Stronghold: Even worst for PUGS vs Premade
I agree completely! This game mode relies entirely on strategy, so having a complete team gives you a definitive advantage. I have played 7 games, each time I have been paired with randoms (one time with a team of 2). However my opponents have had the following composition ( team of 5-three times, team of 4- twice, team of three- twice)
Out of the 7 games, I have won once merely by pure luck.
This type of game play needs a separate queue for teams vs solo players. I find that it has the potential to be really fun, however that isn’t possible when you are constantly going up against teams. I enjoy being able to sign on and instantly queue for a match, not having to worry about forming a team. A solo queue would definitely make this type of match-style much more enjoyable for those who to play without a team.
Just saying ^.^
If you are joining with people, you should be matched up with others doing the same. If you join solo, you should ONLY be matched against other people who joined solo, simple as that. I don’t understand why this hasn’t been done yet. (maybe because there are not a lot of people playing PvP and it would split the numbers up too much).
Completely agree.
It is also a lot more boring since half of time youre afk running or autoatacking PVE.
It sucks with having noone to talk to.
Especially when so many are new/bad at this. I’ve been so raging in team chat during the matches today. Editing to add how a starting 4v5 became a 3v5. PvP is still just not that fun when this crud happens.
(edited by DeWolfe.2174)
Played a game against Radioactive team.
They were all Sustain Bunker classes and went 100% defensive.
They grabbed every Heroes channel because there’s no counter for it.
In short… no one knew what to do. Lost 80-600
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Played a game against Radioactive team.
They were all Sustain Bunker classes and went 100% defensive.
They grabbed every Heroes channel because there’s no counter for it.In short… no one knew what to do. Lost 80-600
And in another thread, people said defending is too hard. They don’t realize that defending is a very viable strategy.
Already quit PvP. Just log in here and there to troll.
Hmm I guess to maximize pvp interaction, have all 5 teammates defend and deny them from killing lord. You win thru player kills till time run out. IDK just thinking of ways to make this more interesting.
I got on my trap condi ranger and had fun defending. I didn’t enjoy rushing their lord that much tho.
When I was a total noob a couple hours ago, I predicted defense would make this mode more exciting. I’ve been on matches that lasted 2-3 minutes. Those weren’t fun at all. Doesn’t matter if we won because there were little interaction with opponents.
Disagree, Maybe i got lucky 3 times….
Random Pugs (verified after the first time this happened) against a premade team.
Game 1: Barely won
Game 2: Won within the first 3 minutes
Game 3: Won within the first 5 minutes
there were losses in between those games of course and rather oddities.
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i could not disagree more premades cannot spawn camp you like in conquest
Well I have given up on playing it for the day. It wasn’t enjoyable at all with the current match-up system. It just isn’t enjoyable to play…
Hopefully they implement some form of solo-queue of this match-style in the future. Otherwise you are forced to play with a team to stand a chance at winning.
@OP,
Just another shining example of the horrible new matchmaking system. I wonder if the person who created it actually thinks it is good.
The gamemode requires even more coordination than conquest, and yet here I am, pitted against ESL players(your goose is cooked, served..whatever).
This is your typical complain thread about the lack of a soloQmode, not many words needed as the subject has been spoken to death..this is just more a reminder, the new game mode won’t make things easier for pugs..on the contrary
An organized pre-made will always destroy PUGs and newbies regardless of maps.
Seriously.
Well I have given up on playing it for the day. It wasn’t enjoyable at all with the current match-up system. It just isn’t enjoyable to play…
Hopefully they implement some form of solo-queue of this match-style in the future. Otherwise you are forced to play with a team to stand a chance at winning.
Probably is your own problem, cuz I’m having 10 streak wins when Queing Solo?
Well I have given up on playing it for the day. It wasn’t enjoyable at all with the current match-up system. It just isn’t enjoyable to play…
Hopefully they implement some form of solo-queue of this match-style in the future. Otherwise you are forced to play with a team to stand a chance at winning.
Probably is your own problem, cuz I’m having 10 streak wins when Queing Solo?
Well congratulations (despite your overt rudeness). However each time I am on a team of randoms, you may have been fortunate enough to be paired up with teams each time.
However you even admitted that pre-mades have an advantage on every map. This is increased on Stronghold which relies on not only team composition but also roles.
No need to be a jerk, k thanks.
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Especially when so many are new/bad at this. I’ve been so raging in team chat during the matches today. Editing to add how a starting 4v5 became a 3v5. PvP is still just not that fun when this crud happens.
Because what they need to do finally is to punish for leaving games. This has been gone for over half a year. It’s ridiculous, seriously. It’s not that difficult to bring back dishonor or introduce deserter, which would work better imo. You left a game? Okay, you can’t queue up for 30 minutes. You left again within a short period of time? Np, you cannot queue for 45 minutes…This would make people think twice about leaving or make them not be able to queue up. Obviously they would have to increase grace period a bit for DC’s.
well the plus to this is, premades will use stronghold as its most fun playing with a team against a team via that game mode. This will make conquest more pug friendly and a place for solo Qs. I personally think its a good thing, maybe more people will form teams and strategies for stronghold and provide competition to those who are seeking it.
well the plus to this is, premades will use stronghold as its most fun playing with a team against a team via that game mode. This will make conquest more pug friendly and a place for solo Qs. I personally think its a good thing, maybe more people will form teams and strategies for stronghold and provide competition to those who are seeking it.
You do realize they’re planning on putting conquest and SH into the same queue, right?
You do realize they’re planning on putting conquest and SH into the same queue, right?
I really hope they reconsider this move. Lumping them into the same queue is just going to cause frustration.
Sadly I will have to agree with this. My team played stronghold for a laugh for the first time, none of us have ever played the gamemode before, and we won 3 games right off until we came up against another team who speed rushed lord.
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terrible game mode here you need only full dmg thief/ranger team and other will go with npc to lord game over