Guild Wars 2

Really, I appreciate it that AA on guard is now better dps on at least 3 of our weapons than the skills that have cool downs. I thought guardian was a little too hard to play before. I really needed the decision to use True Shot taken away from me.

Guess we are back to press 1 guild wars. There’s a reason no one is playing guardian outside of the lower tiers. But by all means buff mesmer, ignore CS + moa, and let’s buff eles too.

Yup its true, mesmer is buffed. Now instead of mard they can grab a destroyer ammulet. Same with revenant. They buffed classes that needed nerfs. As a former mesmer main I’m giving up my thief and rerolling mesmer because there is no point. Mesmer is their baby. They invented it. They really love how unique this class is. They will never give another class the lead role.

But trust me. Grab a mesmer. They are weird at first, but after a while, you will destroy evety other class. They are easy to play and have infinate potential. Play anything else and the odds are agaisnt you

Zelulose.8695:

Yup its true, mesmer is buffed. Now instead of mard they can grab a destroyer ammulet. Same with revenant. They buffed classes that needed nerfs. As a former mesmer main I’m giving up my thief and rerolling mesmer because there is no point. Mesmer is their baby. They invented it. They really love how unique this class is. They will never give another class the lead role.

But trust me. Grab a mesmer. They are weird at first, but after a while, you will destroy evety other class. They are easy to play and have infinate potential. Play anything else and the odds are agaisnt you

Here are the notes on Mesmer, please understand that Anet did not buff (an overstated generalization) Mesmer; they did not nerf them either(which is what some wanted especially on Continuum Shift/elite utils.). Please be advised that encouraging others to take Mesmer as if its an “automatic” success, is misleading.

Feedback: Fixed an issue that prevented the combo ring for this skill from displaying.

Ether Bolt: Reduced the aftercast delay by 0.16 seconds.

Ether Blast: Reduced the aftercast delay by 0.28 seconds.

Ether Clone: Reduced the aftercast delay by 0.45 seconds. This skill no longer fires a missile but is a direct attack instead.

Counterspell: The cooldown of this skill has been reduced from 10 seconds to 8 seconds. The damage from this skill has been increased by 50% when an attack is blocked. The attack activation time has been reduced by 0.2 seconds. The aftercast delay has been reduced by 0.24 seconds.

Confusing Images: The damage output of this skill has been increased by 20%.

Illusionary Riposte: Reduced the cooldown of this skill from 15 seconds to 12 seconds. The attack activation time has been reduced by 0.4 seconds. The aftercast delay has been reduced by 1 second.

Restorative Mantras: This trait now displays a blue ring effect while channeling a mantra, indicating the trait’s effective area.

Well of Action: The recharge time of this skill has been reduced from 30 seconds to 25 seconds.

Well of Precognition: The recharge time of this skill has been reduced from 45 seconds to 30 seconds.

Well of Recall: The recharge time of this skill has been reduced from 40 seconds to 35 seconds.

Flow of Time: The alacrity applied by this trait has been increased from 0.75 seconds to 1 second per illusion shattered.

eleshazar.6902:

Really, I appreciate it that AA on guard is now better dps on at least 3 of our weapons than the skills that have cool downs. I thought guardian was a little too hard to play before. I really needed the decision to use True Shot taken away from me.

Guess we are back to press 1 guild wars. There’s a reason no one is playing guardian outside of the lower tiers. But by all means buff mesmer, ignore CS + moa, and let’s buff eles too.

Stop the crying. Guardian is fine. Traps are basically untouched and that’s where mostly all of guardians damage is coming from. How can you complain about being able to stack traps and potentially 100 to 0 a player?

Not to mention the extraordinary amount of block uptime guards have and invul.

Aza.2105:

Stop the crying. Guardian is fine.

Guardians are useless in PvP since HoT release 6 months ago, and will be useless at least for a 3 months more.

In WvW they are now in slighly better stance as raid frontliners, but as roamers/duellist they are now as dead as the WvW game itself (so nobody will care).

In PvE Guardians were sub-par at the most demanding content (high level fractals and in raids); now they are sub-par at every PvE content.

But which ads insult to the hurt is the fact that those nerfs weren’t due the abysmal Guardian’s PvP performance, or how “op” they were in PvE: the nerfs to the bow and the trap (Test of Faith, third in a row) but to counter the marginal effects of those skills in the ultra-niche department of WvW.

So the class is now destroyed in both PvE and PvP (well, they weren’t present at all in PvP in high end amtches, anyway) due WvW balances.

