Guild Wars 2

In solo queue, stop using thief. 95% of thieves are completely worthless and starting a game 4v5 isn’t fun.

You can’t tell people not to play a profession they enjoy. Cry to ANet for it.

But I thought good player could carry their team?? So OP, you are having trouble carrying pro thieves?? But the demi gods said…

Oh well, joke aside though, what Rome said is pretty valid.

Thief is decent too. There’s nothign wrong with 1 thief in a team.

No, having a thief is usually a loss. They suck. Nothing wrong with playing them, but its better to play it in unranked where they have a better chance to win.

style.6173:

No, having a thief is usually a loss. They suck. Nothing wrong with playing them, but its better to play it in unranked where they have a better chance to win.

You just don’t play with good thieves then.

Also, try to be honest with yourself in matches. It’s really easy to just blame everything wrong on the thief player despite usually not being the case…

style.6173:

No, having a thief is usually a loss. They suck. Nothing wrong with playing them, but its better to play it in unranked where they have a better chance to win.

Weird. I won most my matches that has a Thief in my team. You need to adapt your playstyle a bit if you have a Thief though. But since you’re good, you should know that already.

Nocta.5274:

style.6173:

No, having a thief is usually a loss. They suck. Nothing wrong with playing them, but its better to play it in unranked where they have a better chance to win.

You just don’t play with good thieves then.

Also, try to be honest with yourself in matches. It’s really easy to just blame everything wrong on the thief player despite usually not being the case…

As a thief main since day 1 he is right. I don’t understand why people are defending Theives. Thief problem has always been staying alive. In this meta, they are countered by everything. They die super fast. They hit like a wet noodle. They’re as tough as wet paper. Backstab is only 2k damage, sometimes even 1.3k. Heartseeker only does 200 damage. Auto does 120 damage. Shadowshot only 600 dmg. You get one shoted by every class when running Maruder. Condis will kill you regardless if u run escapist absolution, shadow step, etc. Everyone has over 20k hp, and you do the math. Thief does 200 damage to necro and necro does 5k to thief. Thief does 120 damage to engi, engi does 3k to thief. Thief does 1k to Rev, Rev 1 shots thief. Thief is simply NOT viable. They are trash tier and will remain trash tier until Anet does something about it. I for one am glad they did this to thief because I would have never know the power of DH.

And if you think I’m exaggerating those numbers, I’m not. I was running Maruder amulet with scholar runes and even executioner for good measure yet I Heartseek a 40% engi for 200 and I was like “LMFAO”

style.6173:

In solo queue, stop using thief. 95% of thieves are completely worthless and starting a game 4v5 isn’t fun.

How about stop soloquing if you can’t accept the consequences of having no control over who is playing with you?

I no longer answer to people asking me what kind of ele, ranger, necro etc. I am because ppl seldom have a good reaction when I tell them the truth even if I’m on a winning streak with that build.

The problem isn’t people who play what they want, it’s ppl forgetting nobody forced them to push the compete button alone.

Shovel Face.4512:

Nocta.5274:

style.6173:

No, having a thief is usually a loss. They suck. Nothing wrong with playing them, but its better to play it in unranked where they have a better chance to win.

You just don’t play with good thieves then.

Also, try to be honest with yourself in matches. It’s really easy to just blame everything wrong on the thief player despite usually not being the case…

As a thief main since day 1 he is right. I don’t understand why people are defending Theives. Thief problem has always been staying alive. In this meta, they are countered by everything. They die super fast. They hit like a wet noodle. They’re as tough as wet paper. Backstab is only 2k damage, sometimes even 1.3k. Heartseeker only does 200 damage. Auto does 120 damage. Shadowshot only 600 dmg. You get one shoted by every class when running Maruder. Condis will kill you regardless if u run escapist absolution, shadow step, etc. Everyone has over 20k hp, and you do the math. Thief does 200 damage to necro and necro does 5k to thief. Thief does 120 damage to engi, engi does 3k to thief. Thief does 1k to Rev, Rev 1 shots thief. Thief is simply NOT viable. They are trash tier and will remain trash tier until Anet does something about it. I for one am glad they did this to thief because I would have never know the power of DH.

And if you think I’m exaggerating those numbers, I’m not. I was running Maruder amulet with scholar runes and even executioner for good measure yet I Heartseek a 40% engi for 200 and I was like “LMFAO”

Have you been using the “no amulet” amulet?

If you can’t play thief at a sound level; survivability + pulling your own weight to help your allies then I don’t want you as a thief on my team and you’re going to be a liability to us.

Seriously had a handful of games where thief on our team would run head on into enemies and die. That’s it. Just die and zero help anywhere else on the map.

I feel like the teams I get matched up with always have the thief on it that don’t do much for the team as whole… always dying.

Thief is honestly a pure gamble, regardless of their skill. 100% RNG gamble. They seem to do the most in the forest map when they’re grabbing bosses quickly. So if your RL Luck is super high then have at it.

Looks like there are quite a few people who don’t know how to play and play with a thief. If you’re trying to be the decap hero when you have a thief, you’re the problem. Coming into a thread and posting “I’ve played thief since the beginning…” means jack all. You’re probably terrible at it, especially if you’re hitting only 2k back stabs.

Definitely have to adapt with thief. I had 2 games today with a thief and both times trying to open team fight mid we lost. Came back after we just played sides then split them up where thief can really shine.

fact is most thief players are used to one trick pony shots for example i see a lot spamming staff 5 and Bounding Vault evade and as soon i see that i know they just blew 3-5 evades and whack em madly

Things to remember when you have a thief on your team:
1. Don’t AFK on close. Thief will decap far and respawns will be forced to cap home instead of decaping you, so you’re safe with that. Rotate back to home after their respawn has capped his own point.
2. Don’t overrotate. If there’s a 1v1 close and you own the cap, keep fighting mid. Thief will eventually go home and finish it. Don’t do this yourself.
3. If thief hasn’t decaped far, and there is a respawn, rotate back to somewhere where you can watch where that respawn goes.
4. Never let thief be in 4v4 while you “defend” a cap or engage in a 1v1 against something that can’t be +1ed, say scrapper. Let thief decap that scrapper instead.

Rome.3192:

Things to remember when you have a thief on your team:
1. Don’t AFK on close. Thief will decap far and respawns will be forced to cap home instead of decaping you, so you’re safe with that. Rotate back to home after their respawn has capped his own point.
2. Don’t overrotate. If there’s a 1v1 close and you own the cap, keep fighting mid. Thief will eventually go home and finish it. Don’t do this yourself.
3. If thief hasn’t decaped far, and there is a respawn, rotate back to somewhere where you can watch where that respawn goes.
4. Never let thief be in 4v4 while you “defend” a cap or engage in a 1v1 against something that can’t be +1ed, say scrapper. Let thief decap that scrapper instead.

This.

The only reason why I don’t play Thief anymore is because I realized your teammates need to be awesome for the thief role to really shine. And awesome as in win the team fights.

I want to add

1) Avoid to play thief if there are too many dh/scrappers in the other team
2) If you play with a thief in your team, pls dont push far like a kitten every time. Focus on teamfight. Thief will do the decap job.
3) Play thief is hard If Your team mates has the tendence to explode in a fight .