Guild Wars 2

Not just you didn’t nerf thieves, but you buff them. Thieves already 1 shot glass cannon builds and maybe 2 shot ‘normal’ non glass cannon builds, but now you just added a completely overpowered mesmer trait which gives them a HUGE amount of stacks of mights, which they can now share with their thief friend, allowing them to pretty much 1 hit anything regardless the spec, good job.

Yeah this buff was simply atrocious. Can anyone confirm if this is broken? kittenmesmers were borderline op and I was hoping for some nerfs actually

the mightstacking thing is likely arenanets idea of compensating the fact that not only will most mesmers start running focus but they also hit several phantasms.

They went overboard though.

mesmers have been overpowered for a very long time and this just puts them in an even better spot than ever before. A mesmer shatter combo was doing the damage of Cloak & Dagger + Backstab in AoE, it is now doing more than that. Enjoy. (you forgot that they improved the vuln stacks aswell my dear!!)

I guess we gotta start killing the clones now or die

With is the mesmer’s trait that give HUGE stacks of might? And how mesmer can share it with others?

I believe it’s a bug. A trait that gives 9 stacks of might is ridiculous when compared to everything else. The devs probably only wanted to tive it 3 stacks, as it’s the normal amount to be expect from those kind of traits, but at the moment it gives 3 stacks per illusion.

It gives 3 stacks per illusion with a sort of cooldown, if illusions shatter at the same time you get 3 stacks, if they shatter one after an other, you get 9.

DiogoSilva.7089:

I believe it’s a bug. A trait that gives 9 stacks of might is ridiculous when compared to everything else. The devs probably only wanted to tive it 3 stacks, as it’s the normal amount to be expect from those kind of traits, but at the moment it gives 3 stacks per illusion.

Putting this thread to rest.

1- You have to spec 25 points into Illusions, this is not all mesmers.
2- IF you are spec’d into it you get a 3 stack of might per illusion you shatter.
3- @Nerva – You should be killing the illusions anyways, not doing so you should expect to die
4- In order to share it with others Mesmers have to use one of their Utility skills for that single purpose.

5- If your going to complain about something, please understand it fully before making a thread. You are giving people false information in which the people who don’t know the correct information feed off it like wildfire and it never ends. This is the way it is.

Trigr.6481:

DiogoSilva.7089:

I believe it’s a bug. A trait that gives 9 stacks of might is ridiculous when compared to everything else. The devs probably only wanted to tive it 3 stacks, as it’s the normal amount to be expect from those kind of traits, but at the moment it gives 3 stacks per illusion.

Putting this thread to rest.

1- You have to spec 25 points into Illusions, this is not all mesmers.
2- IF you are spec’d into it you get a 3 stack of might per illusion you shatter.
3- @Nerva – You should be killing the illusions anyways, not doing so you should expect to die
4- In order to share it with others Mesmers have to use one of their Utility skills for that single purpose.

5- If your going to complain about something, please understand it fully before making a thread. You are giving people false information in which the people who don’t know the correct information feed off it like wildfire and it never ends. This is the way it is.

In high level pvp literally every single mesmer plays shatter. Phantasm is absolutely worthless teamfightwise and Shantasm is just an inferior(albeit easier to play) verison of shatter

Trigr.6481:

DiogoSilva.7089:

I believe it’s a bug. A trait that gives 9 stacks of might is ridiculous when compared to everything else. The devs probably only wanted to tive it 3 stacks, as it’s the normal amount to be expect from those kind of traits, but at the moment it gives 3 stacks per illusion.

Putting this thread to rest.

1- You have to spec 25 points into Illusions, this is not all mesmers.
2- IF you are spec’d into it you get a 3 stack of might per illusion you shatter.
3- @Nerva – You should be killing the illusions anyways, not doing so you should expect to die
4- In order to share it with others Mesmers have to use one of their Utility skills for that single purpose.

5- If your going to complain about something, please understand it fully before making a thread. You are giving people false information in which the people who don’t know the correct information feed off it like wildfire and it never ends. This is the way it is.

Mesmer did not need more synergy or damage. They got a large buff to both.

That is the point. And that is ridiculous.

almost every mesmer on pvp have 30 points on illusion trait

Mesmers have always been good at bursting in spvp, giving them suddenly 9 stacks of might for 10s is crazy. Especially considering how fast some of them can spam clones, and considering that there exist 4 shatter skills. You can pretty much gain 10-20 stacks with a good boon build thanks to a single trait.