I just forged Enternity for my main (a DH) last week and I’m a bit upset about how useless is now in most of the content of the game; thankfully I have the other 8 classses so I can have fun playing my Rev and relegating my Guardian(s) to the task He(they) deserve(s): mining ore in syberia.

Aza.2105:

eleshazar.6902:

Really, I appreciate it that AA on guard is now better dps on at least 3 of our weapons than the skills that have cool downs. I thought guardian was a little too hard to play before. I really needed the decision to use True Shot taken away from me.

Guess we are back to press 1 guild wars. There’s a reason no one is playing guardian outside of the lower tiers. But by all means buff mesmer, ignore CS + moa, and let’s buff eles too.

Stop the crying. Guardian is fine. Traps are basically untouched and that’s where mostly all of guardians damage is coming from. How can you complain about being able to stack traps and potentially 100 to 0 a player?

Not to mention the extraordinary amount of block uptime guards have and invul.

DH traps should of got the cut cause that’s where a lot of the complaints were coming from. Now LB just basically got trashed in usability for other builds that aren’t trappers. The Hunters Ward nerf I can understand and I’m okay with it, I was expecting True Shot to get nerfed by at most 10% or a CD increase, but they completely neutered it and made it worse than beta TS. A rooted, charged up single shot, against projectile hate and Damage Mitigation stacking/Protection, running berserkers amulet on a guard I’ve only been hitting for 2-3k on crit against people with protection. Glass without protection in light armor hits about 5k+ at the most.

Lucentfir.7430:

Aza.2105:

eleshazar.6902:

Really, I appreciate it that AA on guard is now better dps on at least 3 of our weapons than the skills that have cool downs. I thought guardian was a little too hard to play before. I really needed the decision to use True Shot taken away from me.

Guess we are back to press 1 guild wars. There’s a reason no one is playing guardian outside of the lower tiers. But by all means buff mesmer, ignore CS + moa, and let’s buff eles too.

Stop the crying. Guardian is fine. Traps are basically untouched and that’s where mostly all of guardians damage is coming from. How can you complain about being able to stack traps and potentially 100 to 0 a player?

Not to mention the extraordinary amount of block uptime guards have and invul.

DH traps should of got the cut cause that’s where a lot of the complaints were coming from. Now LB just basically got trashed in usability for other builds that aren’t trappers. The Hunters Ward nerf I can understand and I’m okay with it, I was expecting True Shot to get nerfed by at most 10% or a CD increase, but they completely neutered it and made it worse than beta TS. A rooted, charged up single shot, against projectile hate and Damage Mitigation stacking/Protection, running berserkers amulet on a guard I’ve only been hitting for 2-3k on crit against people with protection. Glass without protection in light armor hits about 5k+ at the most.

Yeah I agree.

I was expecting traps to get a nerf. Not true shot. Anet works in mysterious ways.

Can’t help but feel like this is just overreaction.

You’ve been playing with the changes for a day, it’s way too soon to call failure. Especially since the 20% to Trueshot was the only nerf the Guardian got, among a few buffs. Yes Mesmer (and Rev) was unchanged when it deserved to be nerfed, but only because their grass is greener doesn’t mean that Guard is trash.

I can only imagine what you would do if you mained Warrior.

Zeghart.9841:

Can’t help but feel like this is just overreaction.

They are not overreacting, Guardians have been garbage for months with problems stemming back many years. Every single patch it is nothing but nerfs, none of our many broken traits/ weapons/ skills ever get touched despite years of mature well written posts.

HoT made everything worse, Guardians are the most useless class in the entire game now, this isn’t even an exaggeration, we truly are completely moldy garbage in every game mode.

And the devs do nothing about, no communication, no acknowledgment of our problems, nothing.

I honestly don’t know what to do anymore, trying to talk to the devs like mature adults doesn’t work, and i am not going to wait another three years in the hope that they finally stop being lazy and do something meaningful.

This patch was the last straw for me, i thought after the train wreck that was the last balance patch and once again the overwhelming mature positive feedback that followed that would finally get something positive, but no, once again ANet insults its playerbase, the way they are treating us is disgusting and immoral

Zeghart.9841:

Can’t help but feel like this is just overreaction.

You’ve been playing with the changes for a day, it’s way too soon to call failure. Especially since the 20% to Trueshot was the only nerf the Guardian got, among a few buffs. Yes Mesmer (and Rev) was unchanged when it deserved to be nerfed, but only because their grass is greener doesn’t mean that Guard is trash.

