Guild Wars 2

Recently got into the Spvp scene after being a hardcore PvE/WvW player. I use to play Spvp during the beta weekends as i felt playing PvE was a waste of time due to the character wipes. That being said, like most HC wvwers i know how to play my class and i know how to play it well and even tho Spvp has selected class base roles such as ‘Bunkers’ and ‘Roamers’ most PvE players who know how to play can fill those roles easily without much explination.

I’ve played games such as League, Dota, HoN and as far as i can tell their communities suck. You’re having a bad day and you’re not playing your A-game? expect to be reported, even playing a non-ranked match. (Its that bad) Expect to be reported for forces you can’t control such as Internet disconnections Lag and PC problems.

I can see the direction that the current Spvp community is going on and its going to become the elitist kittenry that we see on those MOBA games.

I came into a match and got flamed at for having my Commander tag on, i earned it fairly so i flaunt it, tell me go to back to pve and wvw because of it? Dont be up your self because you’re 10 ranks higher then me, i mean really?

Sure, its easy to get annoyed when someone leaves the match or goes afk during a tourney, but to say stuff like that deserved to be banned is out of the question, specially when we’re talking about FREE TO PLAY tournies.

Being a Pve player, i was the pug in a premade rank 20 team, sure i was nervous, being fairly new to spvp but hey, guess who ended up with the most points? me!, just because im rank 3 and im wearing a ‘pve badge’ doesnt mean im useless.

Please dont become as arrogant as those MOBA communitys. I love Gw2 and i love the players, so lets act responsibly and treat each other with respect no matter what aspect of the game with play.

See you guys in game.

Oh where to start…

First off, your commander badge is absolutely worthless in Spvp, sorry; it means absolutely nothing other than making you are target to be nuked.

Second, points mean (almost) nothing, I have played matches where I got 330 points and matches when I got 45 points, it can vary wildly. Running around capping points does not speak towards your skill as a player.

Flaunt your commander badge? Really? Le sigh…

The point of the Commander badge is to organise large groups of players, which only occurs in PvE and WvW. If you turn it on solely for the purpose of “flaunting” it then you instantly lose all respect from me.

And this is where the community is going guys.

The Elitism is going to happen eventually. There will be threads like this that remind us that we need to be better then that, but it’s inevititable. Enjoy it now while the pvp community is small.

Its nothing personal. You have to understand that those ‘elitists’ are getting these kind of matches all day, you were just another statistic who as you admitted is mainly a pve player. Cant fault people for getting angry at the 100th rank 3 player of the day but you cant really be faulted either, if you want to do pvp and wear a title/commander badge you should. Try to suck it up until we get some solo queue.

The thing is, having your Commander tag out for no reason other than to “flaunt” it gives me the feeling that you’re the one who’s, in your words, “up yourself”. Too many people get the Commander tag as though it is some kind of status symbol, perverting its intended function of being a rallying point for WvW and, to a lesser extent, PvE. I hate people who do that.

Other than that I don’t care if you’re bad or whatever, we’re all new at one point.

Anet needs to change the Commander tag to actually reflect WvW competency, as opposed to having every PvE gold farmer looking to it as a “symbol if 1337 5k1ll5”.

Commander tag is bad in sPvP.

Why would you want to feed your enemy info? That just sets your team back.

You basically “flaunt” at expense of your team, I would get angry too.

Gaidax.7835:

Commander tag is bad in sPvP.

Why would you want to feed your enemy info? That just sets your team back.

You basically “flaunt” at expense of your team, I would get angry too.

An excellent point. Not only are you perverting the function of the Commander but you’re also dragging your team down.

I wasn’t aware that the enemy team could see it, thanks for explaining that. Didnt mean to drag my team down in anyway.

if someone had actually cared to tell me that while i was in game i’d understand why people would be angsty about me using a tag in spvp.

You flaunt a commander icon? lol

Commander doesn’t mean much in pvp usually people who have it on want attention. Also gaining the most points doesn’t mean anything you can have the most points and still lose

RoRo.8270:

Commander doesn’t mean much in pvp usually people who have it on want attention.

I’m not gona talk about PVE/WWW its Barbie Fashion – Dress-Up Game for girls (main goal in PVE is to have a most beautiful Barbie doll).
But in tPvP commander badge has meaning for me, and it means: “this girl is lost she should go back to barbie dressing”.

Archemist.4362:

I’ve played games such as League, Dota, HoN and as far as i can tell their communities suck. You’re having a bad day and you’re not playing your A-game? expect to be reported, even playing a non-ranked match. (Its that bad) Expect to be reported for forces you can’t control such as Internet disconnections Lag and PC problems.

I can see the direction that the current Spvp community is going on and its going to become the elitist kittenry that we see on those MOBA games.

This will not happen because of how the game is built. In MOBA games like LoL and DOTA, when you die you actively give your opposition a lot of gold and XP, so dying a few times means you actively made your opposition much stronger, sometimes to the point where they will decimate the rest of your teammates with ease. In GW2 if you die you just give your opponents 5 points. It has maybe 1% of the bad impact dying has in MOBA games. Totalbiscuit talked extensively in some of his videos on the subject.

Your situation is rather unique since it’s not easy in GW2 to actively be detrimental to your team, but having a commander tag is one of those rare things whose consequence is to actively harm your own team.

The enemy can see the commander tag. They always know where one of the players in the team is. If you try to capture a neglected point, they’ll see you coming. So I can completely understand people’s frustruation with players that do not turn off the commander tag while in sPvP, even if I’d prefare they wouldn’t express their frustruation in a hostile manner.

Well first of all if the enemy can see your Comander Icon Anet needs to address (fix) that. Second, i usualy do PvP in the mists and in WvWvW and i already have found very good players on both sides, so i dont see any problem in being a WvWvW player and being in the mists doing some PvP.
If someone thinks that you cannot use your comander icon (when the other team dont see it), tell them do clear all their armour except the default one, because they can´t wear what they have won also.
You also can block them. Some people just dont deserve to be listen.
Cya in game

the problem isn’t wvwvw or pve players coming in to learn how to spvp or tpvp.

the problem is wvwvw or pve players complaining about elitist treatment from the pvp community without having taken the initiative to learn first.

frankly, @OP, i have every reason to doubt that you even asked why they got mad at your commander title instead of just having a carebear cuddle about their “rude” behavior.

so instead, you came here to remind us all once again why the reversion to the old pvp daily system is just another wrench in the works because pve players can come and get their laurels in less than a quarter the time it takes to get them in pve.

P.S. “personal points” are irrelevant in tpvp.

Contrary to those who say hostile enemies can see a commander tag, they can’t.

They can, like in WvW, see the buff on your buff bar but not the actual blue icon.

Zeke Minus.5720:

Contrary to those who say hostile enemies can see a commander tag, they can’t.

They can, like in WvW, see the buff on your buff bar but not the actual blue icon.

I have also that opinion but i could not comfirm that in my previous post. Thanks