I wonder if these patches get play tested before release?

Been spvping to play with my Engi and Sigils all day. The longer the day goes on, the more Mesmers with massive stacks of might, there are on each server.

What are you guys talking about???? mesmer’s get counterd sooo hard by assult guardians/trap rangers/necromancer pretty much every condition. kitten when will you people learn how to play your damn classes……. In P-TPvP mesmers are balanced now! finally! and btw our illusions are naked and just stand there in turnies.

What about 100b warrior/ backstab thief? you complain about 9 might stacks. Do you guys realize that the shatter damage wont be affect by those might stacks? You get the might stacks after you burst meaning it just gives mesmers like 10% more sustained damage.

Get off spvp zerg servers and play some paid tournaments……

FuVirus.6398:

What are you guys talking about???? mesmer’s get counterd sooo hard by assult guardians/trap rangers/necromancer pretty much every condition. kitten when will you people learn how to play your damn classes……. In P-TPvP mesmers are balanced now! finally! and btw our illusions are naked and just stand there in turnies.

What about 100b warrior/ backstab thief? you complain about 9 might stacks. Do you guys realize that the shatter damage wont be affect by those might stacks? You get the might stacks after you burst meaning it just gives mesmers like 10% more sustained damage.

Get off spvp zerg servers and play some paid tournaments……

No one plays paids. No one plays broken competitive PvP because of broken mechanics like this. Mesmer was already extreme burst, now they are extreme burst + 9 stacks of might, and they can also give to those stacks HB warrior and BS thieves making them OP + 9 stacks too.

Your entire argument is null.

Double OP is Double Stupid in competitive PvP. The point is to create competition based on player skill, not broken OP mechanics and pigeon hole team builds.

FuVirus.6398:

What are you guys talking about???? mesmer’s get counterd sooo hard by assult guardians/trap rangers/necromancer pretty much every condition. kitten when will you people learn how to play your damn classes……. In P-TPvP mesmers are balanced now! finally! and btw our illusions are naked and just stand there in turnies.

Are you trying to imply that mesmers have been the poor, underused profession until now, and that an overpowered trait is what is needed for them to see play?

You can get 9 stacks of might even by using something like Distortion, create a few more more clones, burst with Mind Wrack and end with 18 stacks, and finally spread those 18 stacks of might to your party. It’s an interesting build, certainly, but it’s still too much for a single trait.

FuVirus.6398:

What are you guys talking about???? mesmer’s get counterd sooo hard by assult guardians/trap rangers/necromancer pretty much every condition. kitten when will you people learn how to play your damn classes……. In P-TPvP mesmers are balanced now! finally! and btw our illusions are naked and just stand there in turnies.

What about 100b warrior/ backstab thief? you complain about 9 might stacks. Do you guys realize that the shatter damage wont be affect by those might stacks? You get the might stacks after you burst meaning it just gives mesmers like 10% more sustained damage.

Get off spvp zerg servers and play some paid tournaments……

I don’t know how you set up your burst, but I do it after I’ve shattered diversion and then MI/Decoy Mindwrack. That’s vulnerability and might stacks

Visionary.5681:

I wonder if these patches get play tested before release?

Been spvping to play with my Engi and Sigils all day. The longer the day goes on, the more Mesmers with massive stacks of might, there are on each server.

I highly doubt it … they are vastly understaffed after all. Arenanet is seriously a joke when it comes to “balancing” this game. I’d put them on the same level of WoW, because at this point sPvP is definitely starting to seem more like an afterthought what with how much effort they put into PvE and new content for them … and … we get bland … or kitten maps with no true balance such as Raid on the Capricorn for PvP.

Yeah … pretty sure they don’t actually test the balance of this trash. I’d suggest they get something like a PTR for balancing purposes but … again, vastly understaffed and well … I just don’t see it happening.

But I do see crappy … ill-thought out patches like yesterdays happening and I’m not going to log into the game until the next sub-par … craptastic patch. XD

I would like to view a video, it’s max length should be approx 20-26 sec. The video should show a mesmer w/o illusion up, and also not in fight at the start of it. The opponent.. since i see to much bs here around, shouldn’t be a static target, willing to easly die or either naked with 25 stack of vulnerability . Also: the video must be at least in 720p, with high grapichs detail.

