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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Okay everyone!
Supcutie’s Comprehensive PvP Shatter Guide Version 2.20 is out! (Updated 12/17/14)

http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easier link)
http://bit.ly/mesmerguide

Here is a newer video vs. Abjured that has some good positioning/team play if you guys are interested: http://bit.ly/vsabjured

Includes a changelog this time – Mostly minor stuff but updated the build to what I am running in tournaments now!
By the way, the changelog is really bad, mostly just a copy paste of my rough notes, and I didn’t include a few things. The changelog will improve over time as I make my notes better as I go along :P

For those that don’t know, it is a guide about Shatter in sPvP and tPvP.
It has tips for Greatsword/Sword-Focus as well as Greatsword/Staff. The build I run competitively on Mesmer now is: http://bit.ly/staffshatter4

In addition to the guide, I have a few videos you should check out. Everything is linked in the guide but I will just link it here so you have the whole repository.

Shatter Vs. Shatter “Honorable” Greatsword/Sword-Focus walkthrough http://bit.ly/shattervs

Blink locations for the different maps (Some of these are slightly outdated, but like 95% still work):
http://bit.ly/blinklocations

Phase Retreat Locations:
http://bit.ly/phaselocations
This is a Work in Progress since I only have Kyhlo. Also I noticed the Phase spot going into clocktower from Windmill side is now broken and doesn’t work.
Also I should say, the Phase Retreat locations into Clocktower have been nerfed. So if you try them and they don’t work that’s why!

Hope you enjoy!

Also please leave me any feedback!
I plan to add a few things still, and I’ll post on my Twitter when I release updates.
twitter.com/HansOnsum

Checkout my Twitch as I stream as well and it always has my most updated builds: http://www.twitch.tv/hansawesome

Also I am now offering paid services, check out the services section in the guide or on my Twitch!

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
Mega link: http://bit.ly/mesmerguide

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Posted by: Amaterasu.6280

Amaterasu.6280

Free bump for the buddy supcutie.

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Posted by: fugazi.5139

fugazi.5139

I will be checking this out.

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Posted by: cymerdown.4103

cymerdown.4103

Geez, the shatter vs shatter video is the most in-depth gameplay breakdown I’ve ever seen. If you make it a full series, it will be quite the collection for upcoming Mesmers. Pretty awesome work so far, very nice.

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Posted by: Willson.8170

Willson.8170

Dude, this is the greatest guide every created
BEHOLD THE BIBLE FOR ALL MESMERS

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Posted by: Writetyper.1985

Writetyper.1985

This is amazing, shame no amount of guide will make my atrocious mesmer play any better. That shatter vs shatter video for a start is so detailed, and it’s an hour and a half long, kitten . Keep it up supcutie.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

very good guide – finally a guide how a guide should be and not a stand alone video

thx for this

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Posted by: lollasaurus.1457

lollasaurus.1457

Only 30 minutes in but very comprehensive so far, thanks for putting this together!

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Posted by: Sabastian.7126

Sabastian.7126

great guide. thank you

love this note at the end:

Be nice! Everyone has something to offer. Don’t burn bridges for your ego. You’ll be surprised how far being nice and good gets you.
? Check yourself! Don’t become an example of the Dunning Kruger Effect.

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

Zirith.6429

tldr, 63 page pdf? More like a manual :P, if you want the people that will actually benefit from your work to read it you will have to cut it down to like 15 pages max, all of the play by play that you used as a script(?) should just be referenced by time stamps in your video.

You definitely need to summarize this quite a bit more before most people will actually read it.

Also that table of contents is killing my soul, please fix (you make headers and link them to the referenced pages and the dots are made automatically).

In terms of the guide, I cannot recommend zxc as utils because I have been doing it since beta and it is a terrible habit >.<. The quick tips page needs headers or dividers because right now it is an unreadable wall of text. Also all the good stuff like points about matchups and skill rotation / combos should be at the top and all the useless garbage that is already presented at the start in the quick overview like spec gear etc should be at the end in an appendix (because no one really needs the reasoning for the selection shoved in their face because most of it is pretty obvious).

