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Posted by: Vaught.5198

Vaught.5198

Hello all,

after a very long time of not really being all that interested in warriors for all kinds of reasons namely over representation, gimmicky and a being bit too 2-dimensional

I have considered a conditional approach to the tpvp warrior.

I love the iconic look of a sword and shield and its something I have lacked thus far in gw2.

I want to avoid using the rifle and the longbow matches quite well with the visual setup i want.

I have considered a few builds but this is the one i liked the look of, a sort of hybrid.

lmk what you think and if you have any pointers, in fact im completely new to playing warriors so i will take all criticism on board.

Also if anyone would like to give me the lowdown on conditional warrior in pvp at the moment that would be brilliant, ive not seen too many ( doesnt bode well!) but im willing to go with this for a bit.

Here is the build:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseTjkOpwxQuQ4QCCkirUlzjksEyrKMnUBxA-TsAgyCqI4SxljLDXSus1MqYVxECA

Remember this is alpha beta version zero point one.

Cheers!

Edited: Changed 2 things on build.

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Posted by: Vincu.2865

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Just go brainless hambow j/k, if you are willing to make warrior with sword in a hand it definitely should be a condition one but in my opinion, current hambow build just kicks off everything other so I would reccomend you to abuse it as long as possible

About a build: If you are going for a condition spammer, change scholar to some other runes. I am also pretty sure that mending is much worse than current healing signet ,which you should definitely put in every warrior build. I am also pretty sure that shield as an off-hand is worse than a sword, since I’ve seen many good condition warriors running like s/s|longbow. For some more tips about traits, you should wait for someone more experienced than me gl!

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Posted by: Vaught.5198

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hey thanks for the speedy feedback, im really aware of the power of the hambow but its just not my cup of tea… I just dont get much reward out of a playstyle like that regardless of the points on the screen.

i have definitely toyed with the idea of sword/sword, if that was the case id swap shield mastery for dogged march… still though, the warrior shield is a great piece of kit, gap closer, stun, block, its nice for setting up a sword burst or dropping bow field. and currently the only interrupt on the bar.

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Posted by: Vincu.2865

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Well, you could also change carrion to rabid, I think it works better as well (more crits = more bleeds). Shield was always pretty nice but due to currect healing signet and lower cd on endure pain (90 to 60) warriors are half-importal and hard to burst :p shield is not such a must be as it used to be

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Posted by: Vaught.5198

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hmm.. due to the trait setup the build runs permanent fury due to sword 1, sword 2, sword burst, bow 5 and so its sitting at 50% crit 100% of the time.
due to the hybrid nature of the sword / bow abilities, going rabid would kill a lot of the frontloaded pressure and add zero condi damage outside of a few more crit bleeds.
2500-2600 armour is enough, i think you are right about healing signet though, its so powerful and with 210 healing power its ticking for 400 a secong before adrenal healths returns as well. I would swap that in, also potentially swapping the crit sigil for a bloodlust.

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Posted by: redslion.9675

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAseSjkOpwxQCPMxBAkirq68IJlmSpwu6A-TsAA1CnI4SxljLDXSus1MsYZxkAA

This is the build I use. Sword goes well with a tank. With Deep cuts and blademaster you can still retain some decent damage. Hammer is needed for downed state control and for more burst

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because he doesn’t know it himself

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Posted by: Vaught.5198

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thats probably how i would build a sword/hammer warrior too. i just like the longbow in this particular build

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Posted by: redslion.9675

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thats probably how i would build a sword/hammer warrior too. i just like the longbow in this particular build

Longbow is doable, too. Just switch out X in defens for IX.

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Posted by: Exedore.6320

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This is what I’ve been toying with in hot join. I’m still tweaking it:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-so-Fw;0NKVO0e4gLVQ0;9;5JJ-T;128-18;229AL-V45;1CoF2CoF25kx

One big thing to remember is to never finish Flurry unless you have the freedom to be lazy. Break out after the immobilize by moving or using stow weapon. The auto-attack on sword is better than Flurry’s damage and you can move while using it.

I don’t see Sw/Sh + LB working as a condition build. You don’t have torment (off-hand sword) or confusion (Distracting Strikes trait), so removing just the bleed and burning isn’t difficult. If you do want to run it as a condition build, use Sigil of Doom to apply poison. It’s way better than Sigil of Earth due to the healing reduction mechanic.

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Posted by: Vaught.5198

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thats great feedback thanks a lot… ive worried about those points! ive used doom on an elementalist for quite good results.. thats a good note.

with distracting strikes, how good is it? i cant see any interrupt with dual sword / longbow.

so maybe thats not worth regarding

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Posted by: Vaught.5198

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Revised approach to dual swords with better cover conditions, and more pressure.

my concern with this is the lack of interrupt :/

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOpwtQyQMxBEMDNsKOPSilg80HmDA-TsAgyCqI4SxljLDXSus1M6Y1xECA

im contemplating subbing in stomp for berzerker stance, its an aoe launch that i can combo on the fire field and another stunbreaker, I already have adren access due to elite and sword 5 and high adren generation due to furious. 33% less cc duration from dogged march and cleansing ire help with condis… Stomp could be quite useful

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Posted by: Exedore.6320

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with distracting strikes, how good is it? i cant see any interrupt with dual sword / longbow.

- shield #4
- mace #3, #5 #F1
- hammer #4, #5, #F1
- rifle #5
- Bull’s Charge, Kick, Stomp

It’s most commonly used with condition damage builds that employ main hand mace and shield (not always in the same combo) or hammer usually with an off-hand sword.

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Posted by: Vaught.5198

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yeah its not worth it for the build im running… you know im kind of excited about this.. have needed something to spur my interest up for a while

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Posted by: Eiland.1405

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Vaught, this the same build with better stats:
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNAscTjkOpwtQyQMxBEMDNsKOPSilg80HmDA-TsAgyCnIqRVjrGTNyas1M6Y1xECA
You lose 30 power and 25 cond but gain 7% crit dmg , and plus 50 to vitality toughness and healing.
Enjoy.

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