I just stick with my group when it comes to these professions it’s kind of hard to fight them solo as a con warrior. Sometimes I can beat them and sometimes I can’t, but sticking with a good team eases the frustration.

Brutalistik.6473:

I just stick with my group when it comes to these professions it’s kind of hard to fight them solo as a con warrior. Sometimes I can beat them and sometimes I can’t, but sticking with a good team eases the frustration.

Too bad there is no mechanism for players to find teams to play with. Then this would great advice because it is true. Teamplay > Rambo every time.

FuVirus.6398:

What are you guys talking about???? mesmer’s get counterd sooo hard by assult guardians/trap rangers/necromancer pretty much every condition. kitten when will you people learn how to play your damn classes……. In P-TPvP mesmers are balanced now! finally! and btw our illusions are naked and just stand there in turnies.

What about 100b warrior/ backstab thief? you complain about 9 might stacks. Do you guys realize that the shatter damage wont be affect by those might stacks? You get the might stacks after you burst meaning it just gives mesmers like 10% more sustained damage.

Get off spvp zerg servers and play some paid tournaments……

’’mesmer’s get counterd sooo hard by assult guardian’’
No, stop shattering on shelter. Furthermore, dps guard is a very obscure pick because it falls off extremely in teamfights.

‘’trap rangers/necromancer pretty much every condition.’’
This is a 5vs5 game. Your teammates will fix the condi removal. If not, go nullfield. It’ll make me matchup in your favor vs necro.

‘’kitten when will you people learn how to play your damn classes……. ’’
I don’t know, maybe when you learn how to win easily winnable 1v1s vs some other classes?

‘’In P-TPvP mesmers are balanced now! finally! and btw our illusions are naked and just stand there in turnies.’’
I completely agree. Nevermind the fact that Mesmer has been a must have since the Beta and still are with the only good team I know of that doesnt use mesmer is Devils inside (and I also think they are gimping themselves by not using the Mesmer).
The naked clone thing is a bug. Did you just play one paid tournament and seriously thought that’s a feature?

‘’What about 100b warrior’’ No clue. Supersquad and the aformentioned Devils inside are the only teams that really use warriors on a high level in my recent experience, they’re extremely easy to shut down. What about them?

‘’you complain about 9 might stacks. Do you guys realize that the shatter damage wont be affect by those might stacks? You get the might stacks after you burst meaning it just gives mesmers like 10% more sustained damage. ’’

In a prolonged fight I usually wind up normally being on ~18 mightstacks. The 10 seconds is easily enough to get a mindwrack off with mightstacks (if you daze or perhaps use cry of frusteration you’ll still get the stacks y,know.
11k mindwracks are fun.

‘’Get off spvp zerg servers and play some paid tournaments……’’

150 QP in USA is something to get high and mighty about?

Oni.5429:

150 QP in USA is something to get high and mighty about?

Are you losing any “Qualifying Points” by dieing or losing the round? if not, well sorry to shatter your ego but, nope.. they are not something to get high and mighty.

Tekla, that guy is 150 point QP in us, I’m not :]

Oni.5429:

Tekla, that guy is 150 point QP in us, I’m not :]

ah, sorry <.<
I had a quick view of the post, it seems i didn’t grasp it.

Yesterday macro mesmers were killing me much much faster than a day ago. I can attest to this buffage being insanely good for mesmers! Ouchie many butt cuts were dealt. Didn’t lose the games tho

Just so you all know, not sure if its happening on EU but theres like 4 or 5 mesmers on NA who have macros that do instantaneous 9 clone shatters. It’s beyond me but its giving mesmers instant 25 stacks

Powerr.3649:

Yesterday macro mesmers were killing me much much faster than a day ago. I can attest to this buffage being insanely good for mesmers! Ouchie many butt cuts were dealt. Didn’t lose the games tho

Just so you all know, not sure if its happening on EU but theres like 4 or 5 mesmers on NA who have macros that do instantaneous 9 clone shatters. It’s beyond me but its giving mesmers instant 25 stacks

I could get 21 stacks of might before this patch. “Instant” eh? That’s laughable. People need to learn to know what you have to spec in order to get a high stack of might. Not every mesmer has this handed to them. Also, mouse macros are entirely a different story. My friend used to play a warrior and tied all his cd’s with hundred blades in a push of a button. This will soon be forgotten, and it should be to be quite honest.

i’ll make a video, give me till the end of the night on NA