I never thought i would be “technical reporterizing” a mesmer guide lol

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Posted by: Ugruk.4069

Ugruk.4069

Thanks man, this guide inspired me to roll a warrior.

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Posted by: felivear.1536

felivear.1536

Thanks man, this guide inspired me to roll a warrior.

This is now my favorite post on the forums. Thank you.

feLIVEar: Your resident forum king.

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

Mega doesn’t support older browsers (at all). Is there a version of this anywhere else?

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Hey thanks for all of the support! @Zirith, yeah I admit I am terrible at formatting, that will be one of the things I improve as I update it. @Thedenofsin, here is a backup link: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
Mega link: http://bit.ly/mesmerguide

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Posted by: Coulter.2315

Coulter.2315

Really nice job Supcutie, always nice to see effort and work done for the community.

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Posted by: Harbinger.8637

Harbinger.8637

I commend you for this. I can tell a lot of work went into it. Need more people releasing guides such as this.

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Posted by: Josh Davis.6015

Josh Davis.6015

This is the most comprehensive profession guide I’ve ever seen. I didn’t realize you were taking that many notes when I was teaching you how to play.

:)

Great work!

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Posted by: Shananigans.8412

Shananigans.8412

Atta boy cutie!

Shananigans- Team Absolute Legends
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Posted by: Follidus.8027

Follidus.8027

Atta boy cutie!

Cause I ain’t perfect, I never said I was.
But now they’re hating cause a brotha finally got some buzz
www.twitch.tv/Follidus – Team Absolute Legends

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Posted by: Shananigans.8412

Shananigans.8412

ATTA BOY CUTIE!

Shananigans- Team Absolute Legends
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Posted by: popaz.1524

popaz.1524

Wow!! That is the most in-depth guide ever created, sick!!! Thanks alot man.

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Posted by: Malcastus.6240

Malcastus.6240

Adder boy Q-tea

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Posted by: Acandis.3250

Acandis.3250

This is the most comprehensive profession guide I’ve ever seen. I didn’t realize you were taking that many notes when I was teaching you how to play.

:)

Great work!

That explains why he’s always mopping the floor; takes after you, Grouch!

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Posted by: Zina.2087

Zina.2087

Best Mes Guide NA. Thank you. :P

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Yo BTW, updated the build links in the guide, apparently intothemists changed the trait numbers in the illusion tree because of the Dec. 10 patch I think, so it changed from Illusionary Invigoration to Dazzling Glamours, which is not what we want! So yeah now it’s back to normal

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Also, Fay and Pyro have a Mesmer website where they put my guide! It makes access a lot easier, I’ll put it in my signature too. Of course if you want the download the other link will still be there as well.
http://mesmerguides.com/supcutie.html

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
Mega link: http://bit.ly/mesmerguide

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Posted by: Solstice.1097

Solstice.1097

In the link I think you meant to choose Illusionary Invigoration trait, not Dazzling Glamours??

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Alrighty everyone another update! I added an addendum to the bottom of the guide. Basically everything in the guide is still relevant but I’m using two new builds for Team queue in hopes of being viable. One is sword/torch GS with Halting Strike. Other is the older Staff Halting Strike Shatter spec. They are both linked and discussed in the addendum section. The addendum section also is hyperlinked within the document just as the other sections in the table of contents. The addendum section will be good for the guide so people can constantly check back and see what I’m up to.

In addition to that I also added some notes under Ether Feast about when to heal. There are a few other random changes as well, but check it out! (Including a secret you might want to find in the guide!!!)

http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
Mega link: http://bit.ly/mesmerguide

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Posted by: degoking.1482

degoking.1482

This guide made me interested in trying Mesmer. Just wanted to bump this and say wow what a great guide.

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

Read this through. Great stuff, supcutie. If only this profession were still viable in tPvP, this would be really applicable.

:-)

:-(

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Posted by: Zoose.1640

Zoose.1640

You should rename this to the Comprehensive Bible for Mesmers!@

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Posted by: Curunen.8729

Curunen.8729

You should rename this to the Comprehensive Bible for Mesmers!@

Haha, yeah tips in there for everyone, no matter the build.

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Okay guys, Version 2 is out! Check the original post for details!
If you think I have earned it, consider voting for me as a North American All-Star for Gamescom! I’m on page 2
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/allstarsvote

Thanks for the support everyone!

