Guild Wars 2

Thieves are one of the best classes in every form of pvp. No other class can kill quickly and escape their own demise as well. This class is simply broken in pvp

Elite Tournament PVP: Every team has an S/D or S/P thief (which subsequently made mesmers useless)

Regular Tournament PVP: Thieves are very abundant

Hotjoin PVP: Thieves are the most abundant class, barring perhaps a FOTM class like necromancer

1on1 PVP: Thieves with the proper spec can beat any and every other class in a 1on1 duel.

Bring this class in line with other classes, please. PVP needs some balance.

Let me correct you, 1vs1 is not PvP, neither is hotjoin.
Not every team has a S/D thief in top tier tournaments (they either have none, which doesn’t really happen atm, or they use D/P).

I don’t say, thief isn’t annoying or too strong – it sure as hell requires some balancing/polishing but… problem lays as deep as class design and this is not an easy thing to overcome.
So in the end I wouldn’t count on any proper balancing – thieves will either be non-existent or too powerful.

PVP means player vs player.

1on1 is a form of player vs player
Hotjoin is a form of player vs player
Tpvp is a form of player vs player
Monopoly is player vs player
Chess is player vs player

I think you are the one that does not know what player vs player means.

play a thief in pvp and come say that again ….

That’s funny, a rank 50 S/D thief today told me that, as a necro, I was everything wrong with PvP. This was after I won a 2v1 vs. him and his necro buddy.

Necro is OP
Mesmer is OP
Thief is OP
Ranger is OP
Engineer is OP
Warrior is OP
Elementalist is OP

I find thief as not the most feared opponent but the most coward hiding in the looooong duration stealth. I beated even two thieves with my warrior. My warrior is high sustain warrior with condi dmg while the thieves stabbed me and ran which isn’t enough to kill me because of my regeneration and while they were on stealth my conditions ticket over them.

The only real counter to my build is condition transfer necromancer. I cannot kill it and it surely can burst my 27-28k hp warrior in matter of seconds -_- It’s because I was stupid enough to add all my conditions on him because I thought I could block the condition transfer which I couldn’t do thanks to the necro trait which I think is a bit OP.

Well anyways I find thieves as trash

Feel free to challenge me in a duel. Try to whisper ingame to Leo Frost. I play as warrior.

Conan.8046:

Necro is OP
Mesmer is OP
Thief is OP
Ranger is OP
Engineer is OP
Warrior is OP
Elementalist is OP

You play a guardian, right?
:P

I agree, this games PvP would be much more fun if thieves were not playable. A friend of mine who is quite new to the game, made a thief for PvP having no clue what the best builds are or anything… And ran solo spamming 2 and was very accomplished, a class that can deal massive damage, get out of any situation with perma stealth, surprise attack you with perma stealth, and the skill in playing a thief is who can press 2 the quickest.. And thieves are not my counter, I am not saying this because I don’t know how to play against them… And in WvW it is even worse.. You are unable to play any form of a glass cannon build with thieves just using their elite stun thing and then pressing 2 like a madman…

They absolutely ruin this game ^^

TERraTRIIx.3194:

I agree, this games PvP would be much more fun if thieves were not playable. A friend of mine who is quite new to the game, made a thief for PvP having no clue what the best builds are or anything… And ran solo spamming 2 and was very accomplished, a class that can deal massive damage, get out of any situation with perma stealth, surprise attack you with perma stealth, and the skill in playing a thief is who can press 2 the quickest.. And thieves are not my counter, I am not saying this because I don’t know how to play against them… And in WvW it is even worse.. You are unable to play any form of a glass cannon build with thieves just using their elite stun thing and then pressing 2 like a madman…

They absolutely ruin this game ^^

This sums up pretty much every inexperienced player’s thoughts on thieves.

If you or anyone think that thieves get very far just spamming 2, then you are playing at a very low tier level…thats all I gotta say.

Conan.8046:

Necro is OP
Mesmer is OP
Thief is OP
Ranger is OP
Engineer is OP
Warrior is OP
Elementalist is OP

Oh stop you <3, my face is all red here).

To the OP, Spamming Thief with the player has no idea what they are doing is one of the easiest thing to kill. You simply lack of experience how to deal with thief. That is all. My advice is to look over in thief sub-forum, there are plenty of advice there how to beat thief. Good thief is hard to kill, I admit but they deserve it. They go through quite a bit of hardship to achieve that level, I don’t see any reason to stop them from hard working.

Disclaimer: I play Eles and Engineer,though my first is a Thief. Thanks to my high ping, I could not play it effectively in PvP which is very essential for thief’s survival.

Thieves are bleesed with power dmg builds..Other than this Thieves are fine….

balance is best right now ever since game was released – every further balancing step should be VERY well thought out (edit: xcept ranger – spirits are kittened to play/not fun and aoe prot is op – also the spirit ranger elite is VERYYYYYY strong)

personally i dont feel thieves are OP in terms of fighting. I just think that their INSANE mobility is over the top for backcaps (or vertical mnobility where needed)

TBH the worst thing about thieves is when I get them on my team. The good ones are so few and far between, it’s almost always a wasted spot.

Play a guardian and poop on thieves.