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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

This is just a coin toss in the air:
Sometimes I’m in a fight which I will win so easily or lose so certainly I wonder why my or the opponents team won’t just surrender.

Now of course we don’t want surrendering to be a casual thing, so there must be some criteria. Lets say that the option to /gg becomes available in pvp once the following conditions have been met:

  1. The opponents team has more than double your points, or the gap is larger than 150 points
  2. your team has a member which is offline or hasn’t left the spawn point in over 1 minute
  3. more than 7 minutes of play time has passed

(please, I don’t want this to turn into a flamewar of opinions, its just a coin toss and I want to have a civil conversation about it)

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Posted by: Prince Vingador.8067

Prince Vingador.8067

I really approve

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Posted by: Tiefsee.3647

Tiefsee.3647

If you want to surrender, just let the other team control 3 points and jump into their attacks for +5 points, that makes the game extremly quick and that’s basically a surrender!

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Posted by: abaddon.3290

abaddon.3290

ive had games where we most certaintly were going to lose. we had a comp disadvantage we were being outplayed hard our entire team wiping. as the game went on we start forcing them to split up which would allow us to outrotate them and end up winning by very few points. we were a solid 200 points behind. this has happened so many times i cant even count it. and is the reason i vote no for a surrender option. ive also won several games with a teammate dced. some of them were complete faceroll.

im bad at sarcasm

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Posted by: duster.7013

duster.7013

lol 150 wouldnt work. That’s a meta match mess up. It would need to be 250.

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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

OlrunTheBlade.1486

If the match isn’t over at or very soon after 7 minutes, you’re not getting stomped to begin with. It’s just not worth the dev time.

Captain of Never Lucky [NL]
Competitive Warrior, Ele, Mesmer, Ranger, Engineer, Thief

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Posted by: ades.1386

ades.1386

This is just a coin toss in the air:
Sometimes I’m in a fight which I will win so easily or lose so certainly I wonder why my or the opponents team won’t just surrender.

Now of course we don’t want surrendering to be a casual thing, so there must be some criteria. Lets say that the option to /gg becomes available in pvp once the following conditions have been met:

  1. The opponents team has more than double your points, or the gap is larger than 150 points
  2. your team has a member which is offline or hasn’t left the spawn point in over 1 minute
  3. more than 7 minutes of play time has passed

(please, I don’t want this to turn into a flamewar of opinions, its just a coin toss and I want to have a civil conversation about it)

I would add in if x amount (2-3) teamates has zero points by 5 minutes in you can surrender, overall i really like this idea!

Crystal Desert

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Posted by: Ragion.2831

Ragion.2831

People have been asking for a surrender button for the longest time, instead of doing it they give us that ridiculous box that shows the players faces which blocks your entire screen..

Last thing we needed was one another pop up screen in addition to the one that was already there. A pain in the a** in server rooms when there are still fights happening after the match ends

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Posted by: Moonsinn.5382

Moonsinn.5382

I would support this with a 3-vote minimum requirement. I’ve seen hardcore comebacks, and I don’t want quitters surrendering the game when there still is a chance. Maybe more than 200 point difference, and opponent has more than 350 points.

Aethelweard Rex – Guard
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Aelius Swift – Warrior

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Posted by: abaddon.3290

abaddon.3290

I would support this with a 3-vote minimum requirement. I’ve seen hardcore comebacks, and I don’t want quitters surrendering the game when there still is a chance. Maybe more than 200 point difference, and opponent has more than 350 points.

as with all of this all we would see is members surrendering and afking from the start. doesnt matter what limitations you put on it. it would be negative.

im bad at sarcasm

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

kdaddy.5431

How about no

Why is everyone looking for a way to quit a game.

If your matches are getting so bad ask Anet to fix there Match Making.

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Posted by: Tiefsee.3647

Tiefsee.3647

How about no

Why is everyone looking for a way to quit a game.

If your matches are getting so bad ask Anet to fix there Match Making.

Because 50% of the people always lose – no matter what – therefore some of those 50% are salty because it isn’t their fault that they lose and therefore just want to restart a new game with new team, because then they hope they won’t be the 50% loosing (and in case they are, just quit until they win)

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Posted by: Twigifire.8379

Twigifire.8379

There isn’t a need for a surrender button like with other games because these matches only last 15 minutes maximum. People should really just keep trying because with the way conquest works you can easily make a comeback. If it’s just a huge skill gap between teams then you should lose in under 10 minutes anyway.

And if people are expecting to win 80%+ of their matches then you need to stay out of pvp. People who actually believe they cannot win a match because of the 50% matchmaking are jokers who are mostly average players suffering from the dunning-kruger effect.

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Posted by: kdaddy.5431

kdaddy.5431

How about no

Why is everyone looking for a way to quit a game.

If your matches are getting so bad ask Anet to fix there Match Making.

Because 50% of the people always lose – no matter what – therefore some of those 50% are salty because it isn’t their fault that they lose and therefore just want to restart a new game with new team, because then they hope they won’t be the 50% loosing (and in case they are, just quit until they win)

We all know that no matter what Anet puts out people will cry.

What Anet should of done S1 of leagues, could help other peoples case that they cry to much.

1) Skill based Leagues
Instead they throw a Back Piece where everyone wants a equal chance for it.

2) Skill based Leader Board
Boom!

This is all Anet needed to do and all these people crying for a surrender button we could just say L2P but that goes against all Anets view on casual play.

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Posted by: Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

Xanctus The Dragonslayer.2318

all members need to concede. that is the only way I will accept a concede mechanic in the game. Also I hope a-net finds a way to actually properly tally reports of match manipulation since this opens the possibility of the enemy team attempting to bribe the opposing team in conceding.

I tend to agree with k-daddy. Conceding is something that should be implemented if truly everything fails a-net can do to fix matchmaking.

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Posted by: Amaimon.7823

Amaimon.7823

all members need to concede. that is the only way I will accept a concede mechanic in the game. Also I hope a-net finds a way to actually properly tally reports of match manipulation since this opens the possibility of the enemy team attempting to bribe the opposing team in conceding.

I tend to agree with k-daddy. Conceding is something that should be implemented if truly everything fails a-net can do to fix matchmaking.

Naturally, one player should never have such power.
but if a player hasn’t left base or stands still for over 30 seconds, maybe they should get a debuff or something so their vote won’t count in the group vote