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Posted by: NovaBlue.2460

NovaBlue.2460

Hey folk i am NovaBle Leader of Tsunami ( if you remember us from the beta and the beginning of the game and the better half of Blu the ranger )

Just to add context I main ele and have played nearly 3k tournament (not hotjoin) games since the start, i have not played any PvE or WvW.

From the mention of GW2 being made i was exited especially when the esports aspect of the game was announced. Ever since then before and during the game i have put a lot of effort into…..
1. Setting up the biggest a sPvP Guild at launch (Who of which me and blu are the only ones left)
2. Spending over 1k hours in sPvP (long kittening time)
3. attempting to get a solid team of 5 since Tsunami stopped (nearly impossible task as every patch people leave because of anet)

and because of this……..

For the first time Since the game started i see no reason to log on tomorrow or even pick up the game again……

1. There is nothing to strive for, an invisible rating that for all we know is based primarily on rank and playtime. A solo que (which is fundamental to a competitive game succeeding) which does not work and pits you against premades.
2. A ranking system that bears no merits apart from armor that is far to easily achievable
3. A single map over and over again, with no plans for a random map que.
4. A whole hot join section of the game which should not be there and has no use in the currant PvP system.
5. The balance of the classes in of themselves and also within different maps (strength of Eles on the new map for example)

This game has potential but i am not willing to wait any longer for it.

So what i ask and beg of ANet is to say something to the community about what you are actually gonna do about this mess that is sPvP at the moment. You say you have the balance right about contacting the community and within the PvE forums yes you have. When it comes to PvP you don’t seem to care at all about it, all i have seen you guys do is shut down posts since this patch came out. Why haven’t you said anything, is it because you are kittenting yourself because you know you have messed up big time with false promises and the like.

So back to what i want from Anet to keep me in this game. Show us what you are doing none of this “its done when its done” kitten, it has gone way way beyond that stage now people need results. Explain yourself.

The idiotic transparency needs to stop. We need numbers and dates. People cannot hold their lives to chase a dream (esports) if one side is given no information and is suffering irl while the other side doesn’t give a kitten and sits fat and pretty with a nice paycheck.
(Blu’s Quote)^^^^

I know for a fact a lot of good and top players are going to leave or have left and people will follow them.

Every one who agrees with this please add +1 to the post

Thanks for reading

NovaBlue and BLU

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Posted by: HappinessFactory.4910

HappinessFactory.4910

As someone who’s been a spectator for the better part of 2 months because of work, i’ll give my point of view to these situations.

I think it is unlikely and unfair to demand anything of arena-net at this point. They have given us 6 months post-release to make a fair judgement about the game. There have been dramatic changes like single matches, new maps, and the like. So it’s not like they’re not doing anything, but for many people (including myself) it’s taking too long to get anything rolling.

The game is fun, I wish i still had time to play it more regularly, because WvW and the PvE side of the game is a blast. But i digress, the lack of features and community population in sPvP is disheartening to say the least. So for me Heart of the Mists will simply be a transfer zone to get to Lions Arch.

@ NovaBlue
I’m going to be blunt and say you are probably not going to get a response you want… ever… and honestly, even though it sounds like you’re threatening to leave, it really looks like you’re looking for any excuse to stay and keep playing. As far as I know there have been 0 indicators for any sort of eSports, so maybe just playing for fun might be the best alternative.

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

Chillax. Give it a few more years and they will prolly get things straight. Slow and steady, baby.

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

I would say give it until the March patch Nova, wouldn’t do any harm to wait an extra month, you’ve already invested so much into the game anyway

Team Paradigm.
Xeph.

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Posted by: NovaBlue.2460

NovaBlue.2460

As someone who’s been a spectator for the better part of 2 months because of work, i’ll give my point of view to these situations.

I think it is unlikely and unfair to demand anything of arena-net at this point. They have given us 6 months post-release to make a fair judgement about the game. There have been dramatic changes like single matches, new maps, and the like. So it’s not like they’re not doing anything, but for many people (including myself) it’s taking too long to get anything rolling.

The game is fun, I wish i still had time to play it more regularly, because WvW and the PvE side of the game is a blast. But i digress, the lack of features and community population in sPvP is disheartening to say the least. So for me Heart of the Mists will simply be a transfer zone to get to Lions Arch.

