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Posted by: Rarnark.5623

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Does anybody else think this build is grossly overpowered and lame?

Why does this exist?

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Posted by: Lighter.5631

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sorry but condition warriors are sh—.

i would rather just run zerker amulet with sword and be done with

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Posted by: Zenith.7301

Zenith.7301

Does anybody else think this build is grossly overpowered and lame?

Why does this exist?

It’s kind of a gimmick spec. It doesn’t have the sustained condi application of other classes like necro or engineer, but it frontloads condition stacks quickly with a couple of skills, and the base damage of the weapons themselves is still high.

It may feel too strong if you’re not a class with strong condi cleanse, but I don’t think it’s the most exaggerated of the warrior builds.

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Posted by: Dirame.8521

Dirame.8521

Nope, this build is not even OP when I play a class without much condition removal. You should try playing the build yourself. I personally get frustrated by how slow it is.

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

it is not overpowered at all.

it is useful against people who do not bother to bring condition removal skills.

not very useful against people who are loaded with condition removal skills.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

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It’s pretty ridiculous against classes not running many condi-clears who depend on teammates like guardian..

Condi Duel build Warrior makes me cry every time.
Zero skill required hit a couple of buttons Maybe Ranged torment Maybe do a flurry wait out the dodges Weaponswitch
LONGBOW
MUH
FUGIN
5
FIRE FIELD 5k crit Exploding Arrow gg

Oh and if you can frontload a 16 bleed stack with a necro to signet of spite>Epidemic it in a team fight? Full condies +17 bleeds on 2 guys at least gg.

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Posted by: DanyK.3842

DanyK.3842

5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

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5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P

It’s happend to me.. okay maybe not 5k
3-4k~ crits.. All the time. As a Shatter mesmer it hurts.

I don’t know if he was running Rampager’s amulet, but the damage on arcing arrow is getting nerfed for a reason.

Still basically invulnerable while the Damage ticks with sheild stance or endure pain/zerkstance.

Edit; My mistake it’s Combustive Shot that’s getting nerfed.. Anet y u bad at balance… nerf the 4k arrow crits.. :/

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Posted by: DanyK.3842

DanyK.3842

5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P

It’s happend to me.. okay maybe not 5k
3-4k~ crits.. All the time. As a Shatter mesmer it hurts.

I don’t know if he was running Rampager’s amulet, but the damage on arcing arrow is getting nerfed for a reason.

Still basically invulnerable while the Damage ticks with sheild stance or endure pain/zerkstance.

Edit; My mistake it’s Combustive Shot that’s getting nerfed.. Anet y u bad at balance… nerf the 4k arrow crits.. :/

It is a very easy skill to dodge, unlike an illusionary leap + blurred frenzy combo from stealth.

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Posted by: Scoobaniec.9561

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5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P

It’s happend to me.. okay maybe not 5k
3-4k~ crits.. All the time. As a Shatter mesmer it hurts.

I don’t know if he was running Rampager’s amulet, but the damage on arcing arrow is getting nerfed for a reason.

Still basically invulnerable while the Damage ticks with sheild stance or endure pain/zerkstance.

Edit; My mistake it’s Combustive Shot that’s getting nerfed.. Anet y u bad at balance… nerf the 4k arrow crits.. :/

Nerf shatter, i don’t want some s…t following me for half map bc someone pressed one button.

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Posted by: Archaon.6245

Archaon.6245

5k Arcing Arrow on a condi build? You should try playing with armor on. :P

It’s happend to me.. okay maybe not 5k
3-4k~ crits.. All the time. As a Shatter mesmer it hurts.

I don’t know if he was running Rampager’s amulet, but the damage on arcing arrow is getting nerfed for a reason.

Still basically invulnerable while the Damage ticks with sheild stance or endure pain/zerkstance.

Edit; My mistake it’s Combustive Shot that’s getting nerfed.. Anet y u bad at balance… nerf the 4k arrow crits.. :/

Nerf shatter, i don’t want some s…t following me for half map bc someone pressed one button.

Are you talking bout ranger’s pets? Because you know…shatter mesmer’s clones/phantasms are meant to…well…being shattered, and they go nowhere near to half map even if you leave them on for some reason..

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

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Already been talked about. When every one was complaining about hammer, some of us said “wait til you see duel sword condi.”

They only stack bleed/torment..maybe poison if they run doom..not hard to cleanse. Their strength is that their condi cleanse, is their major condi stack. Get used to it. You all wanted hammered nerfed..your now facing the reaction to that up coming nerf.

