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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

Ran another solo queue. What did I get? 4x thieves…

How can anyone take the game seriously with queuing so bad?

I took the screenie just after the first thief left.

This is sad.

Edit: updated post to clean up and remove names.

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Posted by: Trigr.6481

Trigr.6481

I enjoyed how you put a white box over the names except the upper left corner

Countless

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

4 thieves on a 4v5. It couldn’t be worse than that.

But yeah, lately, SoloQ matches are almost always unfun because of either AFK, 4v5, or very lopsided matchups (total noobs or clueless PVE farmers being eaten alive by clearly better players). And this is regardless of being on the pwning team or the being-pwned team.

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: Vitalij.7193

Vitalij.7193

I enjoyed how you put a white box over the names except the upper left corner

Countless

xD

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

system cant know what proffesion people gonna play

its players fault when they dont change class and just stick to thief and do a 4xthief

i dont wanna have stupid filter which force us to play a special meta and system let only in the class

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Posted by: Aereniel.7356

Aereniel.7356

More importantly, how did blue team score 341 points with that comp? Thief clearly OP, nerf plis.

Seriously though, I wouldn’t mind some profession balancing between teams in soloQ, so that five warrior or five necro teams don’t happen. It’s going to adversely affect queue time, of course, so the feature should probably scale dynamically according to the queuing population. Character swapping also needs to be taken into account, so that people don’t queue with the “fastest” profession only to swap when the match pops.

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Posted by: Michael.9517

Michael.9517

ive come to accept pvp in this game should not be taken seriously. I feel so much better now.

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

4 thieves on a 4v5. It couldn’t be worse than that.

But yeah, lately, SoloQ matches are almost always unfun because of either AFK, 4v5, or very lopsided matchups (total noobs or clueless PVE farmers being eaten alive by clearly better players). And this is regardless of being on the pwning team or the being-pwned team.

It was a 5v5, one left as soon as the match ended.

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Posted by: Amitabh Bachan.4385

Amitabh Bachan.4385

At least they were getting a lot of kills.. I can’t take tPvP seriously anymore anyways. If the match is decided, which it usually is in the first 3 minutes I say eff the points and just try to kill people or escape.

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Posted by: EverythingEnds.4261

EverythingEnds.4261

Same problem here.
Especially when 1 team gets 2-3 guards/bunkers and the other one has none.

Can’t the MM system give both teams one of each profession, if there’s 2 times the same prof?

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

More importantly, how did blue team score 341 points with that comp? Thief clearly OP, nerf plis.

We basically zerged between 2 points most of the time. Not much you can do – can’t actually hold a point.

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Posted by: Rob.1039

Rob.1039

At least they were getting a lot of kills.. I can’t take tPvP seriously anymore anyways. If the match is decided, which it usually is in the first 3 minutes I say eff the points and just try to kill people or escape.

I’d even say that some games are decided before they start. Long story short, I had team of guard, war, necro and two thieves (one being myself) yesterday, with other team having two guards, war, ranger and necro. Straight away our necro started complaining about thieves and refused to play before countdown timer even hit 00:00. So, playing 4 versus 5 we obviously couldn’t win and lost that game by… by 30 pts! (501 :471). If only our afk-er moved his kitten to close point and just auto attack we’d have most likely won, but I guess his scrub mentality took over. Oh well..
To op, I feel your pain man, but still I think you guys have done good, considering your team comp^^

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Posted by: RoRo.8270

RoRo.8270

Same problem here.
Especially when 1 team gets 2-3 guards/bunkers and the other one has none.

Can’t the MM system give both teams one of each profession, if there’s 2 times the same prof?

This is a player problem. Players can easily switch to other characters before the match starts, but everyone wants to do their own thing.

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Posted by: Drafigo.4690

Drafigo.4690

Same problem here.
Especially when 1 team gets 2-3 guards/bunkers and the other one has none.

Can’t the MM system give both teams one of each profession, if there’s 2 times the same prof?

This is a player problem. Players can easily switch to other characters before the match starts, but everyone wants to do their own thing.

I believe I read somewhere last patch or the one before that you cannot change. ONce you enter a match at all you cannot make character changes. Someone even told me yesterday that you can no long swap weapons or skills including elites before the match starts one you accept and log in to the match. Maybe someone can confirm this.

