Guild Wars 2

Mammoth.1975:

I told you why conquest fails. I used your post and Diages post as examples. You’re the one translating that into ‘conquest isn’t bad’ I’m afraid.

Once again, you should have followed that link. It’s pretty tongue in cheek but I genuinely believe they need to dumb this game down a lot to help certain players. Team death match is the most casual friendly format there is, I fully support it.

What does this have to do with anything??? You are trying to tell me why conquest fails, when I don’t care since it has nothing to do with my thread. What is wrong with you?

Aza.2105:

Arganthium.5638:

Aza.2105:

Arganthium.5638:

I don’t think they have those spreadsheets.

Why? Because I’ve developed those same spreadsheets that you’re talking about and, even if they have developed them, I also know the limitations of those spreadsheets, and just how far their usefulness extends. I also know from experience that it takes quite the bit of creativity to even come up with the base idea for the spreadsheets. Either way, I (attempted) to send Allie my spreadsheets the a few days. I still have yet to get a response.

Yeah I’m sure it does take creativity.

Curious to know about the spreadsheets you made btw.

Well, what do you want to know?

Just a summary.

Basically, I look at different stats and compare how they increase the amount of damage you do or how long you can survive relative to base- in other words, if I have 100 power, I might do 10% more damage than if I was just a thief with normal armor but no traits, runes, ammies, etc.

I mean, that’s the general gist of it.

Aza.2105:

You are trying to tell me why conquest fails, when I don’t care since it has nothing to do with my thread.

Maybe you shouldn’t have repeatedly brought up conquest then.
You should also talk more about how anet doesn’t play their game.
Did you even mention anything else in the OP? Some crap about more transparent communication? The problem with that is telling your customers they need to stop being so kittening stupid and L2P before you can find mutual ground for a conversation isn’t real good PR, but that’s all they can do to half the loaded questions they get.

Example:
Player: Herpadurp conquest bad, everyone in circle, big bright flashes, someone die, me no know how.
Anet: Maybe if you knew how to play it, that wouldn’t happen and you’d enjoy it more.
Player: OMG you no say bad thing to me I R CUSTOMER!

Mammoth.1975:

Aza.2105:

You are trying to tell me why conquest fails, when I don’t care since it has nothing to do with my thread.

Maybe you shouldn’t have repeatedly brought up conquest then.
You should also talk more about how anet doesn’t play their game.
Did you even mention anything else in the OP? Some crap about more transparent communication? The problem with that is telling your customers they need to stop being so kittening stupid and L2P before you can find mutual ground for a conversation isn’t real good PR, but that’s all they can do to half the loaded questions they get.

Example:
Player: Herpadurp conquest bad, everyone in circle, big bright flashes, someone die, me no know how.
Anet: Maybe if you knew how to play it, that wouldn’t happen and you’d enjoy it more.
Player: OMG you no say bad thing to me I R CUSTOMER!

If you read my OP it has nothing to do with playing conquest. What I did write was how difficult (read the next part, its important for you) conquest mode is to watch. WATCH not play but watch. Get it? As watching a stream of a pvp tournament.

But what you did was try to take my post and turn it into your crusade to point out bad players in conquest. But if you could read you would see it had nothing to do with that. But you continued to pressure the fact that it did. Perhaps with others in the thread they started to mention up conquest being bad. But I did not.

In fact, I think I already said conquest is cool. However its at odds without the game plays from a observation point of view. The mode exists so its easy for observers to follow. This is true. But when you take into consideration how every class is aoe oriented, the game is heavy with particle effects and summons, then it makes it more difficult to watch. Why?

Because conquest ensures that all the action occurs on the nodes. Thats why I said the mode itself works against what anet wants to happen. That it makes it more difficult to watch since everyone will fight in and around the node. It makes it near impossible for a observer to see who died and what happened. Do you understand?

You said its bad to watch because everyone has to get on point. You’re wrong. Get it?

Mammoth.1975:

You said its bad to watch because everyone has to get on point. You’re wrong. Get it?

Where did I say its bad to watch because everyone has to get on the point?

Aza.2105:

What the conquest mode does is intensify this. How? It puts everyone in a small circle (the capture point), were they just spam skills.

Mammoth.1975:

Aza.2105:

What the conquest mode does is intensify this. How? It puts everyone in a small circle (the capture point), were they just spam skills.

I don’t see me saying bad. Where is it?

Really?

Aza.2105:

In fact, it only makes things more difficult. With the current design, gw2 is very difficult to follow.
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What the conquest mode does is intensify this. How? It puts everyone in a small circle (the capture point), were they just spam skills.

It’s getting to the point where you’re beginning to sound like a small child responding with ‘why?’ to every answer.

Q: OP.
A: Public Test Realm

Mammoth.1975:

Really?

Aza.2105:

In fact, it only makes things more difficult. With the current design, gw2 is very difficult to follow.
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What the conquest mode does is intensify this. How? It puts everyone in a small circle (the capture point), were they just spam skills.

It’s getting to the point where you’re beginning to sound like a small child responding with ‘why?’ to every answer.

You have selective reading.

So is the meaning bad and difficult the same for you? Also, you still have to show me where I say "You said its bad to watch because everyone has to get on point. ".

Stof.9584:

Q: OP.
A: Public Test Realm

Its strange why they don’t have a PTR.

Aza.2105:

You have selective reading.

So is the meaning bad and difficult the same for you? Also, you still have to show me where I say "You said its bad to watch because everyone has to get on point. ".

Haha yeah sorry for conflating those two, you were actually talking about how awesome GW2 is to watch right?

Mammoth.1975:

Aza.2105:

You have selective reading.

So is the meaning bad and difficult the same for you? Also, you still have to show me where I say "You said its bad to watch because everyone has to get on point. ".

Haha yeah sorry for conflating those two, you were actually talking about how awesome GW2 is to watch right?

Bad and difficult mean entirely different things. Here let me show you:

bad

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bad

difficult

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/difficult

No, I understand, I apologise! Now tell me how you really meant ‘good’ when you said ‘difficult’.

Mammoth.1975:

No, I understand, I apologise! Now tell me how you really meant ‘good’ when you said ‘difficult’.

How can I answer a question that has to do with your limited usage and understanding of vocabulary?

Well, were you implying that it’s fine as is, or that it should be more difficult to watch? Because you weren’t saying it’s bad as is right?

Mammoth.1975:

Well, were you implying that it’s fine as is, or that it should be more difficult to watch? Because you weren’t saying it’s bad as is right?

Are you asking me to help you with your literacy problems?

Mammoth.1975:

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Mammoth, you’ve posted enough in this thread. Unless someone else starts posting something worth your time here, I think you’d be more useful elsewhere. Thanks for the perspective and well made points.

Mammoth.1975:

Conquest doesn’t work because players are stupid. End of story.

So MOBAs don’t work either? Because I’ve encountered plenty of players that are beyond stupid in that game-type.

tichorum.2415:

Mammoth.1975:

Conquest doesn’t work because players are stupid. End of story.

So MOBAs don’t work either? Because I’ve encountered plenty of players that are beyond stupid in that game-type.

Different game modes are easier to play. That’s why we need deathmatch.