Guild Wars 2

So I have a question for you all, it seems to me that taking newer or less experienced people into unranked, to teach them, hurts them if you queue up with a team.

Has anyone else noticed this?

It bothers me because having that cushion would really help them enjoy and learn the game. However I often see that it would be better for them to go into Solo queue then with a team of 4-5. (However we all know this isnt going to ultimately be good for them)

What would you all suggest for teaching new people to pvp in unranked due to how the MMR works with teams? Team or solo queue?

I would suggest telling them to play on a necro or rev, proceed to roll your face on the keyboard for an easy win.

All premade got 1 weakest link.

Your premade is as Strong as your weakest guy.

Make him play easy OP meta build. Scrapper or Reaper are somewhat easier than the others.

Don’t bring in your premade high MMR people.

Put your new guy on home and made him call for more at the right time. Let him assist mid fights and explain to him he need to prevent the cap on home if it’s decap.

Play defensive rotations.

You will carry your new guy. But make sure to 1v1 him with the build he take with all your team before hand.

The other option is to make a trio queue and use the same strat. Roaming decision are game changer. Holding a point is easier, the decisions are less based on rotations.

Thanks guys,
I quickly realized that whether we won or lose newer players were being disheartened by being smashed all the time. So your suggestions really help!

Training new players is difficult in GW2 conquest, due to it’s dynamic. Rather than tell you why it’s difficult, I’ll tell you what we do with new guild joins:

• Make them select a working meta to main if they want to play on our team. It’s not that meta is the only option but new players need to learn and understand meta first before they tweak.
• Bring them in to our custom arena and have them train against veteran players in focused combat situations against other meta builds.
• Make sure they have a fundamental understanding of what they counter, what counters them and how to deal with these situations.
• Move on to practicing 2v2s, 3v3s, ect. Make sure they understand things that are important to do and not do during team fights.
• Get on TS3 with them and be patient while they learn. Some people learn faster than others.

It does not take long to do the above with new players and If they are commited, you can save them months of fumbling around in solo ques and get them up to speed in a single night. These basics are important to understand initially because if they do not understand these basics, they get frustrated & demoralized easily when running with older players due to not understanding why they are doing so poorly and if they don’t understand why, they won’t know what to focus on to get better. If they do understand the basics, they will understand why they are losing and actually have direction on what to pay attention to and work on next.

Trevor Boyer.6524:

Training new players is difficult in GW2 conquest, due to it’s dynamic. Rather than tell you why it’s difficult, I’ll tell you what we do with new guild joins:

• Make them select a working meta to main if they want to play on our team. It’s not that meta is the only option but new players need to learn and understand meta first before they tweak.
• Bring them in to our custom arena and have them train against veteran players in focused combat situations against other meta builds.
• Make sure they have a fundamental understanding of what they counter, what counters them and how to deal with these situations.
• Move on to practicing 2v2s, 3v3s, ect. Make sure they understand things that are important to do and not do during team fights.
• Get on TS3 with them and be patient while they learn. Some people learn faster than others.

It does not take long to do the above with new players and If they are commited, you can save them months of fumbling around in solo ques and get them up to speed in a single night. These basics are important to understand initially because if they do not understand these basics, they get frustrated & demoralized easily when running with older players due to not understanding why they are doing so poorly and if they don’t understand why, they won’t know what to focus on to get better. If they do understand the basics, they will understand why they are losing and actually have direction on what to pay attention to and work on next.

Thank you! So helpful!

practice 1v1 a lot. have them fight a lot of people and builds/classes. teach them how to fight better. teamspeak helps a ton for feedback.

give and teach them builds. how to sustain. how to kill. how to support/teamfight etc

then teach them how to rotate for their class. call things in coms etc.

Learning their own class and other classes are great, but I would emphasise strategic rotations first and formost. You can be a bad player but if you’re good at managing your engagements, healthpool, and rotating to +1 an otherwise even fight (along with proper focus targeting but that can come later) then the player will help his team more than learning the meta curve.

I say this because i’ve met some great duelists who can’t TPvP at all. They don’t know how to rotate, they stay on point when they need to roam, enter team fights only to die, etc. Proper map awareness is a must!!

Always willing to lend a welcome hand if you ever want me in teamspeak!