I can only imagine what you would do if you mained Warrior.

Only nerf? Hunter’s Ward got rekt too amongst other things, It’s dodgeable and the rings it creates only affects those hit by it. Pre patch it used to create rings even if you dodged it, and it affected everyone else as well. And TS damage was a tad higher in Beta, and people also said that TS was lacking.

If you think some people are overreacting go and play LB on DH with Zerker Amulet. Watch as Protection and other classes face tank True Shot like nothing, for measly 2-5k crits based on protection and mitigation, or just completely null it with projectile hate. It’s basically not worth using now, and puts you in more danger than the enemy.

Zeghart.9841:

Can’t help but feel like this is just overreaction.

You’ve been playing with the changes for a day, it’s way too soon to call failure. Especially since the 20% to Trueshot was the only nerf the Guardian got, among a few buffs. Yes Mesmer (and Rev) was unchanged when it deserved to be nerfed, but only because their grass is greener doesn’t mean that Guard is trash.

I can only imagine what you would do if you mained Warrior.

as one of the most outspoken and one of the very few top tier DH i can tell you that the true shot nerf is not the problem. its the hunters ward nerf. that kitten basically just destroyed us in 3v3+. we aren’t even usable now.

Aza.2105:

eleshazar.6902:

Really, I appreciate it that AA on guard is now better dps on at least 3 of our weapons than the skills that have cool downs. I thought guardian was a little too hard to play before. I really needed the decision to use True Shot taken away from me.

Guess we are back to press 1 guild wars. There’s a reason no one is playing guardian outside of the lower tiers. But by all means buff mesmer, ignore CS + moa, and let’s buff eles too.

Stop the crying. Guardian is fine. Traps are basically untouched and that’s where mostly all of guardians damage is coming from. How can you complain about being able to stack traps and potentially 100 to 0 a player?

Not to mention the extraordinary amount of block uptime guards have and invul.

The problem is that Anet just took the nerf hammer to the class without understanding that there really is no viable build for guard other than the questionable trapper one. I say that because that one is worth nothing against non newbie players. You can’t 100-0 a player who knows what they are doing because stunbreak (assuming you SoJ-ed into the traps) and dodge will avoid 100% of the damage of traps. What happened is that Anet made it more beneficial on another weapon to just stick with AA instead of the other skills. HW should have seen tweaks in the hold duration, not in the skill itself like it is now. It will never hit a player that has half a brain anymore.

It isn’t just that this one nerf destroyed a good class, it’s that this nerf hit a class that really couldn’t afford to lose anything else because it is already that bad in all game modes (has been in pvp for a LONG time).

Zeghart.9841:

Can’t help but feel like this is just overreaction.

You’ve been playing with the changes for a day, it’s way too soon to call failure. Especially since the 20% to Trueshot was the only nerf the Guardian got, among a few buffs. Yes Mesmer (and Rev) was unchanged when it deserved to be nerfed, but only because their grass is greener doesn’t mean that Guard is trash.

I can only imagine what you would do if you mained Warrior.

The buffs they got were to skills DH don’t even use and were ridiculous anyway. Big deal slight shaves on some cooldowns. Don’t be so kitten ed ignorant. Guardians are probably the worst class now. Just because Warriors were/are bad doesn’t mean Guardians have to be equally as bad for awhile.

not thure its so bad … I feel like the skill cap was raised with the changes. Buffs to core mechanic and more or less one heavy nerf to the skill that carried many. True shot …
What i fear is that rev is to much now. And mesmers moa will still make players rant …

Wolfric.9380:

not thure its so bad … I feel like the skill cap was raised with the changes. Buffs to core mechanic and more or less one heavy nerf to the skill that carried many. True shot …
What i fear is that rev is to much now. And mesmers moa will still make players rant …

ok seriously I DONT CARE ABOUT THE TRUE SHOT NERF the problem is the hunter’s ward nerf. that was the ONLY significant skill shot skill guardian has. Its not kittening easy to land a ward on people running off node and i had some kittening pride in being able to land it 80% despite not knowing where people would go. Now I STILL have to do be able to do that AND rely on the fact that the person I’m fighting is suffering brain damage or is out of dodge rolls, blocks, invulns and evades. Like kitten MAN. WHY. WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY ANET WHAT THE kitten HAS GUARDIAN DONE TO kitten YOU OFF SO MUCH TO NERF US EVERYPATCH WHEN NO ONE USES US