Guild Wars 2

How am i like 25-12 including about 20-5 in my last 25 games and yet my mmr is below my friends who are 6-7?

Just because i was trolling my placement games now i have to grind like 100 games to get my mmr to my skill level because i gain 10 points per win.

Some sort of alteration is needed to make it so your most recent games have higher impact on mmr than older games.

I hate to say it but they do. I did 5-5 yesterday with an initial MMR of 267 and I placed at t3 silver. Hiro (Talgo) who had 221 or 241 something went 7-3 on the placements and landed at gold.

Yeah I had to grind my way up from bottom of gold to plat over like 60 games. What a waste of time and I’m worried on the last few days some people are just going to 9-1/10-0 snipe the top 250 positions like that :/

I posted here my considerations and suggestions

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/terrible-experience-in-new-system/first#post6433482

I think this is one of the points broken in this season.

I experienced a bunch of teams that liked to, well, not work as teams during my placement games and ended up with a low MMR as a result.

The loot is greatly improved, as is the queue. I would say some class balance issues aside, the way placement works is the only real problem with this season.

Lordrosicky.5813:

How am i like 25-12 including about 20-5 in my last 25 games and yet my mmr is below my friends who are 6-7?

Just because i was trolling my placement games now i have to grind like 100 games to get my mmr to my skill level because i gain 10 points per win.

Some sort of alteration is needed to make it so your most recent games have higher impact on mmr than older games.

Sounds like you got what you deserved tbh. :P

Yeap, this happened to me.

I was too excited to try out the new fresh air ele….just in case you were wondering….its really bad.

Now I am stuck in an MMR where people just suicide in 2s at mid and my team-mates have no idea how to play. Its impossible to dig out from here b/c MMR doesn’t change much with matches, even on long win or loss streaks.

Gonna have to just use a smurf account to play with actually competent players.

BlackBeard.2873:

Yeap, this happened to me.

I was too excited to try out the new fresh air ele….just in case you were wondering….its really bad.

Now I am stuck in an MMR where people just suicide in 2s at mid and my team-mates have no idea how to play. Its impossible to dig out from here b/c MMR doesn’t change much with matches, even on long win or loss streaks.

The placement matches were BS, I had matches that the teammates are absolutely horrible. 4v5s, AFKs, and this was used to land at your division? Lol.

BlackBeard.2873:

Yeap, this happened to me.

I was too excited to try out the new fresh air ele….just in case you were wondering….its really bad.

Now I am stuck in an MMR where people just suicide in 2s at mid and my team-mates have no idea how to play. Its impossible to dig out from here b/c MMR doesn’t change much with matches, even on long win or loss streaks.

Gonna have to just use a smurf account to play with actually competent players.

yeah its impossible to test build in unranked.

I took my warrior build into unranked before the season and i was crushing, season started and its below average.

I did the same thing with my necro build. Thankfully i only lost 2 games in ranked because of my poor builds on warrior and necro.

kdaddy.5431:

BlackBeard.2873:

Yeap, this happened to me.

I was too excited to try out the new fresh air ele….just in case you were wondering….its really bad.

Now I am stuck in an MMR where people just suicide in 2s at mid and my team-mates have no idea how to play. Its impossible to dig out from here b/c MMR doesn’t change much with matches, even on long win or loss streaks.

Gonna have to just use a smurf account to play with actually competent players.

yeah its impossible to test build in unranked.

I took my warrior build into unranked before the season and i was crushing, season started and its below average.

I did the same thing with my necro build. Thankfully i only lost 2 games in ranked because of my poor builds on warrior and necro.

Yea, fresh air is unranked viable only, not for ranked, at least gold+.

The most important class is thief in gold, I am finding. Team with the best of most theives just steamrolls due to the insane mobility and burst. They can 1v1 pretty well most classes, can always get away if not, and are the best +1. Without revenant to keep them in check, thieves run wild.

People coming in late in the season need to be unable to rank into the top slots solely by placement. Start their decay even if they have placed.

BlackBeard.2873:

kdaddy.5431:

BlackBeard.2873:

Yeap, this happened to me.

I was too excited to try out the new fresh air ele….just in case you were wondering….its really bad.

Now I am stuck in an MMR where people just suicide in 2s at mid and my team-mates have no idea how to play. Its impossible to dig out from here b/c MMR doesn’t change much with matches, even on long win or loss streaks.

Gonna have to just use a smurf account to play with actually competent players.

yeah its impossible to test build in unranked.

I took my warrior build into unranked before the season and i was crushing, season started and its below average.

I did the same thing with my necro build. Thankfully i only lost 2 games in ranked because of my poor builds on warrior and necro.

Yea, fresh air is unranked viable only, not for ranked, at least gold+.

The most important class is thief in gold, I am finding. Team with the best of most theives just steamrolls due to the insane mobility and burst. They can 1v1 pretty well most classes, can always get away if not, and are the best +1. Without revenant to keep them in check, thieves run wild.

I understand what you are saying.

I was in a match where we had 2 necro 2 eles and a thief. The thief went far and lost to a mesmer. Our other ele switched to mesmer and then beat that same mesmer at far. The thief went on to lose to a staff ele at home.

I have also had matches where people didnt play traditional roles. Like 1 game i was ele and we had 2 thieves and 2 DH. The 2 thieves stayed in the zerg fights and 1 of the DH was sitting on the outside cap points winning 1 vs 1.

I understand what you are saying, people have to be good at there roles.

Somehow today I had 2 thieves on my team and both died within 5 seconds. Somehow they managed to rush far that fast and get themselves ganked impossibly fast. Before the match they fought about who would swap yet neither did. Then they called the team junk for dieing 2v4 at mid. Still won the match due to a DC on the other team.

Point is a good thief is invaluable. Not these yolo heros, a bad thief drags the team down so far it becomes hard to carry the match.

i made the mistake to soloq every placement match which made every game pure random. i had always top stats, yet i ended up 4-6 (1 dc included). now im stuck in bronze hell where players are trio capping close at the beginning of the match (no joke).
meanwhile i have at least like a 60 % win-loss-ratio but the climb is really slow.

I’m currently 3W 5L on placements, keep getting the same types of idiots, 2- and 3- thief teams almost every match, nobody swaps, teammates eat AOE spam and wipe in an instant, poor rotations goes without saying. I’ve never considered myself an elite player, but placement this season is gonna be a joke. Probably sit this season out.

fishball.7204:

Yeah I had to grind my way up from bottom of gold to plat over like 60 games. What a waste of time and I’m worried on the last few days some people are just going to 9-1/10-0 snipe the top 250 positions like that :/

No5 NA is 9-1

Paulytnz.7619:

Lordrosicky.5813:

How am i like 25-12 including about 20-5 in my last 25 games and yet my mmr is below my friends who are 6-7?

Just because i was trolling my placement games now i have to grind like 100 games to get my mmr to my skill level because i gain 10 points per win.

Some sort of alteration is needed to make it so your most recent games have higher impact on mmr than older games.

Sounds like you got what you deserved tbh. :P

Maybe. But the system is flawed. What should happen is that your most recent 10 or 20 games should count for more towards your mmr changes and old games should count less the longer away they were.

For example if you start 0-10 then go on a 50 match win streak then the system needs to realise you are rated incorrectly. To do this you can simply make it so that the last 20 games count for alot with respect to your mmr. So anyone on a long winning run will start to get large mmr jumps, and vice versa for a long losing streak.

Otherwise the whole system is pointless as it isnt accurate at all.