No way. If everyone started off on equal ranking, then the start of each season would be a complete nightmare. I started off in Silver 3, and since then have bounced around a bit, clawed my way up into gold 1 ankitten ow progressing into gold 2. I may be able to make into platinum, I may be stuck in gold. But the matches I’ve had and the journey getting there has been great and challenging. As for everyone seeing your mmr badge, just un check “show badge”. Problem solved, now nobody knows your mmr unless you tell them.
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I got placed in lowest tier gold, but I have climbed into low tier platinum and I don’t have HoT for elite spec builds. The system could definitely be better though if it took into account whether a win was a blowout or if your team barely got by.
Yes it’s true that your team often has people playing badly, but so does the other team.
THIS ! I’m also stuck in bronze hell, trying my way out which simply won’t work since I CANNOT carry an entire team, no matter which class I am playing.
I got so low in my rankings and that it is displayed for everyone in my fl or guild to see I’m utterly ashamed. I’m not a “pro” player but also not bad.
But now everyone thinks I am bad and almost no one wants to duo q with me.
This is so kittened up….. Thank you Anet for creating such a toxic environment.
And thank you for not giving us ANY statement on this.
I played more games than the “best” player of this season and I’m still in bronze.
Also I am under a friend who got 0 wins, and 9 losses.
How is this even possible? Can someone explain
This system feels so arbitrary to me….
No way. If everyone started off on equal ranking, then the start of each season would be a complete nightmare. I started off in Silver 3, and since then have bounced around a bit, clawed my way up into gold 1 ankitten ow progressing into gold 2. I may be able to make into platinum, I may be stuck in gold. But the matches I’ve had and the journey getting there has been great and challenging. As for everyone seeing your mmr badge, just un check “show badge”. Problem solved, now nobody knows your mmr unless you tell them.
Or if they just ADD YOU TO FRIENDS LIST… LOL
And as you were saying it would be a complete nightmare if you had to start off on FAIR EQUAL GROUNDS with everyone else. You pretty much indirectly said the systems is a kitten mess without even saying it. If its a nightmare for some, then everyone should have to go though it.
You don’t just join the airforce or the army, or the marines and skip basic training. Everyone regardless of their skill/intelligence/physical ability must go through the same right of passage.
The way the system is now. you just do well in placement on your DH or Warr, then smooth sailing from there.
Its like playing the game Life, and starting at the end.. DID YOU REALLY PLAY THE GAME. look the the top 10 guys, THEY HAVE HARDLY ANY GAMES PLAYED!!!!! That’s not living, that just instantly jumping to early retirement. IDK why anet is catering to these guys, like they know them on a personal basis or something.
Adding to Friend’s list hardly ever works. If you go through my post history you’ll know I have investigated that method quite thoroughly.
Also, everyone startin off at the same mmr would not be the equivalent of “FAIR EQUAL GROUNDS” as you put it. You would have players of all skill levels thrown in to matches together. Some teams would have ESL players and other teams would have first time players. Matches would be chaotikittenil everyone settled into the rank they should have started from at the beginning.
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THIS ! I’m also stuck in bronze hell, trying my way out which simply won’t work since I CANNOT carry an entire team, no matter which class I am playing.
I got so low in my rankings and that it is displayed for everyone in my fl or guild to see I’m utterly ashamed. I’m not a “pro” player but also not bad.
But now everyone thinks I am bad and almost no one wants to duo q with me.
This is so kittened up….. Thank you Anet for creating such a toxic environment.
And thank you for not giving us ANY statement on this.
I played more games than the “best” player of this season and I’m still in bronze.
Also I am under a friend who got 0 wins, and 9 losses.
How is this even possible? Can someone explain
This system feels so arbitrary to me….
This has been said numerous times but I’ll say it again. Win/Loss ratio alone does not determine rating. It matter WHO you win or lose to. If you are beating a bunch of scrubs that you outrank then you will gain rank much slower than someone that is winning matches against players above his rank.
