Guild Wars 2

I’m guessing Warrior nerfing or Elementalist buffing will be the profession picked if left to the PvP community.

I’m personally interested in changing Mesmer so it doesn’t rely entirely on Deceptive Evasion.

PvP: What would you like to see from a League system?

A few things, like exclusive titles for the character that you’re playing, 150 leader board matches won as elementalist, thief, ect.

Unique finishers for the bracket tier you’re in, Gold finisher, Silver finisher, Diamond finisher ect

Unique weapons/gear (maybe legendary/ Ascended ) for top 2 tiers.

[PvP] -Global
Theres been a too much of a power creep last year. An interesting point was brought up by someone, that people psychologically accept buffs easier than nerfs. I hope you can gather the courage and make 2014 a nerf year.

IMO a good place to aim was spring/summer 2013. Only that instead of Incendary powder getting a nerf it became the (minimum) standard.

PVP: What would you like to see from a League system?

I would like to see lateral competition. Players that want critical spacing in skill gaps.The players competing to move up leagues/divisions. I would love to see more defined skill tiers in the game with a system like this. Titles, weapon skins, armor skins, finishers etc. All of these things could separate top tier players from your average skilled player, or a person that only plays casually.

All of these things should make the league system dynamic and very critical to playing competitively in Guild Wars 2.

Proven.2854:

I’m personally interested in changing Mesmer so it doesn’t rely entirely on Deceptive Evasion.

I play Mesmer a lot in PvP, and I’ve never used Deceptive Evasion trait, so I don’t see how they rely entirely on it..

I would just like to ask that you tone down the power creep.

First of all you would need to have some kind of real balance or as close as you can get before you would start such a thing. Otherwise the leagues would mean nothing if people are running around with easy mode builds.

Make sure skyhammer isnt involved.

Give rewards that actually matter, exclusive finsihers, gold trimmed capes (if you guys can finally bring capes back) or some kind of exlcusive armor/weapon skins.

maybe gold bonus and so more titles so people will know how well you did.

Exclusive pvp legendaries for winners should do it, that would also pull in pve crowd who would be interested enough to stick around and try to get it.

maybe exclusive emotes

ill copy and past this in the thread when it starts next week.

Also maybe give a week free pvp trial to try and get people interested after you made the change and added new modes and maps.

I would like a really good Primer, because I don’t think I actually understand the question…

PvP: What would you like to see from a League system?

I am not sure about any possible matchmaking yet, I do not like Glicko-2 though due to its rating derivation leaving too few freedom. Also divions-only matchmaking. As zone.1073 wrote below.
As for the division tiers, rewards for anyone but legendary skins for top division, ascended skins for second highest division, so we have a high incentive to get in these there. Tier-specific Finishers like the ones for WvW would be a good idea either. Maybe with a number somewhere indicating which seasons that finisher is from ?
As for other possible rewards, I am not sure. Gold Trim Capes would be nice for top teams.
But the few competitive players probably still want to be heavily recognized by many players, so work on a much bigger playerbase with the league-system too. Make this game more skill-based in PvP at least. This includes balance which may have to be completly seperate. (Sorry, a proper PvP-game needs its own focus, GW2 doesn’t have it for now it looks like)

Edit: It is hard to pin down how long seasons should last since WoW suffered from some players just rushing to a high rating at the end of the seasons. I am not sure if it is really bad, but I still want to mention it.
And yes, this is not the real CDI thread, but it can’t hurt to already have a discussion ongoing!
Oh and bring back free weekends and have them happen more often to let have people test out all the new upcoming stuff.

League will go pretty much nowhere with about 6 Teams playing.

Spectator mode of high MMR ranked games, to educate the PvP community and increase competition.

Featured game spotlight, advertised within the UI of the game itself. High MMR ranked matches will be displayed as a link in the PvP in-game menus, so players can easily find, access, and watch the games.

Quantifiable, viewable MMR.

Separate tiers or brackets in ranked games. Bronze players will only play versus bronze players, silver with only silver, gold with only gold, etc.

Removal of 8 v 8 stock custom arenas; replaced with only 5 v 5 stock custom arenas. Player-purchased custom arenas can still be set to 8 v 8 if chosen by the server owner.
Reasoning: 8 v 8 is toxic to the PvP community, as it poisons and tricks new players into developing bad habits, and also yields no improvement in skill, and doesn’t promote competition and learning.

when will a use my glory pvp armor in pve? espect for the titel

zone.1073:

Spectator mode of high MMR ranked games, to educate the PvP community and increase competition.

Featured game spotlight, advertised within the UI of the game itself. High MMR ranked matches will be displayed as a link in the PvP in-game menus, so players can easily find, access, and watch the games.

Quantifiable, viewable MMR.

Separate tiers or brackets in ranked games. Bronze players will only play versus bronze players, silver with only silver, gold with only gold, etc.

Removal of 8 v 8 stock custom arenas; replaced with only 5 v 5 stock custom arenas. Player-purchased custom arenas can still be set to 8 v 8 if chosen by the server owner.
Reasoning: 8 v 8 is toxic to the PvP community, as it poisons and tricks new players into developing bad habits, and also yields no improvement in skill, and doesn’t promote competition and learning.

