You belong there. A tier system like the game has now isn’t there so everyone will hit legendary just by grinding. If you are “stuck” in a division where your games go 50/50 you belong there. The sense behind a tier system is that you should get into a division where you get matched against people your skill and win/lose 50% of your matches. You aren’t stuck in ruby – you belong in ruby. You aren’t stuck in sapphire – you belong in sapphire. I don’t understand how this can be so hard to understand.
You belong there. A tier system like the game has now isn’t there so everyone will hit legendary just by grinding. If you are “stuck” in a division where your games go 50/50 you belong there. The sense behind a tier system is that you should get into a division where you get matched against people your skill and win/lose 50% of your matches. You aren’t stuck in ruby – you belong in ruby. You aren’t stuck in sapphire – you belong in sapphire. I don’t understand how this can be so hard to understand.
if the game is design to 50% all match than all ppl would be stuck in ruby as it is the first tier in which you can lose points. so the +2 pips when you have tripple win is base on luck on your 3rd game.
if the design was to put ppl where they are than you should see for first tier and second also losing pips and the match making wouldnt count on MMR .
The problem here is you can get to ruby with grind/luck. After that you are stuck in ruby with a very low winrate because you didn’t belong in ruby but can’t lose league. So please anet change the system and let people go down in the league they belong.
Ouh come on guys be real , if u cant get past ruby ur just bad i`m thief i play lol builds and i`m diamond with my average skills which means i`m terrible at this game.
People are just greedy and want the rewards thats actually all. If they remove rewards it will stop crying on forum.
But on other hand there is a huge problem with putting a newbies and pros in the same division. If this would not happen it will also stop crying.
If you get 50/50 the matchmaking is fine. If you get carried to ruby or other division and can’t get out with too long lose streak you don’t belong there, nuff said.
decent troll thread, 7/10, loses few points due to lack of originality.
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You belong there. A tier system like the game has now isn’t there so everyone will hit legendary just by grinding. If you are “stuck” in a division where your games go 50/50 you belong there. The sense behind a tier system is that you should get into a division where you get matched against people your skill and win/lose 50% of your matches. You aren’t stuck in ruby – you belong in ruby. You aren’t stuck in sapphire – you belong in sapphire. I don’t understand how this can be so hard to understand.
I don’t understand how you cannot listen to what people are saying. People are losing and being stuck with players below their own skill level and are being stuck playing against entire teams of as higher mmr across long streaks of matches because the system doesn’t mm match enemies and a players mmr has become distorted to such an extent that it doesn’t reflect their skill level.
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Ouh come on guys be real , if u cant get past ruby ur just bad
The legendary backpack has brought many none PvPers to PvP which thought they could easily earn the backpack. Now they complain that they can’t win any matches and can’t move to higher leagues.
The system is flawed because:
1.) Soloq and premade is mixed. Premade on com is the power, rest victims.
2.) Your MMR and thus pairing is 80% depended on others not your competence.
Early win/loose streaks has to much impact on your follow up games. There are players in saphire and ruby that are worse then some emerald players and unlucky ones crawling to saphire despite being much better. the will reach ruby but their mmr alone would make it a pain to advance in solo Q.
You belong there. A tier system like the game has now isn’t there so everyone will hit legendary just by grinding. If you are “stuck” in a division where your games go 50/50 you belong there. The sense behind a tier system is that you should get into a division where you get matched against people your skill and win/lose 50% of your matches. You aren’t stuck in ruby – you belong in ruby. You aren’t stuck in sapphire – you belong in sapphire. I don’t understand how this can be so hard to understand.
You are wrong, i have 3 accounts, 2 of them in diamond, 1 of them in legendary, the thing is about this system, it is really, really dependent on your win loss ratio, your skill means something just to the certain extent, more of a class does and people who can/cannot use the tools and opportunities you give them, i qued purely solo.
System works more like this, you win in a row, you get team mates who can peel for you, support you, or use the opportunities of mesmer/thief on the map. You loose in a row you get team mates who don’t do the above mentioned. And you have to do everything above mentioned, which will lead to a win ? Maybe once twice but then. I m not even talking about team comps when you know it’s over from a start most of the times.
I did see it all. Thiefs that were a hell of fun to watch moving around winning the match and then some that moved nearly headless like there is no minimap… all in saphire.