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It was a soft reset. Nobody got boosted there by lucky 10x games and decay will purge those who dont play.
Your argument for a hard reset makes even less sense, if you forgot what it does to the “less fortunate” youre trying to defend.
Anet didnt actualy do anything new, except easily showing us their before hidden MMR numbers – AND POEPLE ARE CALLING IT THE BEST AND SAVING SEASON EVER.
If youre trolling, add more spicy memes, if youre actually serious, inform yourself better and observe the system a whole.
its all about ppl,there was same toxic ppl with same pro attitude in every season…
now,you just see that they are in 1000 mmr… and you can be assured that lowest tiers of any pvp game is allways full of pro players.
THIS ! I’m also stuck in bronze hell, trying my way out which simply won’t work since I CANNOT carry an entire team, no matter which class I am playing.
I got so low in my rankings and that it is displayed for everyone in my fl or guild to see I’m utterly ashamed. I’m not a “pro” player but also not bad.
But now everyone thinks I am bad and almost no one wants to duo q with me.
This is so kittened up….. Thank you Anet for creating such a toxic environment.
And thank you for not giving us ANY statement on this.
I played more games than the “best” player of this season and I’m still in bronze.
Also I am under a friend who got 0 wins, and 9 losses.
How is this even possible? Can someone explain
This system feels so arbitrary to me….
- A bronze player who win 8-2 vs other bronzes will climb to silver, not high plat.
- A legendary player who lost 2-8 vs other legendary players will fall to high plat, not beginner bronze.
Does this make sense to you?
Even better, you played a lot of games – showing a lot of times – that your vaulue is where it is.
The good news for you however is, that
a) youre normally underaverage, youre not an extreme outlier
b) if you improve to slighty aboveaverage levels you will rise more tahn 400+ points….a random top250 player would need to train for 100s hours to beating current top10
c) the game is 4 years old, you can learn faster, there is lots of guides and videos
d) your enemies are also bronze bad , once you improve a levle above you will roll them
Try raiding or high level fractals if you want to see elitist and condescending attitudes. It’s not the system, it’s the people.
This.
T4 fractals can be equally as toxic as anything bad I’ve ever seen in pvp. I hear raids are also as bad but I never want to set foot in a raid.
Sure there are condescending arrogant kittens in pvp who think they’re God’s gift to the game and yes it is mentally tiring to have to deal with that kind of behaviour. I block without a second thought.
Completely disagree with the OP. Raids and High level fractals is where true toxicity is in this game. When you get kicked from a team for the smallest things.
PvP leaderboards are one of the few things that are great about this season. PvP is supposed to be competitive and this helps out.
Placement rounds need to go. EVERYONE needs to start off on equal footing, at SQUARE 1. Each and every player should get equal treatment disregarding their e-sport status, or previous seasons outcomes.
This is a horrible idea and will make the season completely unplayable during the first 2-3 weeks. It will all be random, or rather even more random than now. Keep in mind that the more seasons they do, the better the initial placement will be in the future. As more and more people begin their pvp journey at the top, they won’t fight newcomers or players with lower skill levels, making the games better and better.
Never in a game have I seen more segregation between then “elites” and the “casuals”.
Sounds like you haven’t played very many multi-player games.
Sounds like you are making an uneducated incorrect inference based off of some emotional provocations.
Believe me, I’m one of the last people who will ever experience emotional provocations. I was merely stating an observation of your accidental hyperbole. As for being “uneducated” and “incorrect,” have you played CS:GO, League of Legends, World of Warcraft, Day Z, Overwatch, Dota2, or Call of Duty — and still say Gw2 has the largest segregation between casuals/elites? Because I have have played those, and from my experience the divide is much, much greater.
