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Posted by: steelheart.7386

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For the love of god enough with the druids and menders dragon hunters. There are a million support eles you dont need more then one support most of the time. Every match Im in has 2 or 3 people specced to do very little damage and its a gigantic strain if your on a class like necro they just ignore everyone and come right for the one or two fools actually playing something that does damage. Its all about balance. If your comp is unbalanced unless your facing people signifciantly worse then you they will win every time if they are more balanced. I dont understand why people intnetionally make it hard on themseveles. You should b e using the 90 second start time to tweak things if they need to be tweaked. Ranked is trying to win. You should be doing everything in your power to win.

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Posted by: trunks.5249

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they are useful. i watched an ele that couldn’t do any damage but couldn’t die. know what she did for the full match? she held far permanently. she freed up her other team mates to focus on other 2 points and parts of my team spent the full match trying to just kill the ele. giving her team even more of an advantage

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Posted by: Gwaihir.1745

Gwaihir.1745

Bring a power hitter marauders dh/rev/warrior to force menders off point.

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Posted by: hackks.3687

hackks.3687

Don’t leave your points undefended. The only value to their build is to stall capture or retake of the point, which is predicated on your team not having the point already capped. If you have the point, they can’t take it. So don’t leave it undefended. Problem solved.

You can’t play every match the same way. You have to adjust to your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses.

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Posted by: TheTimelessShadow.2958

TheTimelessShadow.2958

Unfortunately no one is really going to listen. Team comps aren’t going to be fixed so long as we only have solo/duo queue. You’ve just been unlucky getting games where everyone’s a support class.

It’s fun tho turning pesky support into birds and blowing them out of the water.

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Posted by: trunks.5249

trunks.5249

Don’t leave your points undefended. The only value to their build is to stall capture or retake of the point, which is predicated on your team not having the point already capped. If you have the point, they can’t take it. So don’t leave it undefended. Problem solved.

You can’t play every match the same way. You have to adjust to your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses.

sure thats true but you could easily have 2 team mates that do damage go over and kill the people cap it and leave the guy that doesn’t die there to keep it. i have seen people do this in every season. i am no fan of these builds but some people are just excellent at not dieing and are not very good with power builds. it does take skill to do what they do they have to time ever skill right or they could die because something they need is on cd. becouse more time then not they end up on an endless 1v2-3 because the other team wants their home back and just doesnt watch map

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Posted by: hackks.3687

hackks.3687

Don’t leave your points undefended. The only value to their build is to stall capture or retake of the point, which is predicated on your team not having the point already capped. If you have the point, they can’t take it. So don’t leave it undefended. Problem solved.

You can’t play every match the same way. You have to adjust to your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses.

sure thats true but you could easily have 2 team mates that do damage go over and kill the people cap it and leave the guy that doesn’t die there to keep it. i have seen people do this in every season. i am no fan of these builds but some people are just excellent at not dieing and are not very good with power builds. it does take skill to do what they do they have to time ever skill right or they could die because something they need is on cd. becouse more time then not they end up on an endless 1v2-3 because the other team wants their home back and just doesnt watch map

It’s not being bad at playing a damage build. Damage builds require support to be successful. If you’re only solo queuing you don’t know that you’re going to get the support you need. There are a variety of alternatives, and a high sustain build is part of that. They have their weaknesses, too.

There needs to be more than one way to play the game. Just because you don’t like a play style doesn’t mean it’s bad.

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Posted by: Archon.6480

Archon.6480

Hm, I like having two players in some kind of support. Ele + Druid or Engi seems like a nice base to work from. Besides, Menders is more of a bruiser build. I frequently get both top damage and top healing in gold tier (on Druid, that is)

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Posted by: trunks.5249

trunks.5249

Don’t leave your points undefended. The only value to their build is to stall capture or retake of the point, which is predicated on your team not having the point already capped. If you have the point, they can’t take it. So don’t leave it undefended. Problem solved.

You can’t play every match the same way. You have to adjust to your opponent’s strengths and weaknesses.

sure thats true but you could easily have 2 team mates that do damage go over and kill the people cap it and leave the guy that doesn’t die there to keep it. i have seen people do this in every season. i am no fan of these builds but some people are just excellent at not dieing and are not very good with power builds. it does take skill to do what they do they have to time ever skill right or they could die because something they need is on cd. becouse more time then not they end up on an endless 1v2-3 because the other team wants their home back and just doesnt watch map

It’s not being bad at playing a damage build. Damage builds require support to be successful. If you’re only solo queuing you don’t know that you’re going to get the support you need. There are a variety of alternatives, and a high sustain build is part of that. They have their weaknesses, too.

There needs to be more than one way to play the game. Just because you don’t like a play style doesn’t mean it’s bad.

ok i can see your point. however at the end of the day when all is said and done isnt the point to have fun? i mean i will be honest here i hate the meta builds for ranger/druid. not only am i not good at it but it bores the hell out of me. i injoy my trapper druid very much. does it work yep doing well with it. could i do even better with a meta build if i took the time to learn how to use it properly very possible. however i can promise you this i wouldn’t have been able to do the 400+ ranked matches i have been in using it i would have quit pvping or quit game all together out of pure boredom a long time ago

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Posted by: Xillllix.3485

Xillllix.3485

they are useful. i watched an ele that couldn’t do any damage but couldn’t die. know what she did for the full match? she held far permanently. she freed up her other team mates to focus on other 2 points and parts of my team spent the full match trying to just kill the ele. giving her team even more of an advantage

That ele would play something else if something else was viable.

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Posted by: NeXeD.3042

NeXeD.3042

For the love of god enough with the druids and menders dragon hunters. There are a million support eles you dont need more then one support most of the time. Every match Im in has 2 or 3 people specced to do very little damage and its a gigantic strain if your on a class like necro they just ignore everyone and come right for the one or two fools actually playing something that does damage. Its all about balance. If your comp is unbalanced unless your facing people signifciantly worse then you they will win every time if they are more balanced. I dont understand why people intnetionally make it hard on themseveles. You should b e using the 90 second start time to tweak things if they need to be tweaked. Ranked is trying to win. You should be doing everything in your power to win.

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Posted by: Cyprien.4208

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The problem isn’t people are playing support it’s that people are getting paired up with more support than damage.

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Posted by: trunks.5249

trunks.5249

they are useful. i watched an ele that couldn’t do any damage but couldn’t die. know what she did for the full match? she held far permanently. she freed up her other team mates to focus on other 2 points and parts of my team spent the full match trying to just kill the ele. giving her team even more of an advantage

That ele would play something else if something else was viable.

i am sure a lot of them would but i think some injoy feeling like gods. every now and again ill see one say lol lmfao come on guys you can do it having fun with it

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