Guild Wars 2

The S/d ele got buffed in this patch. No nerfs and yet:

Arc Lightning skill: Now strikes enemies that it passes through.

No nerfs.

And in fact it got passive mega buff by nerfing quickness which was a way to actually kill an ele before he healed to full.

Also rip epidemic. Was good knowing you.

A-Net don´t know what to do. Fact!

They slightly buffed the dps ele. Maybe this will encourage quiting bunker op builds?

you forgot the haste nerf. now goodbye to thieves shotting eles.
THIS is a lot more serious: now the ele should be a complete moron if he gets bursted down.

Mrbig.8019:

you forgot the haste nerf. now goodbye to thieves shotting eles.
THIS is a lot more serious: now the ele should be a complete moron if he gets bursted down.

Ye. Warrior is now utterly useless. But at least they have banners. Eles dont even have to worry about hasted thieves now. They are truely unkillable.

O and thanks for making epidemic useless

This game is now a pve game. FACT.

Rerroll.9083:

They slightly buffed the dps ele. Maybe this will encourage quiting bunker op builds?

Why? they did nothing to nerf the op builds. In fact they are mega buffed with the haste/quickness nerf. Such epic fail patch. Worst patch I have ever seen balance wise.

and still no changes to bunkers or AoE which they have been talking about adjusting for months

Sprawl.3891:

and still no changes to bunkers or AoE which they have been talking about adjusting for months

No dude. They buffed bunkers by nerfing quickness.

thieves and warriors were “fine” only thanks to haste.
now warriors are utterly useless, and thieves are “crap tier”.
AH FORGOT, ELES ELES EVERYWHERE

Ele are op, nerfs the two worst pvp classes of the game.

Guess i’ll pve/wvw for a month, not even worth stepping inside pvp at this point.

The Epidemic nerf hurts, but it does not make the ability “useless.” You guys are being melodramatic.

Nerfing burst is good for the game in the long term, even if it will require further adjustments to thieves and warriors down the line.

I do agree that the lack of changes to elementalists is getting ridiculous, though. When are the nerfs finally going to come?

Burst nerf is good. If I wanted to die in a couple of seconds if somebody got lucky with a combo I would be playing a trash pvp game like Age of Conan. It is unfortunate how Elementalist continue to skate by however. AoE and Bunkering still op as well.

Lopez.7369:

The Epidemic nerf hurts, but it does not make the ability “useless.” You guys are being melodramatic.

Nerfing burst is good for the game in the long term, even if it will require further adjustments to thieves and warriors down the line.

I do agree that the lack of changes to elementalists is getting ridiculous, though. When are the nerfs finally going to come?

no dude, we’re not being melodramatic, it’s reality.
how am I supposed to kill a bunker now ? (and I’m not referring to eles only).

this patch is crazy, YOU CAN’T NERF BURST WITHOUT NERFING BUNKERING AT THE SAME TIME, especially when bunkers are so powerful and dominant, and even more when bunker eles are SO OP IT’S DISGUSTING.

no pvp for me till next patch, or at least till I got bored killing PvE scrubs in WvW

Mrbig.8019:

Lopez.7369:

The Epidemic nerf hurts, but it does not make the ability “useless.” You guys are being melodramatic.

Nerfing burst is good for the game in the long term, even if it will require further adjustments to thieves and warriors down the line.

I do agree that the lack of changes to elementalists is getting ridiculous, though. When are the nerfs finally going to come?

no dude, we’re not being melodramatic, it’s reality.
how am I supposed to kill a bunker now ? (and I’m not referring to eles only).

this patch is crazy, YOU CAN’T NERF BURST WITHOUT NERFING BUNKERING AT THE SAME TIME, especially when bunkers are so powerful and dominant, and even more when bunker eles are SO OP ITS DISGUSTING.

no pvp for me till next patch, or at least till I got bored killing PvE scrubs in WvW

Yup. This is the worst patch in the history of patches. I didnt think they were this stupid but they are. RIP Gw2

The sole reason why Ele play bunker, is no one likes being 1-2 shot in 1-2 seconds, which happens due to how crap most of the other traits are for Ele.

This may make it so more players can now try something other then bunkering down.

Quit whinging, enjoy the change.