^good suggestions there

Chris Whiteside.6102:

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Could you please post the results from previous CDIs. Post what you came into the CDI thinking and how, specifically, our feedback was used.

I feel this is PR. Prove to me otherwise.

felivear.1536:

Chris Whiteside.6102:

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Could you please post the results from previous CDIs. Post what you came into the CDI thinking and how, specifically, our feedback was used.

I feel this is PR. Prove to me otherwise.

Of course it is PR. Anet are stuck in a political way of doing things which is soooo 2005. This is now the transparency age and people are bored of the same old marketing techniques and political-like avoiding the questions in ALL walks of life. Game development is no different.

Why do you think they want to stream themselves play today (the devs) – it is purely for PR reasons. They want to show they know how to play to silence the doubters.

On rare occasions the community actually bands together and tells them things like; a, nerf healing signet or b, dont put diamond skin or similar things into the game or c, remove skyhammer….they dont listen. These are the big issues and some of the few issues where the response is so obvious from the community. But they ignore them and when they do their balance posts they do things like “shave” 10% off a nerf they were going to make because 1 random dude said so.

It is absurd. This CDI is 2005, I think arena-net the company is stuck in around 2005 with how they operate with respect to the community and with how they develop and market their game

the suggestion of others make me wanna puke, gold trim capes? get over gw1 already. legendary weapon skins for high tier? if you want legendary play all aspect of the game. if they implement legendary weapons achievable in pvp only i will go to anet and slap them with the box of guildwars 2 game i purchase and demand they pay me for the time i spent doing everything from map completion to getting mats and playing WvW just to get my legendary. some kitten pvp players think they intitle for everything in this game without playing the other aspect.

PVP: SEPERATE pvp skills/traits from pve GW1 style was the best pvp I’ve played in early to end of it. probably throw wvw in its own as well but not to far from it since its sort of linked with pve.
in gw1 all pvp skills had their own rules and balance for player vs player. You can not balance the two together and expect it to be fine.

PVE: fractals aka RNG hell. last run of level 32 fotm I did was fine but The unrewarding nature of it was horrblie to spend and hour in something and get few cores that could or could not be onyx or charged. The gold reward while added was nice but its under whelming to what I can do in cof path 1 in 7 mins plus few other paths in less then an hour. fotm isn’t a challenge unless one or number of the players aren’t pulling their weight it just lot of time put in to get so little in return.
dungeons add whole another one like the ones in game already or add better rewards for a lot of tokens like 1-2k tokens per an ascended armor/weapon. for now most old dungeons are ran for some easy group farming that isn’t Champion train Fotm Is avoided because higher levels take quite some time in a pug and I honoestly don’t know anyone who still does it after just getting their ascended rings and back piece
More skills/weapons(types classes getting new weapons or weapons they haven’t been able to use before and so on traits to go with them and such)

EOTM: I enjoyed it for being smaller and faster. probably captureing the garrisons provided each borderland with slight advantaged. or have supply gens to slowly give troops supply overtime like 1 supply every 5 mins upgradedable from the Camp.

Proffesions/Classes: More skills, more traits(possibly second proffesion like in gw1, and more weapon types(Greataxe, polearm, landspear/javelin, scythe DERVISH LOVE, and such).

BTW I’m terrible at grammer

Chris Whiteside.6102:

PvP: What would you like to see from a League system? – Owner- John Corpening

League system?
What happened to discussing game modes? and the talk of balance?
Are you guys just abandoning those topics?

Isn’t the point of a discussing things with the community to, well, discuss things with the community? Opening one thread per topic aiming for extremely, extremely general ideas, with no guidance at all, is not a discussion. It’s a random spew of thoughts *
‘we are reading these posts’ is not a discussion.
‘we tried that and it did not work’ is not a discussion.

Designing doesn’t stop at brainstorming, listening isn’t a discussion.
Okay?

Im confused I came back to this game after a long break to see the state of dismay SPvP is in. I thought this game was supposed to be the next big esport. Instead of talking about how the league system is how about you guys balance the current classes. Add more gametypes. I love conquest style gametypes but to have only one game mode is quite stale. Increase rewards for winning PvP 20s for 15 minutes is pretty awful. Once these things are stated then move onto the league system.

As for WvW and EoTm don’t bring anything from EoTM into WvW for people like myself who do hardcore WvW we do not enjoy EoTM at all except to get badges of Honor which for some reason are stupid easy to obtain in there.

PvE is fine where it is at balance everything else first then focus on PvE.

Lord Hammer Hand.4815:

the suggestion of others make me wanna puke, gold trim capes? get over gw1 already. legendary weapon skins for high tier? if you want legendary play all aspect of the game. if they implement legendary weapons achievable in pvp only i will go to anet and slap them with the box of guildwars 2 game i purchase and demand they pay me for the time i spent doing everything from map completion to getting mats and playing WvW just to get my legendary. some kitten pvp players think they intitle for everything in this game without playing the other aspect.

and what if we don’t like playing in pve or wvw? even if we made a legendary in these areas it seems kind of pointless if we aren’t staying to play in them.

one who isn’t a hardcore spvper won’t understand.