@ NovaBlue
I’m going to be blunt and say you are probably not going to get a response you want… ever… and honestly, even though it sounds like you’re threatening to leave, it really looks like you’re looking for any excuse to stay and keep playing. As far as I know there have been 0 indicators for any sort of eSports, so maybe just playing for fun might be the best alternative.

Thanks for the reply.
All i was doing this post is just expressing our opinion and thanks for being honest.

The maps are a good addition yea but we didnt ask for them the priority should have been elsewhere.

Yea you are right i do want to stay and play this game i think its great and if anet will give me that reason, it has to be soon.

In regards the the indicators about esports there were loads before the game started about spectator and custom arena. Also the main driving force behind a esports game is the players which anet do not seem to listen to.

All im asking them to do is just talk to us do it on the forums or a SOTG next week or something explain themselves that is all.

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Posted by: NovaBlue.2460

NovaBlue.2460

I would say give it until the March patch Nova, wouldn’t do any harm to wait an extra month, you’ve already invested so much into the game anyway

Yea thats what i said last patch lol

Still aint fully decided yet

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

I would say give it until the March patch Nova, wouldn’t do any harm to wait an extra month, you’ve already invested so much into the game anyway

Yea thats what i said last patch lol

Still aint fully decided yet

Well then here’s your issue.
Like myself you love this game and you want it to get better, so your hanging onto every little thread that it does; and Anet has given us a lot of those threads to hang on to.
All I am going to say is, if you do leave now then I will see you next month.

P.S
I really look forward to seeing [TSU] play again.

Team Paradigm.
Xeph.

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Posted by: JoopFOX.9510

JoopFOX.9510

+1. Yeah, at least if we’d know it will take another year, I won’t have to be disappointed each month.

BTW, I’m a (former) Tsunami but grad school and unconvenient time zone (Hawaii) make it impossible for me to be active on the same level as you guys. I did like to just play semi-competitively but a lack of a solo queue disabled me from enjoying the game any further. Hope Anet will give me a reason to see you guys in-game sometime in the future. Really enjoyed the first few weeks the game was out when everyone was still playing and we had like 3 or 4 teams running tourneys at the same time.

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Posted by: NovaBlue.2460

NovaBlue.2460

I would say give it until the March patch Nova, wouldn’t do any harm to wait an extra month, you’ve already invested so much into the game anyway

Yea thats what i said last patch lol

Still aint fully decided yet

Well then here’s your issue.
Like myself you love this game and you want it to get better, so your hanging onto every little thread that it does; and Anet has given us a lot of those threads to hang on to.
All I am going to say is, if you do leave now then I will see you next month.

P.S
I really look forward to seeing [TSU] play again.

ye that may be the case but honestly would you stay if nothing happend next month.

Yea we wanna bring back TSU man was the good old days

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Posted by: Xeph.4513

Xeph.4513

I would say give it until the March patch Nova, wouldn’t do any harm to wait an extra month, you’ve already invested so much into the game anyway

Yea thats what i said last patch lol

Still aint fully decided yet

Well then here’s your issue.
Like myself you love this game and you want it to get better, so your hanging onto every little thread that it does; and Anet has given us a lot of those threads to hang on to.
All I am going to say is, if you do leave now then I will see you next month.

P.S
I really look forward to seeing [TSU] play again.

ye that may be the case but honestly would you stay if nothing happend next month.

Yea we wanna bring back TSU man was the good old days

Here is the thing, even if nothing happens next month, I can always stop playing and come back the month after.

The only thing really keeping me in the game at the moment is my team, funny enough today the team became 1 year old, so for me I guess I am dedicated more towards my team then I am the game; but I do firmly believe that this game will get better.

Team Paradigm.
Xeph.

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Posted by: NovaBlue.2460

NovaBlue.2460

I would say give it until the March patch Nova, wouldn’t do any harm to wait an extra month, you’ve already invested so much into the game anyway

Yea thats what i said last patch lol

Still aint fully decided yet

Well then here’s your issue.
Like myself you love this game and you want it to get better, so your hanging onto every little thread that it does; and Anet has given us a lot of those threads to hang on to.
All I am going to say is, if you do leave now then I will see you next month.

