Guild Wars 2

I watched the Dev preview on twitch and they mentioned that Pistol #2, Body Shot, will now immobolize. Why is this even needed? I can’t think of how this will benefit PvP in any form other than a troll build.

For starter, you either have to do P/P or P/D. Neither of those are good because one sets relies on a heavy stealth build while the other set get wreck by retal. So why did you do this? For PvE? This I can see, this would be awesome for PvE. For WvW? No…please no. You just made the P/D troll build even stronger.

In the future, would you please take into consideration all 3 game modes? This change is decent for PvE but not needed. Useless in PvP and God aweful OP in WvW for P/D roamers.

makes p/x much more viable, and a well timed immob can be gamebreaking with the right burst, it will make a p/p hotjoin build very cool.

everyone knows getting immob vs a zerg = death.

It can be used in Spvp to stop people who leaps right? that could be fairly strong against warriors! not so much against rangers whos leaps dodges aswell though..

I kinda agree with you i guess !

Spammable, duration stacking immobilize that can land an initial shot from stealth…

Sounds balanced!

/facepalm

Better be a super short base duration or this will get ugly.

Sounds like a great way to keep a guardian off a point….
Guardian one knocks guardian two off point, Thief Immobilize spams for 5 seconds.

P/d Sbow new meta.

Darnis.4056:

Sounds like a great way to keep a guardian off a point….
Guardian one knocks guardian two off point, Thief Immobilize spams for 5 seconds.

P/d Sbow new meta.

Scorpion wire and do it yourself.

Course the other guard will just condi-cleanse/dodge/block/etc.

Still don’t see it justifying P/P.
See plenty of opportunity for P/D though.
Will have to play with it though.

You might very well see people forego the SB off set for a pistol MH in some comps that won’t be hurt by losing the ranged AoE spam. Immobilize lock could be a legit kill strategy in a lot of different comps that have difficult to land, long cast high impact skills. Power/Well Necro coupled with a thief for immobilize assists (not to mention even more Vulnerability stacking) is an easy example of something that this patch makes more dangerous.

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671:

Better be a super short base duration or this will get ugly.

I think you can spam-lock for 5s before you’re out of init. Not sure, can I get confirmation or is it 5s per use?

We will have to wait and see what comes of this.

Body Shot was a pretty useless ability before and now it’s a little more worth-while. It gives Pistol builds something else to blow Initiative on rather than just Cloak and Dagger. But we have to wait and see if this really elevated Pistol Mainhand.

I’m skeptical…..but open-minded.

What this does highlight though is just how redundant Venoms currently are.

Darnis.4056:

Sounds like a great way to keep a guardian off a point….
Guardian one knocks guardian two off point, Thief Immobilize spams for 5 seconds.

P/d Sbow new meta.

Yea, sounds like meta to waste all your initiative just to spam 1s immobs 3×. How you got 5s from that, I’m not sure. It’s 1s immobs, 4 ini each, 15ini max when traited.

Amaterasu.6280:

Darnis.4056:

Sounds like a great way to keep a guardian off a point….
Guardian one knocks guardian two off point, Thief Immobilize spams for 5 seconds.

P/d Sbow new meta.

Yea, sounds like meta to waste all your initiative just to spam 1s immobs 3×. How you got 5s from that, I’m not sure. It’s 1s immobs, 4 ini each, 15ini max when traited.

It’s almost like you cant get extra initiative by stealing or have a bigger initiative pool..or regen initiative naturally.

Nor can you switch to shortbow for an extra 2s immob.
Or Run devourer venom, or have venom share or have multiple venoms.. or any of that..

why would i spend 4 initiative for 1 sec imob when i could spend ini for unload or interupt.

i love my p/p thief it is fun, but they could do better than that.