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Posted by: Justin ODell.9517

Justin ODell.9517

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Just a reminder, solo arena match making works by sorting players by their MMR and then putting them into teams based on that order. (Exact pattern: 0 3 4 7 8, 1 2 5 6 9)

Any particular arrangement of ranks or professions is completely coincidental.

Future match making will reduce the chances of getting a match like this by reducing the number of duplicate professions and preferring players close to your rank.

Server Programmer (sPvP)
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Posted by: Drafigo.4690

Drafigo.4690

Just a reminder, solo arena match making works by sorting players by their MMR and then putting them into teams based on that order. (Exact pattern: 0 3 4 7 8, 1 2 5 6 9)

Any particular arrangement of ranks or professions is completely coincidental.

Future match making will reduce the chances of getting a match like this by reducing the number of duplicate professions and preferring players close to your rank.

Justin can you confirm what I mentioned above? Also can you give us an idea when these new rules for matchmaking take effect.

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Posted by: Justin ODell.9517

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Justin ODell.9517

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This is a player problem. Players can easily switch to other characters before the match starts, but everyone wants to do their own thing.

I believe I read somewhere last patch or the one before that you cannot change. ONce you enter a match at all you cannot make character changes. Someone even told me yesterday that you can no long swap weapons or skills including elites before the match starts one you accept and log in to the match. Maybe someone can confirm this.

Skills, gear, and traits are locked after the game begins, but I believe we do allow players to change those as well as characters before the match starts.

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Posted by: RoRo.8270

RoRo.8270

Same problem here.
Especially when 1 team gets 2-3 guards/bunkers and the other one has none.

Can’t the MM system give both teams one of each profession, if there’s 2 times the same prof?

This is a player problem. Players can easily switch to other characters before the match starts, but everyone wants to do their own thing.

I believe I read somewhere last patch or the one before that you cannot change. ONce you enter a match at all you cannot make character changes. Someone even told me yesterday that you can no long swap weapons or skills including elites before the match starts one you accept and log in to the match. Maybe someone can confirm this.

Unless there was a patch today you can change characters anytime you want. I’ve been doing it and did it yesterday

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Posted by: Thedenofsin.7340

Thedenofsin.7340

If team composition is important, but profession selection is random, then position in the leaderboard is largely influenced by RNG, which means the leaderboards aren’t an accurate measure of player skill.

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Posted by: Vincesco.8340

Vincesco.8340

based on much exp i can clearly say there is no well working matchmaking in soloq. Just take it as a HJ match with “rules”. This doesnt mean that you cant enjoy it. I prefer playing soloq than HJ and have a lot of fun. Just DONT take soloq serious. If you wanna start a tourny with even skilled teammates go play TeamQ!

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Posted by: ahuba.6430

ahuba.6430

Same problem here.
Especially when 1 team gets 2-3 guards/bunkers and the other one has none.

Can’t the MM system give both teams one of each profession, if there’s 2 times the same prof?

This is a player problem. Players can easily switch to other characters before the match starts, but everyone wants to do their own thing.

I believe I read somewhere last patch or the one before that you cannot change. ONce you enter a match at all you cannot make character changes. Someone even told me yesterday that you can no long swap weapons or skills including elites before the match starts one you accept and log in to the match. Maybe someone can confirm this.

you can switch as you please

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Posted by: Magische Boek.2530

Magische Boek.2530

lol today i (a thief) and 3 other thiefs ended up in the same team, than our 5th guy joined and he was a warrior. first thing he said in team chat “lol should i switch to thief?” and we all agreed he should :p. 5 thiefs blasting on the other team and we won :p

I’m not arguing!
I’m simply explaining why I’m right.

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Posted by: RoyHarmon.5398

RoyHarmon.5398

lol today i (a thief) and 3 other thiefs ended up in the same team, than our 5th guy joined and he was a warrior. first thing he said in team chat “lol should i switch to thief?” and we all agreed he should :p. 5 thiefs blasting on the other team and we won :p

I suspect that says something about profession balance, but it’s hard to be sure without knowing more about the other team.

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and the stupidest grown-ups who are the most grown-up.”
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Posted by: OlrunTheBlade.1486

OlrunTheBlade.1486

@Justin Character was locked for a bit, but you can swap characters mid match again. I’m not sure if it’s a bug or just an unannounced change, but you can do it.

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