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Posted by: CntrlAltDefeat.1465

CntrlAltDefeat.1465

It’s pretty ridiculous against classes not running many condi-clears who depend on teammates like guardian..

Condi Duel build Warrior makes me cry every time.
Zero skill required hit a couple of buttons Maybe Ranged torment Maybe do a flurry wait out the dodges Weaponswitch
LONGBOW
MUH
FUGIN
5
FIRE FIELD 5k crit Exploding Arrow gg

Oh and if you can frontload a 16 bleed stack with a necro to signet of spite>Epidemic it in a team fight? Full condies +17 bleeds on 2 guys at least gg.

Not everyone is after skillful..they just want wins.

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Posted by: Rarnark.5623

Rarnark.5623

It’s pretty ridiculous against classes not running many condi-clears who depend on teammates like guardian..

Condi Duel build Warrior makes me cry every time.
Zero skill required hit a couple of buttons Maybe Ranged torment Maybe do a flurry wait out the dodges Weaponswitch
LONGBOW
MUH
FUGIN
5
FIRE FIELD 5k crit Exploding Arrow gg

Oh and if you can frontload a 16 bleed stack with a necro to signet of spite>Epidemic it in a team fight? Full condies +17 bleeds on 2 guys at least gg.

I laughed irl.

There are sometimes I honestly feel like this game would be much better without condition damage amulets. I just don’t think conditions are fun. I can’t even roll condition builds because I find them so boring.

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

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The skill ceiling on condi warriors is probably the lowest of any build in the game (including spirits). I find it impossible to differentiate myself from any other condi warrior running that build in regards to rotation.

For me that’s a huge negative, and prevents the build from achieving godlike status, unless you could incorporate significant support mechanics to a build.


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Posted by: CachoDm.4639

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Already been talked about. When every one was complaining about hammer, some of us said “wait til you see duel sword condi.”

They only stack bleed/torment..maybe poison if they run doom..not hard to cleanse. Their strength is that their condi cleanse, is their major condi stack. Get used to it. You all wanted hammered nerfed..your now facing the reaction to that up coming nerf.

Not like my 10/30/30 ele will care roflolmao

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Posted by: jmatb.6307

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Ya condi being strong 1v1 is about to be history with the combination of AR Engi, Diamond Skin Ele, and Warrior Cleansing Ire/Zerker Stance.

If someone runs condi builds I think it’s only gonna be good in team fights at higher tier play. At lower tier, you can run whatever you want though because people run the goofiest stuff there.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

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Shatter mesmer much harder to play when these things are around; I either stick to my guard or necro .. or have to Massinvis and lose a point.

Also dodging iLeap > Frenzy from stealth is probably the easiest thing for me personally.. you see the clone leaping out at you lol.. unless he’s pointblank range you’re gtg.

Shatter clones follow about 900 feet so if you’re running in a straight line and do a small leap skill you’re going to never be caught..

Skills like Longbow 5 and pistol 5 (Mesmer) are basically undodgeable.. and might need to be changed slightly.

Maybe having 6 bleeds on one skill is a bad idea, maybe?.. maybe having 8 bleeds on one other skill is a bad idea..

Condie warriors would not be so strong if they didn’t have healsignet zerk stance endure pain and maybe shield stance (based on offhand choices)

Proves for a very non-glass glass condie bomber.. very strong in duos too with a class that can cover the bleeds with useless conditions, like an engi or an necro.

I think Epidemic necros will come back in a big way with condi warriors rotating into the meta.

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Posted by: mini.6018

mini.6018

Hahaha not even december 10th nerfhammer(they hit the hammer with the nerf hammer,funny) and already looking for other things to qq.Warriors condi is not bad but must be 4th or 5th in line under the real condi masters in this game.Yeah so Op lolol.

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Posted by: Kharr.5746

Kharr.5746

There’s a particular version of this setup that is quite OP, but I don’t see it used at all in the top 1k in team/soloQ so we’ll have to wait and see if it catches on after hammer gets nerfed a bit.

The general rule is, “it’s not OP if it’s not popular”

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Posted by: redslion.9675

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There’s a particular version of this setup that is quite OP, but I don’t see it used at all in the top 1k in team/soloQ so we’ll have to wait and see if it catches on after hammer gets nerfed a bit.

The general rule is, “it’s not OP if it’s not popular”

Well, maybe it’s just one of those builds that are pretty strong in 1v1, but less performing in tournament.

Example: condi wars are single target, when warriors have usually been picked for cleaving.

And IMHO condi gameplay with warriors is ugly. And pretty boring. I have much more fun with a GS.

You will never be able to know what an engineer is going to do next…

because he doesn’t know it himself