No way. If everyone started off on equal ranking, then the start of each season would be a complete nightmare. I started off in Silver 3, and since then have bounced around a bit, clawed my way up into gold 1 ankitten ow progressing into gold 2. I may be able to make into platinum, I may be stuck in gold. But the matches I’ve had and the journey getting there has been great and challenging. As for everyone seeing your mmr badge, just un check “show badge”. Problem solved, now nobody knows your mmr unless you tell them.
Or if they just ADD YOU TO FRIENDS LIST… LOL
And as you were saying it would be a complete nightmare if you had to start off on FAIR EQUAL GROUNDS with everyone else. You pretty much indirectly said the systems is a kitten mess without even saying it. If its a nightmare for some, then everyone should have to go though it.
You don’t just join the airforce or the army, or the marines and skip basic training. Everyone regardless of their skill/intelligence/physical ability must go through the same right of passage.
The way the system is now. you just do well in placement on your DH or Warr, then smooth sailing from there.
Its like playing the game Life, and starting at the end.. DID YOU REALLY PLAY THE GAME. look the the top 10 guys, THEY HAVE HARDLY ANY GAMES PLAYED!!!!! That’s not living, that just instantly jumping to early retirement. IDK why anet is catering to these guys, like they know them on a personal basis or something.
Your post makes no sense. Does the military reset everyone’s rank every year and make them go through basic training? Whether you choose to believe it or not they got there based on past performance plus qualifying. They have played thousands of matches, and the people I see at the top spots on the leaderboard have played plenty of matches this year.
ROFL starting at square 1 is not gonna make a difference. The good players will cimb up and the trash will drop down. The same effect will take place eventually it will just take longer
If most of the time you have more good players on your team than enemies you will climb up if its 50-50 then stagnate if most of the time you have worse players on your team than enemies you will drop rating.
Its not about your skill. Its the teams you are playing with. ( What is the skill level of your team as a whole and are able for teamplay and can pressure enemies or die fast and cant pressure/focus enemies, no teamplay ) as both situation happens in my division.
Sometimes i play with peoples know how to play the game sometimes i play with peoples don’t know how to play in the same division so i also get totally owned on necro, sometimes enemy just better even if we have focus and some teamplay ( but thats how it should be we cant always win but atleast have a good fight and not having a feeling im played in team that dont know how to pvp ) so i stagnate in full solo q but will never duo up just for rating farming as atm your rating doesn’t worth kitten other than just ego boost if you are good player you are good player also in 1v1’s if lower division player beat you 1v1 as high rated player you kitten.
Full solo q: Less chance to have more good players and teamplay in your team. Less rating
Take advantage of duo q: Chance to always have 2 good players on a team. Better rating.
You can’t just tell good players climb up its just don’t work like this. Even if you play good your win rate/your rating is up to what you have in your team most of the time. I havent see anyone yet to climb up full solo from bronze to legendary or lets say gold to legendary without duo q or abusing system and other crap.
THIS ! I’m also stuck in bronze hell, trying my way out which simply won’t work since I CANNOT carry an entire team, no matter which class I am playing.
I got so low in my rankings and that it is displayed for everyone in my fl or guild to see I’m utterly ashamed. I’m not a “pro” player but also not bad.
But now everyone thinks I am bad and almost no one wants to duo q with me.
This is so kittened up….. Thank you Anet for creating such a toxic environment.
And thank you for not giving us ANY statement on this.
I played more games than the “best” player of this season and I’m still in bronze.
Also I am under a friend who got 0 wins, and 9 losses.
How is this even possible? Can someone explain
This system feels so arbitrary to me….
This has been said numerous times but I’ll say it again. Win/Loss ratio alone does not determine rating. It matter WHO you win or lose to. If you are beating a bunch of scrubs that you outrank then you will gain rank much slower than someone that is winning matches against players above his rank.
The question then becomes, why are you queuing against scrubs or pros? Isn’t the whole point of MMR to MATCH players of similar skill? If players of similar “skill” are matched and played against each other, then WHO you lose to never really comes into effect does it kid. XD
