Guild Wars 2

Originaly it was only used when 2 thieves dueled, but can it be said to all situations now in PvP?

Not against necro, unless you can keep him perma stunned and dazed (mesmer)

Best part is, its not even as applicable.

Most classes have easy access to lots of AoE.
AoE damage is high enough to just throw it. First one to run out of endurance dies, at least if they apply condi its even easier.

though this patch will give us more build diversity and counter play?
i lost all hope.
seems an mmo without trinity will always be about dps .
it reminds me more of a shooting game than a game with melee combat and magic spells.
maybe this formula will work on their e-sports but i dont see this game being fun or healthy for a casual gamer.
im taking a huge break from the game to seek something more relative to mmorpg.

jihm.2315:

though this patch will give us more build diversity and counter play?
i lost all hope.
seems an mmo without trinity will always be about dps .
it reminds me more of a shooting game than a game with melee combat and magic spells.
maybe this formula will work on their e-sports but i dont see this game being fun or healthy for a casual gamer.
im taking a huge break from the game to seek something more relative to mmorpg.

Actually I think if damage isn’t reduced across the board, it will kill any esports possibility. At least for Conquest.

jihm.2315:

though this patch will give us more build diversity and counter play?
i lost all hope.
seems an mmo without trinity will always be about dps .
it reminds me more of a shooting game than a game with melee combat and magic spells.
maybe this formula will work on their e-sports but i dont see this game being fun or healthy for a casual gamer.
im taking a huge break from the game to seek something more relative to mmorpg.

you do realize that this pvp is more like trinity then ever before. If people are bunkers they are bunkers who might be able to support or do condi damage. If there zerk they better be good at it.

Lastly im using hammer with gs atm and im crushing people. Ive lost like 3 matches out of 15 but ok believe its not you who is missing it.

kdaddy.5431:

jihm.2315:

though this patch will give us more build diversity and counter play?
i lost all hope.
seems an mmo without trinity will always be about dps .
it reminds me more of a shooting game than a game with melee combat and magic spells.
maybe this formula will work on their e-sports but i dont see this game being fun or healthy for a casual gamer.
im taking a huge break from the game to seek something more relative to mmorpg.

you do realize that this pvp is more like trinity then ever before. If people are bunkers they are bunkers who might be able to support or do condi damage. If there zerk they better be good at it.

Lastly im using hambow with gs atm and im crushing people. Ive lost like 3 matches out of 15 but ok believe its not you who is missing it.

You can’t use hambow [hammer-bow] with GS, sorry. You just can’t.
Unless GS =/= Greatsword.

kdaddy.5431:

you do realize that this pvp is more like trinity then ever before. If people are bunkers they are bunkers who might be able to support or do condi damage. If there zerk they better be good at it.

Lastly im using hambow with gs atm and im crushing people. Ive lost like 3 matches out of 15 but ok believe its not you who is missing it.

No its not.
Despite healing being pushed with trait changes you just can’t keep up with the damage being pushed out. Healing builds are even less viable than prepatch.
Hard tank build using sentinels or similar still melt before condi builds, you can not clear fast enough, even vs 2 targets. And with those stats you have no way to counter pressure back and keep alive with active defenses, even then its hard unless you are running condis yourself.

It’s really quite simple. They introduced a significant power creep without buffing healing skills along with it.

I just don’t understand how you can buff rifle damage, improve tool belt burst damage, and add Orbital Strike without balancing the Healing Turret around these changes.

Morwath.9817:

kdaddy.5431:

jihm.2315:

though this patch will give us more build diversity and counter play?
i lost all hope.
seems an mmo without trinity will always be about dps .
it reminds me more of a shooting game than a game with melee combat and magic spells.
maybe this formula will work on their e-sports but i dont see this game being fun or healthy for a casual gamer.
im taking a huge break from the game to seek something more relative to mmorpg.

you do realize that this pvp is more like trinity then ever before. If people are bunkers they are bunkers who might be able to support or do condi damage. If there zerk they better be good at it.

Lastly im using hambow with gs atm and im crushing people. Ive lost like 3 matches out of 15 but ok believe its not you who is missing it.

You can’t use hambow [hammer-bow] with GS, sorry. You just can’t.
Unless GS =/= Greatsword.

sorry ill fix it im just so used to saying hambow cause ive been using hammer and bow for almost 3 years straight. Now is really the first time when i experiment with weapons on warrior it feels like they work like they should.

Novuake.2691:

kdaddy.5431:

you do realize that this pvp is more like trinity then ever before. If people are bunkers they are bunkers who might be able to support or do condi damage. If there zerk they better be good at it.

Lastly im using hambow with gs atm and im crushing people. Ive lost like 3 matches out of 15 but ok believe its not you who is missing it.

No its not.
Despite healing being pushed with trait changes you just can’t keep up with the damage being pushed out. Healing builds are even less viable than prepatch.
Hard tank build using sentinels or similar still melt before condi builds, you can not clear fast enough, even vs 2 targets. And with those stats you have no way to counter pressure back and keep alive with active defenses, even then its hard unless you are running condis yourself.

all i can tell you is on my bunker guardian and necro i have no problems against condi players unless there is 3-4 and im by myself but even then im lastinig over 15 sec against them. I also have a friend who uses staff ele and he said he didnt die once in 6 games.

My old necro build was 0-4-6-0-4 and i kept the same principle with the new system and the build is better. My old bunker guardian was 0-0-2-6-6 and i kept it the same and it works exactly the same as before and on this build i actually didnt change any sigils/runes/ammy.

My guild mate made a bunker warrior with shouts and banner and he said its working great. No obviously these 3 builds are using condi as there way to do dmg but for the most part the ele/war/guardian are all playing support roles which would be the trinity system as healers/tanks. Heck today i had spirit guardians on my team today and we went 4-1. They used spirit weapons!!!!!!!!!!