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The soloq experience is horrific.
You’re the first person to make a thread like this
if you are solo queuing, you arent facing premades that often. the map is very snowbally and it can feel like you are facing a premade if they manage to kill you 1-2 at a time and always create 3-4 v 5 situations due to the map size and respawn/nudge mechanics.
what you need is a better teamfighting or wvw roaming build, not a conquest build.
head here to discuss wvw without fear of infractions
and tell your team mates to wait for back up , if someone else Recently died close to your death , then other players should learn to avoid 3vs5 situations and start using mobility aka WvW / team fighting builds untill those two respawn and leave the spawn cap together .
other words don’t go alone its dangerous take a player with you.
of course if your getting farmed at the spawn gate flipping wait and use a Different exit swiftly and try not to get noticed.
yep it sucks, dont like being forced to queue with people. Team pvp is much different then solo, you cant merge them together the solo players just get punished.
Justin basically turned off matchmaking until next Tuesday. It should get better then.
More precisely, it should get better after the 16th and during peak hours. In the off hours the matchmaking will generally be “off” to speed up the queues, just as it is this weekend so far.
I faced the same premade team of 5 people twice, despite losing against them, and against the team I faced between them. This matchmaking sucks.
Every team I have ever played against in ranked pvp has been premade all rank 80 most of them in sparkly glorious hero armor, and all of them in the top 5 on the leaderboards, this was even when we had soloq.
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Every team I have ever played against in ranked pvp has been premade all rank 80 most of them in sparkly glorious hero armor, and all of them in the top 5 on the leaderboards, this was even when we had soloq.
Clearly you must be awesome if you won games.
Well maybe if we get a 1000 post thread about how everyone hates courtyard (except the 1 person who always choses it and makes it pop), it will get removed by next december.
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Aeeneaa – 80 Ele
Well maybe if we get a 1000 post thread about how everyone hates courtyard (except the 1 person who always choses it and makes it pop), it will get removed by next december.
No, I’m pretty sure they’ll remove the thread before then.
delicate, brick-like subtlety.
Every team I have ever played against in ranked pvp has been premade all rank 80 most of them in sparkly glorious hero armor, and all of them in the top 5 on the leaderboards, this was even when we had soloq.
Clearly you must be awesome if you won games.
My girlfriend (lefty) and my side B (righty) tell me the same thing everynight
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I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
This is pretty horrendous. You can’t even choose between what you want: getting trashed by premades or kittenty maps. There’s always some idiot that votes for the worst maps. The possibilities are always there. It’s like Anet want to make their PvP worse with every update.
It’s also great that the sole determining factor for participation is STILL the kittening useless score. Get farmed 0 500 in Courtyard? Sorry, you were afk. You get nothing. Get paired up with a high level premade? Sorry, you didn’t play the game.
This is so amazingly bad I don’t even.
Well maybe if we get a 1000 post thread about how everyone hates courtyard (except the 1 person who always choses it and makes it pop), it will get removed by next december.
Unlikely. Look at all the threads taking about how horrible Skyhammer is. So what does ANET do? They decide to force it upon people in ranked queue. I don’t know who is making these types of decisions, but they certainly have lost touch with the playerbase.
Well if they won’t listen to players posting about there problems on the forums, maybe they will listen if players refuse to play. So I haven’t logged in all weekend, and on tuesday I’ll check the forums to see if matchmaking is fixed or not. Though I have my doubts for off hour play which I play in, I am getting the feeling that spvp is ruined permanently for me now. Being forced to Team Q when I play at 3 to 6 am NA time routinely is a crock, forming teams at that time can take up to an hour.
Christ, I got TWO FULL TEAMS one right after the other. What are a bunch of PUGS supposed to do against FULL TEAMS? Our score is 47 to 500. Is this your idea of a fun pvp match?
I know what’s going on with matchmaking. That doesn’t mean what’s going on was a good idea.
Can confirm, queueing into premades solo. This is pretty kittened and I hope it ends soon.
It’s interesting how many people complain without reading for five minutes to find out what’s going on with the matchmaking.
Let’s see what happens. Sadly ANet are balancing two things: matchmaking and queue times.
The problem is always going to be that good premade teams don’t have enough opposition (particularly if they avoid each other deliberately) and so after a certain point the lambs will always get thrown to the wolves.
When they tried to improve matchmaking to avoid unsuitable match-ups the queue times for the better teams became too long. Hard to see how that will change.