I came very well to saphire, then there was one eavening i paired with a friend but it was quite unlucky loosing like 10 matches mostly very close … After this one eavening i have it extreamly hard to make three wins in a row in solo Q .
Adding that dumb suggestion with “division loss” will literally and hands down be the death of PvP. As is, most players will get their wings next season. If you make that a pain to get (MORE THEN IT ALREADY IS), trust me, you queues after these season will be 50 minutes long…because literaly no one will play it. So all you elitists will just go back to complaining how dead your broken game mode is.
It will be glorious. Instead of attracting more players to PvP in order to make the population better, you will push everyone away
1.) Soloq and premade is mixed. Premade on com is the power, rest victims.
If that’s true, mind to explain to me why the win rate of five solo players is above 50% against five-person premades?
Only 1% of all Ranked matches played in season one were a full five-person premade group vs. a group of five solo players, and even then, the win rate for those five solo player teams in those cases was consistently at or above 50% throughout the entire season.
You belong there. A tier system like the game has now isn’t there so everyone will hit legendary just by grinding. If you are “stuck” in a division where your games go 50/50 you belong there. The sense behind a tier system is that you should get into a division where you get matched against people your skill and win/lose 50% of your matches. You aren’t stuck in ruby – you belong in ruby. You aren’t stuck in sapphire – you belong in sapphire. I don’t understand how this can be so hard to understand.
You are wrong, i have 3 accounts, 2 of them in diamond, 1 of them in legendary, the thing is about this system, it is really, really dependent on your win loss ratio, your skill means something just to the certain extent, more of a class does and people who can/cannot use the tools and opportunities you give them, i qued purely solo.
System works more like this, you win in a row, you get team mates who can peel for you, support you, or use the opportunities of mesmer/thief on the map. You loose in a row you get team mates who don’t do the above mentioned. And you have to do everything above mentioned, which will lead to a win ? Maybe once twice but then. I m not even talking about team comps when you know it’s over from a start most of the times.
Pretty much it. if mmr is working then yes where you are = your skill level. I’m pretty sure mmr doesn’t reflect skill. Based on my personal experience o getting stuck in low sapphire for over a week then after a break win streaked my way to t6 ruby. Same player , same class .
1.) Soloq and premade is mixed. Premade on com is the power, rest victims.
If that’s true, mind to explain to me why the win rate of five solo players is above 50% against five-person premades?
Only 1% of all Ranked matches played in season one were a full five-person premade group vs. a group of five solo players, and even then, the win rate for those five solo player teams in those cases was consistently at or above 50% throughout the entire season.
When they said pre-made, they were not referring to just a full five person team. You can do fairly well with four members who can coordinate together compared to randoms.
1.) Soloq and premade is mixed. Premade on com is the power, rest victims.
If that’s true, mind to explain to me why the win rate of five solo players is above 50% against five-person premades?
Only 1% of all Ranked matches played in season one were a full five-person premade group vs. a group of five solo players, and even then, the win rate for those five solo player teams in those cases was consistently at or above 50% throughout the entire season.
I did beat 5 player premades in solo Q myself. There are guilds runing teams either not on com or because the are just online and play as a guild. I expect only a few full premades are with a planed composition regulary playing as a team. I did it myself building a random premade with people i met. Of course this is quite diffrent. Premade is not premade. I met one of 4 on com that were trained and the diffrence is not a gap it´s a casm …
Maybe you should stop looking on metabattle and the current state of “meta” and create own oppinoin not based on what’s written somewhere. Good player will be always better than bad player no matter what class is he rolling. Just accept you are all bad and stop crying that you cant progress somewhere where you don’t belong.
I’ve seen quite a few very good thiefs that knew how to do their job. Thiefs honestly, atm, are ok and balanced in PvP..it’s all down to the player.
Warriors?…myeaaaaaah…..i won’t comment.
I’ve seen some good thieves too.
And I’ve seen some really, really bad ones, which made me as a thief look really, really good. Which is saying something, cause I’m awful at thief. (No not teefing in the same game, just relatively speaking.)
The same goes for warriors. Some good, some bad. Even if they aren’t in the best place right now.
And of course, it depends on what you’re up against too.
Don’t look at me like that. Whatever you’ve heard, it’s probably not true.