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
Mega link: http://bit.ly/mesmerguide

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Posted by: YourFriendMarvin.4127

YourFriendMarvin.4127

Should check this guide out, it explains Shatter Mesmer well!

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Posted by: BlackBeard.2873

BlackBeard.2873

This is absolutely excellent info. Your blink location guide was helpful for me as an ele, and the shatter guide helps me fight mesmers (as well as improve my own mesmer gameplay, which is still fledgling at best).

We need to get this added to an official list of guides!

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Posted by: utmastuh.6985

utmastuh.6985

I’ll vote for you to be an allstar if you bring your mesmer and not your thief. I like seeing quality mesmer play.

As a scrub I mainly stick with PU builds for spvp. You can mindlessly stack condis on opponents while hiding in stealth and stacking boons on yourself. Scepter/torch and staff are my weapons of choice but I would definitely agree with GS/Staff for shatter or phantasm power builds. The illusionary warlock hits hard.

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Posted by: Zell.1542

Zell.1542

if you play mesmer you basically need to read this guide so you don’t get destroyed by every single class in the game. the guide also helps with any other class as you can see how easy of a time you have doing just about anything in comparison, great read supcutie has my vote for gamescom as well as president

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

Zirith.6429

The longest guide ever just got longer! Also you had a typo in the forza section and capricorn isnt a map anymore. I wonder if anyone has ever pulled off a focus 4 swap blink gs 5 half sec before focus 4 auto pulls into a full mindwrack on like 3+ stacked people. I usually just cheat and do a gs 2 clone shatter on ressers.

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Thanks for the support guys!
Fixed those errors Zirith

Also yeah I’ve done that before Zirith, you don’t need to GS 5 though since the enemies are immobed and primed for the Shatter. I would just save it for actual interrupts.

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

Zirith.6429

Oh I meant like there are people all over the point and you get them into pull range with the gs5, say like they are spread over 2/3 of the graveyard point :P Just thinking that would be like a tourney highlight play if someone were to suckup all 4 people in a teamfight in a second and hit them with a x4 mindwrack. Im just daydreaming at this point, havent been able to play for a month.

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Ah I see. Yeah I think the only way that would work is if you were out of combat, laid down the curtain, swapped GS, pushed, then swapped back to focus to pull the rest. I’ve done that against one person on skyhammer to knock them off the edge, but never in a team fight

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

Zirith.6429

Does curtain not pull if u wait a couple seconds for it to run out? Initially I thought about needing to be ooc but if u let it sit and hit people with the gs5 before it expires then they wouldnt be able to dodge it o.O (thought that up as I wrote it)

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Naw if you don’t actively use the pull ability it won’t pull and will just disappear.

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Posted by: Zirith.6429

Zirith.6429

Thought it did but I guess people were just casting it near the end of duration, I’ve pretty much always done a 4 5 4 asap so never actually tested the end of duration thing. Still though, I’m definitely going to try it while ooc

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Posted by: Supcutie.2538

Supcutie.2538

Alright boys! Guide has been updated for newest feature patch! (Content is up to date for 9/25/2014)
Version is 2.10

My Guide: http://bit.ly/SupcutieGuide (Easy link)
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Posted by: Muffins.1835

Muffins.1835

Dude this guide changed my life. 10/10 would read again.

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Posted by: cymerdown.4103

cymerdown.4103

Agree, it was gr8 m8. My mesmer will start off on a fresh sl8, guess it was f8. I r8 8/8 cya I’m about to go on a d8 can’t be l8 don’t h8.

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Posted by: Brigg.6189

Brigg.6189

For places in range of thief shortbow, are blink spots the same between mesmer and thief?

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Posted by: YourFriendMarvin.4127

YourFriendMarvin.4127

Agree, it was gr8 m8. My mesmer will start off on a fresh sl8, guess it was f8. I r8 8/8 cya I’m about to go on a d8 can’t be l8 don’t h8.

Kensuda spittin’ dem bars~~

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Posted by: Zoose.1640

Zoose.1640

69/69 m8

even my mesmer is now halfway-decent because of supcutie _