Personally I think matchmaking should be the priority. I have no interest in 1/3 of games being scrubs due to bad match-up which they are right now. I am happy to wait in PvE until a decent match comes up. And if teams are not able to wait then they should think about going solo. If they don’t want to do that then they have to be prepared to wait – can’t have it both ways.
Haven’t played for like half a year come back 4v5 aren’t happening as much but in place of that it’s just premades stomping solo queue players…
6 to 500. Such an awesome game. Totally fun, anet. I just barely got contribution, so it wasn’t a complete waste of time. I love total blow out matches.
And when solo qr’s stop playing how will they fix the q’s then? Since it’s obviouis that team q is propped up by the solo players that are getting facerolled and complaining.
And yet another useless thread full of people who don’t read other threads first. ALL “crap” (old Solo Q) maps will be removed on the 16th. We are in between seasons and nothing you do right now matters anyway. Matchmaking is turned off right now until the 16th as well. If you can’t handle a couple weeks of crap, then wait it out 1 more day for all the changes to take place. 100’s of threads made on the same subjects that don’t even matter; because these things you hate are only in place for 2 weeks.
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I was having a pretty decent time soloQing until I consistently ran into premades groups over the weekend. And really it wasn’t so bad except that it seems I’m still being grouped with players who don’t get the game mode, and in that situation having 1 or 2 people who cant really contribute is all the difference. I had 6 games vs full premades teams just yesterday, and only 1 game with a 3 man team on my side as a solo player.
I really think full teams need to wait longer and play each other, and some change to rewards for facing a premades should be considered. It’s definitely has the capacity to be less fun even than it used to be. This was why I mostly played SoloQ instead of soloing into teamQ.
Personally, I suspect that the game design team has decided to favor teams.
That’s why they prioritized the matching for teams to not have very long queue times.
The combat system and the maps are designed for coordinated teams. They are hoping for ESports, and you have to have teams for that, not solo players.
Justin O’Dell is the person who just happens to be the guy that physically sets the matchmaking parameters. But he does what his entire team decides. And I think his team has decided to set the matchmaking to favor people grouping and teaming when the queues are small.
Only at peak playing time when the queues are full of a variety of MMR skills, will the solo people now find a good match (because the matchmaking will be more strict).
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Problem aren’t preamdes, but fact that rankeds are filled with loads of clueless people who doesn’t focus marked targets, fight in middle of nowhere, leave points alone after cap, pursit full hp bunker specs instead of reviving allys etc etc… So yeah, many games are just leave worthy.
Also Courtyard is 1000x better than any terrible Conquest map, finaly something going in right direction (GW1?), I would rather have 6 Coutyards in que and 1 Conquest map instead of 6 Conquest:1 Coutyard
kitten esports that train as left the station a year a ago.
And yet another useless thread full of people who don’t read other threads first. ALL “crap” (old Solo Q) maps will be removed on the 16th. We are in between seasons and nothing you do right now matters anyway. Matchmaking is turned off right now until the 16th as well. If you can’t handle a couple weeks of crap, then wait it out 1 more day for all the changes to take place. 100’s of threads made on the same subjects that don’t even matter; because these things you hate are only in place for 2 weeks.
Perhaps, making us hate something for 2 weeks is a bad idea?
And yet another useless thread full of people who don’t read other threads first. ALL “crap” (old Solo Q) maps will be removed on the 16th. We are in between seasons and nothing you do right now matters anyway. Matchmaking is turned off right now until the 16th as well. If you can’t handle a couple weeks of crap, then wait it out 1 more day for all the changes to take place. 100’s of threads made on the same subjects that don’t even matter; because these things you hate are only in place for 2 weeks.
Just trying to figure out if this is ironic or not?
If you had read the other threads perhaps you would understand the problem.
The problem is not that matchmaking is turned off and suddenly on the 16th all will be well in the GW world.
The problem is competing agendas. Balanced games and wait times.
Once you have read the other threads and have a more meaningful contribution please come back and share some more wisdom.
I’ve been on plenty of pugs that have beaten decent premades, had a pug the other day and we took out Teef Teef Teef Teefs team pretty handedly. I really don’t think the matchmaking is as bad as everyone says.
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I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
I’ve been on plenty of pugs that have beaten decent premades, had a pug the other day and we took out Teef Teef Teef Teefs team pretty handedly. I really don’t think the matchmaking is as bad as everyone says.
I’ve had some good matches but I’ve had some pretty terribly bad matches too. Definitely getting matched in ranked play with people who don’t PvP, matched against premades, etc. I’ve had some really great matches to your point, but I also had some downright awful ones. Hopefully the new matchmaking makes the difference.
