Terror fear interaction with stability.

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Posted by: Iceflame.5024

Iceflame.5024

Hello there ladies and gentlemen.

I would like to point your attention to a behavior that I find to be quite unfair in PVP.
I am going to be talking about necromancer trait called terror. If you take it your fear will deal damage to the target and quite a good chunk of a 1 tick of 1 k damage. If we take master of terror on top(+50% fear duration) then we can get two ticks for 2 k + damage total which is quite huge. The unfair part that I see is that stability nullifies fears and in the case of terror fear it negates the damage part while it is supposed to be an ANTI CC boon.

If we look into PVE a bit we can see that boss and champions mobs have this buff called defiant: Immune to crowd control. Crowd control skills remove stacks of Defiant. The thing is even when the mob has stacks on it and you fear him, the fear condition is still applied to him but the CC effect of fear doesn’t take place.

I would like to see terror fear damage go through stability in a similar way like it interacts with the defiant thing.

Stunbreakers interaction with terror fear is actually an issue too but I do not have an idea of what to suggest regarding it. For now I can only suggest a solution to making terror fear interact with stability the way it does with defiant.

This problem is only unique to necromancers or rather to the traited terror fear and is also vulnerable to condition cleansing since it is a condition and CC effect at the same time. Fear just has too many counters in this state.

If you gentlemen do not find this problem to be of any significance, then please be so kind to check out this attachment I made. It explains of how important the problem actually is.

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Posted by: Jax.5261

Jax.5261

That’s 10 minutes of your life you’re never gonna get back!

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Posted by: GankSinatra.2653

GankSinatra.2653

It makes fear do damage. So if a person clears the fear or is immune to it, how would that fear continue to do damage? Only the fact that it works on pve bosses makes me think you’re on to something. It would make more sense to me to do something about how fear is cured by both condi cleanse and CC break. Like the pic though.

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Posted by: Shar.3402

Shar.3402

So, someone immune to fear should still take damage from traited fear?
makes no sense, and it’s actually the pve part that acts strange (probably because mobs would always be immune to terror if it worked like in pvp)

long story short, it’s working as intended, if you want to deal damage with terror, remove stability first.

this thing is actually just as stupid as a guardian whining that corrupt boon counters save yourselves -.-

Shar Teel – Elementalist
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Posted by: Iceflame.5024

Iceflame.5024

Shar I will not probably be able to convince you judging by your tone post but it’s like:

Daze/Stun and other CC effects – removed by stunbreakers and blocked by stability

Immobilize – not removed by stun breakers or blocked by stability, but removed by condi cleansing

Fear – removed by stunbreakers, blocked by stability, cleansed with condi cleansing

You are actually right at the “makes no sense” part as you can see.=P The problem is in the design core of fear being this unique snow flake thing and treated as a condition and a CC effect at the same time which brings it to having a lot of counters compared to everything else. There are no advantages of being treated as both at all. Fear that deals damage is even more unique and a necro specific abomination. I actually see the terror trait being as significant as a class mechanic but this might not be that relevant since it’s personal. The uniqueness of it is still there though.

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Posted by: Stof.9584

Stof.9584

Use Corrupt Boon, it turns Stability into … Fear!

Then chain your other Fears if you know the target has no other sources of Stability.

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Posted by: Rallad.3802

Rallad.3802

Oh OP, you made my afternoon with that comic strip ^^

In all fairness stability is an immensely strong boon.

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Posted by: Iceflame.5024

Iceflame.5024

Use Corrupt Boon, it turns Stability into … Fear!

Then chain your other Fears if you know the target has no other sources of Stability.

Stunbreakers…….. Condi cleansing……

Also note that I am focusing on the damage part which is only unique to necro, I am not promoting people being vulnerable to fear CC while having stability. I want the damage to go through it specifically. If that is unacceptable then I’d like something to be done regarding fear being countered by the three things at the same time.

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Posted by: Erwin.5603

Erwin.5603

If you waste your fear on a player with stability on him, than that’s your fault and bad in itself.

Fixi