P.S
I really look forward to seeing [TSU] play again.

ye that may be the case but honestly would you stay if nothing happend next month.

Yea we wanna bring back TSU man was the good old days

Here is the thing, even if nothing happens next month, I can always stop playing and come back the month after.

The only thing really keeping me in the game at the moment is my team, funny enough today the team became 1 year old, so for me I guess I am dedicated more towards my team then I am the game; but I do firmly believe that this game will get better.

ahh nice congrats man happy anniversary!

well unfortunately because of most people leaving the game from my team (bored of the game and such like) if blu goes then i most likely will as well. But as you say i may come back at a later date. I hope thats the case!

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Posted by: pyscho.4627

pyscho.4627

It’s been 6 months since the game was released and you make a thread like this? Come on, I’d like to see you take a game this far after 6 months. It takes time, and you can’t please everyone. Unfortunately (for you) PvE and WvW are the majority of the game, therefore they would rather accommodate those certain people first, then take care of the sPvP and see what they can do. Give it some time. Leave and come back, it’s simple, there’s no sub.

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Posted by: NovaBlue.2460

NovaBlue.2460

It’s been 6 months since the game was released and you make a thread like this? Come on, I’d like to see you take a game this far after 6 months. It takes time, and you can’t please everyone. Unfortunately (for you) PvE and WvW are the majority of the game, therefore they would rather accommodate those certain people first, then take care of the sPvP and see what they can do. Give it some time. Leave and come back, it’s simple, there’s no sub.

Dude just look at the forums it aint just me there are way more threads like this. It is mainly the fact that they made promises that they aint deliverd on. Also if you compare this to other mmo PvP designers they have a better community support which is what this game is lacking and everyone should be agreeing to that and that is what i ask of them.

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Posted by: JoopFOX.9510

JoopFOX.9510

It’s been 6 months since the game was released and you make a thread like this? Come on, I’d like to see you take a game this far after 6 months. It takes time, and you can’t please everyone. Unfortunately (for you) PvE and WvW are the majority of the game, therefore they would rather accommodate those certain people first, then take care of the sPvP and see what they can do. Give it some time. Leave and come back, it’s simple, there’s no sub.

The funny thing is, there’s Indie games that DO offer more support and features for competitive play. Also, it’s not unfair to at least have them communicate and admit that PVP is the lowest priority of all. That way, you won’t disappoint people every time.

Professor James – Mesmer

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Posted by: Baba Baba Ba.9810

Baba Baba Ba.9810

/signed.

OP pretty much nailed it.
Point is: There are tons of these threads out there at the moment. Not troll – threads, but well-written, thought through topics, from people that really care about the game (shamelessly advertising the link in my signature here) .
It’s a shame Arenanet does not seem to have the community management that would be necessary for this.

People do care. People love the potential of this game. Yet, the development is so slow, and the big kittening air qoute E – Sport big kittening air qoute features are just not coming.

It’s just a ladder, god kitten Just give us a ladder and we will have a reason to play.

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

In short, “big PvP/balance patch”.

Unless it comes live in March, there will be no reason to stick around and play PvP. If it’s not ready for March, as we were made to believe, there will be literally no incentive to log in to the game.

My guild is giving it one last month and a chance to bring the ‘big’ stuff. If March fails, it’s unlikely we’re ever going to play again.

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Posted by: nerva.7940

nerva.7940

Op youre rightnon every point but it has already been discusses ad nauseum. Me, im just doing wvw until this thing is up and running. Dont need to wait just go play other games/modes and come back in 3-6 months.

Ikiro – 80 Ranger
Umie – 80 Guardian
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Posted by: samo.1054

samo.1054

Well you got my +1, not much more to add to that. I gave up months ago, I log in once every week, altho I don’t even know why. Guess there’s a part of me that still wishes this game had any charm to keep me playing, like I did Guild Wars 1 for 4000 hours…

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Posted by: chalwa.9783

chalwa.9783

/sign
brilliant analisys, unfortunately i agree on all the points you mentioned, expecially about the spvp guilds failure due to weekly constant lefting from people, which is also my case…
Just hope for better, peace.
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Posted by: Moderator.6837

Moderator.6837

Hello,

There is already a thread about this here : About the last patch for PvP.

Therefore, this one is now closed to avoid duplicates.

Thank you.