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Posted by: Akachi.1352

Akachi.1352

Personally I don’t think MMR is the sole reason for massive losing streaks, in SoloQ. I think it’s partly down to team comp as well. Obviously if you queue as a team you can select the perfect comp, to get the most balanced play. However in SoloQ, you are at the mercy of chance, and could be partied against a team that had the perfect comp while you have 4 warriors + 1 DH. You will obviously lose that March up. Something should be done to limit the number of a certain profession or team in SoloQ.

Obviously MME does have something to do with losing streaks, but these two are tightly linked, I.e. get rubbish comp -> lose match -> MMR drops -> etc.

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Posted by: Akachi.1352

Akachi.1352

Also, please no Hurr Durr….get team pve scrub hurr durr

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Posted by: Silverstone.4539

Silverstone.4539

at this point .. who the kitten care! I think what is kittening me off more now than anything (and there is a lot) is the fact the Anet team have not said a word, not a peep about what’s going on.

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Posted by: Thel.9087

Thel.9087

Reality is: – Pres are still farming your kitten , because they can’t do stuff alone (solo q which can also include amber boosted/carried in higher division, talking about ruby+ here)
- Loses are mostly due to feeders (instant dying even with auramancer and such), throws (less but still) because of mid zerging or another point (still few diamond guys like that crying for it, pathetic), and the remaining few close games.
- Gaining MMR for winning, not from your individual stats, number of deaths etc… so obviously division doesn’t necessarily reflect your skill even this season.

There are no 36k reasons for that, I’m just being realist.

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Posted by: Silverstone.4539

Silverstone.4539

its imposable! win 1, lose 4, win 2, lose 1, win 1, lose 1, win 1 ,lose 8, win 2, lose 4, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 2, win 2 , lose 2, win 1 lose 3, win 2 lose 5. and so on and so on. been in the same tire for days. all solo.

But there is no solo Q, we are in with all the other premades, who the hell thought this was a good idea?

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Posted by: Thel.9087

Thel.9087

its imposable! win 1, lose 4, win 2, lose 1, win 1, lose 1, win 1 ,lose 8, win 2, lose 4, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 2, win 2 , lose 2, win 1 lose 3, win 2 lose 5. and so on and so on. been in the same tire for days. all solo.

But there is no solo Q, we are in with all the other premades, who the hell thought this was a good idea?

Grinding skills, not individual skills

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Posted by: Silverstone.4539

Silverstone.4539

its imposable! win 1, lose 4, win 2, lose 1, win 1, lose 1, win 1 ,lose 8, win 2, lose 4, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 2, win 2 , lose 2, win 1 lose 3, win 2 lose 5. and so on and so on. been in the same tire for days. all solo.

But there is no solo Q, we are in with all the other premades, who the hell thought this was a good idea?

Grinding skills, not individual skills

skill?! what do you know of skill? is it a skill to not be afk? or to bad mouth your team, or to give up when the other team is only 80 in the lead. skill has nothing to do with it. it’s the hopeless situation that has soo many players demoralized that they take it out on each other, their own team. A lot should not even be playing Ranked games with the way they play, but they do.

no, it’s luck of the draw if you solo Q

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

its imposable! win 1, lose 4, win 2, lose 1, win 1, lose 1, win 1 ,lose 8, win 2, lose 4, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 2, win 2 , lose 2, win 1 lose 3, win 2 lose 5. and so on and so on. been in the same tire for days. all solo.

But there is no solo Q, we are in with all the other premades, who the hell thought this was a good idea?

Some would say you are where you should be. I’m more in the camp of the system and bad team composition. Is more to blame than player skill. When you soloQ and you end up against 5 soloQ’s and they have the better or Meta team comp, you’ve normally lost before you trade blows. I always go into a fight to win, and just hope the other team is not as skilled, or makes more mistakes than mine. But normally the team composition is the deciding factor. At this point of the league most if not all players know it. I was in a match and as soon as my team saw the comp of the other team 2 said, that’s it we’ve lost. the other team was way better than ours, in composition and pure skill.

On the other hand it can just be the people you are partied with. Like that one player who rushes lord right from the word go, or go’s and kills a trebuchet that no one is using and take there time about it, or that one person who pushes far and die’s with in seconds and keeps doing the same thing for the whole match, no matter how much you ask them to stop, or just the teams that go off and do there own thing all match.

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Posted by: Uete.3805

Uete.3805

Team composition depends entirely on the players. I find myself constantly re-rolling at the beginning of the match when I see that we are 4 necros or something like that. People are just too lazy to change chars. My point being that composition is not random, you can always do something about it.

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Posted by: BrotherBelial.3094

BrotherBelial.3094

Team composition depends entirely on the players. I find myself constantly re-rolling at the beginning of the match when I see that we are 4 necros or something like that. People are just too lazy to change chars. My point being that composition is not random, you can always do something about it.

Not everyone has/or is good with every class. Also people shouldn’t have to do anything about it, if it was a good balanced system.

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Posted by: Fivedawgs.4267

Fivedawgs.4267

Personally I don’t think MMR is the sole reason for massive losing streaks, in SoloQ. I think it’s partly down to team comp as well. Obviously if you queue as a team you can select the perfect comp, to get the most balanced play. However in SoloQ, you are at the mercy of chance, and could be partied against a team that had the perfect comp while you have 4 warriors + 1 DH. You will obviously lose that March up. Something should be done to limit the number of a certain profession or team in SoloQ.

Obviously MME does have something to do with losing streaks, but these two are tightly linked, I.e. get rubbish comp -> lose match -> MMR drops -> etc.

Although true, but the party comp argument doesn’t hold enough weight since they system allow you to switch toons.

I agree with evrything you said since I mean warrior. Hence why, I keep on telling people HIGH MMR doesn’t always equate to skill. An average skilled rev, as it stand, can have a better MMR than me.

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Posted by: Rolisteel.1375

Rolisteel.1375

Too bad this season is again not about skill. Its a lets grind to highest division with premade elite groups and let solo players suffer it doesn’t matter if solo player is not skilled or high skilled both will suffer if they really play solo. This is where the pvp system fails in this game, the pvp system doesn’t allow you to get highest levels without premade and that losing streaks and a beginner bot like teammates at Ruby Division against skilled enemy team.. If it continues i think a lot of player will stop PvP soon or even leave GW2.