Everyone realizes the matchmaking will get better in time right? Once a larger sample size is there and some tweak have been been made it will get better =)
S P E E D Starr #0 Necro NA or
I Am NeXeD awful d/D ele NA
And yet another useless thread full of people who don’t read other threads first. ALL “crap” (old Solo Q) maps will be removed on the 16th. We are in between seasons and nothing you do right now matters anyway. Matchmaking is turned off right now until the 16th as well. If you can’t handle a couple weeks of crap, then wait it out 1 more day for all the changes to take place. 100’s of threads made on the same subjects that don’t even matter; because these things you hate are only in place for 2 weeks.
Just trying to figure out if this is ironic or not?
If you had read the other threads perhaps you would understand the problem.
The problem is not that matchmaking is turned off and suddenly on the 16th all will be well in the GW world.
The problem is competing agendas. Balanced games and wait times.
Once you have read the other threads and have a more meaningful contribution please come back and share some more wisdom.
Besides the fact that you have NO IDEA what it will be like; fine or broken, all these posts are a waste. Once the changes ACTUALLY go into effect, then you can test and complain/ congratulate. They said it has all was turned off and therefore broken on “purpose” until launch. You have no idea what the wait times will be or if it will be balanced BECASUE IT WASN’T LAUNCHED YET. That’s like saying the Cake tastes horrible while you are mixing the ingredients into the bowl still. Wait for it to be finished, then make your remarks, good or bad. Your point is invalid.
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And yet another useless thread full of people who don’t read other threads first. ALL “crap” (old Solo Q) maps will be removed on the 16th. We are in between seasons and nothing you do right now matters anyway. Matchmaking is turned off right now until the 16th as well. If you can’t handle a couple weeks of crap, then wait it out 1 more day for all the changes to take place. 100’s of threads made on the same subjects that don’t even matter; because these things you hate are only in place for 2 weeks.
Just trying to figure out if this is ironic or not?
If you had read the other threads perhaps you would understand the problem.
The problem is not that matchmaking is turned off and suddenly on the 16th all will be well in the GW world.
The problem is competing agendas. Balanced games and wait times.
Once you have read the other threads and have a more meaningful contribution please come back and share some more wisdom.
Besides the fact that you have NO IDEA what it will be like; fine or broken, all these posts are a waste. Once the changes ACTUALLY go into effect, then you can test and complain/ congratulate. They said it has all was turned off and therefore broken on “purpose” until launch. You have no idea what the wait times will be or if it will be balanced BECASUE IT WASN’T LAUNCHED YET. That’s like saying the Cake tastes horrible while you are mixing the ingredients into the bowl still. Wait for it to be finished, then make your remarks, good or bad. Your point is invalid.
You going to admit you are wrong in a few weeks when its obvious solo q is a horrific experience?
In a game this size having insta pops will inevitably lead to failed matchmaking. It is just simple maths.
And they can’t make queues longer because they won’t let people leave the heart of the mists. Or leave their PC whilst waiting for a queue pop.
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[Team] Best WvW guild of all time. EASILY.
And yet another useless thread full of people who don’t read other threads first. ALL “crap” (old Solo Q) maps will be removed on the 16th. We are in between seasons and nothing you do right now matters anyway. Matchmaking is turned off right now until the 16th as well. If you can’t handle a couple weeks of crap, then wait it out 1 more day for all the changes to take place. 100’s of threads made on the same subjects that don’t even matter; because these things you hate are only in place for 2 weeks.
Just trying to figure out if this is ironic or not?
If you had read the other threads perhaps you would understand the problem.
The problem is not that matchmaking is turned off and suddenly on the 16th all will be well in the GW world.
The problem is competing agendas. Balanced games and wait times.
Once you have read the other threads and have a more meaningful contribution please come back and share some more wisdom.
Besides the fact that you have NO IDEA what it will be like; fine or broken, all these posts are a waste. Once the changes ACTUALLY go into effect, then you can test and complain/ congratulate. They said it has all was turned off and therefore broken on “purpose” until launch. You have no idea what the wait times will be or if it will be balanced BECASUE IT WASN’T LAUNCHED YET. That’s like saying the Cake tastes horrible while you are mixing the ingredients into the bowl still. Wait for it to be finished, then make your remarks, good or bad. Your point is invalid.
They increased the average queue time goal, so I would say all of these posts served a valid purpose.