HA HA HA HA!~ I don’t play any of that ‘meta’ poo.
Sure not infuenced by the bunker meta if you said the warriors and thief dont belong there, because they are constructed on different playstyle than bunkering. . Your IQ is low or you just don’t know what are you saing.
Yes, there are quite good Thieves and Warriors but, they’re few and far between. The majority of the time, they hold a team back, or get carried, which gets highly irritating.
If you’re stuck in a division with a 50% winrate you’re probably right where you belong. No theorycrafting needed. If you’re in a division where you lose 90% of your matches then something’s off.
Off topic: warriors have their use vs. necros and eles in teamfights, I rerolled warr over meta scrapper when I faced 3 necros, 1 of those necros simply couldn’t get a spell off >:)
Welp… I play a guardian and this is my only character, I like my guardian and I play it well.
I play a non-meta build for greater challange. It was truly fun to go through 3 divs but I gave up on ruby due to 3 reasons:
1. For unknown reason, recently (since few days) I get high lag spikes that make me a free kill in matches so I decided not to play until this gets fixed in my town.
2. Due to first reason I just got lazy. Plus in the first place I just wanted to hit sapphire and ended up in ruby so that is fine by me.
3. And last but not least, I am not a grinding machine. There is stuff that needs to be done outside of the game.
I guess I could hit diamond and perhaps legendary but first I need to play other classes and learn how to counter them better, and get a better gear so that my performance could get better… yet I’ll never touch meta, tis’ for scrubs.
Any class can get carried. There are even too many bad necros srappers and so on
It’s not about the class most of the players like you think there is on way how to play pvp and thats the bunkering. They don’t came up with a idea that the thief acually has to be played different way. Generally you are beig paired with stupid people which don’t know what to play with their class. The issue it’s not about the class as itself.
HA HA HA HA!~ I don’t play any of that ‘meta’ poo.
Sure not infuenced by the bunker meta if you said the warriors and thief dont belong there, because they are constructed on different playstyle than bunkering. . Your IQ is low or you just don’t know what are you saing.
YOLO doesn’t help a team win, not hard to understand that. Warriors and Thieves have a “selfish” skill set, which means they just go do there own thing, dying fast and giving nothing back. QQ
People have to understand meta classes, not just play them. A single revenant isn’t OP, a revenant paired with a heal/support ele hower is pretty OP. Same goes for warriors, with proper support they tear kitten to pieces in ways you can’t always imagine.
A lot of poeple whine about thieves, while they don’t know how to play with a thief in their team. I often see the slowest char in the game decap shrines while the thief is mad because someone stole his job.
A warrior can shut a character down in a teamfight, I fail to see how that’s selfish, a thief relieves pressure from the team by decapping and +1.
Any class can get carried. There are even too many bad necros srappers and so on
It’s not about the class most of the players like you think there is on way how to play pvp and thats the bunkering. They don’t came up with a idea that the thief acually has to be played different way. Generally you are beig paired with stupid people which don’t know what to play with their class. The issue it’s not about the class as itself.
That made me lol, now tell me how is necro should be played.
With the way the league works at the moment, you can never truly belong in a division. The only thing that decides where you ‘belong’ is by how much you play. I am what most would call stuck in diamond right now, but I know that I will make it to legendary eventually because I play at least 15 games every single day of the season. The sheer amount of games I am playing is what will carry me to legendary, not my skill because I definitely do not belong in legendary division based on my skill.
This is even more true for divisions up to sapphire- you can be by far the worst player to ever buy GW2 and you WILL get to Ruby at the very least if you play enough because it is literally impossible to not gain 5 pips every so often and then have that progress protected. Nobody ‘belongs’ in any particular division.
What if the system works that way:
There is no wining streak. You get an extra pip when you win against a higher MMR team.
That was the System in s1. Also you lost 2 pips if a team with lower MMR did beat you.
I like both Systems. But for this now i would suggest to set the winningstreak higher (after 5 games and not 3). It won’t make a big different for good players.
I don’t know why people think its wrong or sign of a problem that the largest amount of people will end up being stuck in Ruby. That’s how it’s supposed to be. Diamond and Legendary are meant for the top 10-20% at most. If you can’t make it to at least Ruby I am sorry but your terrible.