P.S. I do agree Anet are clueless though

How anyone could have thought Quickness at 100% was anything but ridiculous is a mystery… Moving it to 50% is a good adjustment.

However Eles are ridiculous (especially in regard to far point), was watching Teldo’s stream, every team they faced had between 1 and 3 eles on it…

If we are getting custom arenas, we can just host private tournies with ele, thief and warrior banned! Then we can get pretty nice balance actually.

it wouldnt be a normal day without an ele whine topic from lordrosicky ..

Radamanth.9048:

it wouldnt be a normal day without an ele whine topic from lordrosicky ..

Just voicing the opinion of anyone who plays tournaments above a mediocre level. Even eles think the ele is way OP…..even more so now sigh.

The problem is they arent working on separating PVE/PVP. Which they learnt(or atleast i thought they did) that was the only way to balance in gw1.

They cant suddenly give a big buff to warriors when all you have in PVE right now is 4 warrior cof groups and ‘LF2M heavy prefered’ in anything else.
So we have both broken pve and pvp instead..

I don’t think you have anything to worry about with arc lightning. It does like no damage.

Minion of Vey.4398:

I don’t think you have anything to worry about with arc lightning. It does like no damage.

It is still an improvement. There are still no nerfs. And they nerfed the hasted thief which is one of the few ways to punish an elementalist from over extending.

The elementalist is in an exceptional position right now. It is more powerful than it has ever been.

I wouldn’t really call this a buff, but it isn’t a nerf and other classes did get nerfed. Eles are long overdue to be placed on an even playing field rather than being the clear top class.

The quickness nerf means that the next patch leaves room for toning down bunkers without the huge backlash it would have caused this patch. It’s frustrating having the changes be so slow though..

Leuca.5732:

The quickness nerf means that the next patch leaves room for toning down bunkers without the huge backlash it would have caused this patch. It’s frustrating having the changes be so slow though..

You’ll just get
A) D/P Backstabbed with Assassin’s Signet.
B) D/P Backstabbed with Haste.
Only the haste part is a little slower.

Haste needed to be nerfed. It is outrageous that it took them so long.
But to not nerf the Ele in any way just shows how utterly useless the Devs are. Nerfing burst left and right while leaving Bunkers as they are, not to mention that Eles are the most OP class that ever made it into a MMO is just insane and stupid in every way.
So now its either PvE or getting a new game. Anet should shake hands with Mythic, incompetent when it comes to balance sa well.

Iago.5874:

Haste needed to be nerfed. It is outrageous that it took them so long.
But to not nerf the Ele in any way just shows how utterly useless the Devs are. Nerfing burst left and right while leaving Bunkers as they are, not to mention that Eles are the most OP class that ever made it into a MMO is just insane and stupid in every way.
So now its either PvE or getting a new game. Anet should shake hands with Mythic, incompetent when it comes to balance sa well.

What they’re trying to do is be careful and slow with game changes, but this was a little too slow for my liking.

Sigh… I am so tired of these posts. Please TRY to post constructively next time. Please try make a working burst ele that lasts for more than 2 seconds and post your suggestions to improvement while posting your suggestions to bunker ele nerf. Next time I wont even bother reading OPs post completely and just report for flaming if these keep happening.

Really they need to learn how to execute a multistage balancing approach. Sure nerfing quickness is good for the long term once other changes go through. But that’s exactly it, such a change needs to be supported by other changes.

Honestly their slow and steady philosophy to balance is just slow, not steady. When your only adjusting one thing that is going to affect the meta, especially like the quickness nerf there are going to be large repercussions. Not taking these into account is not steady.

Lordrosicky.5813:

punish over extending.

If you could please expand on the concept of over extending in gw2, that’d be appreciated.
The way i see it, with circular objectives and aoe ridden combat, there are two positions – in the mess and out of the mess.

Minion of Vey.4398:

I don’t think you have anything to worry about with arc lightning. It does like no damage.

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Nobody plays S/D ele anyways, except for a select few. Its good that they are making other ele builds more play worthy.

Oh noes arc lightning can hit more people now! Call the police 5x eles teams are coming! Really that changed nothing, i was actually expecting buffs on the staff department but nothing new really, where engis got a ton lot of changes =(

Feel that OP ele damage on a 3 second channel.

I would trade this crap for mesmer sword #1 any day of the week.