Guild Wars 2

I wouldn’t be surprised if anet lost all respect for its players.

This is just a repetition of the time when Rangers got buffed, only on a bigger scale…

I do say, I am amused personally, I hope that Anet can smile as well

A lot of players have lost all respect for them so it would be mutual

Once leagues are set into motion and everyone’s actual level of skill being apparent to the world at large, they’ll realize its them, not the game…..

I wonder why top level players don’t come here often (cept for chaithh, that kitten. Y U STELA MINSTERL FROM US MENG).

Or they’ll still cry.

Anet respects their players? Last time a checked Grouch and Hugh fanboy the abjured in an awkward attempt to fit in, while the others simply don’t talk to anyone.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Once leagues are set into motion and everyone’s actual level of skill being apparent to the world at large, they’ll realize its them, not the game…..

Except there are some cases where it is the game.. There is buggy stuff with The Mallyx trait line and some weapon skills for the rev..

The Mallyx GM trait.. A kitten grand master tait that’s copy’s condis to players hasn’t worked since the release of HOT. Not bugged, just flat out doesn’t work.

It would be huge if I can copy condis to an enemy team when a necro corrupts my boons without using any energy.

Knowing that a bug that should of been fixed, is holding my build/play style back rather then personal skill gives me every right to complain.

But you understand that a majority of complaints aren’t bug related?

welcome to GW2, where if you’re good people cry about you until you arent, then mysteriously shut up when they benefit from a balance patch.

It is the game. History will tell you that much. :P Every time a new patch comes out it gets thrown out of whack.! haha! But its both the game and the players. Every time a patch comes out players have to adjust to the changes to find out what works and what doesn’t work, so yeah, some people are just dumb for running the same things when new builds are available, but then again, we don’t want everyone to be REQUIRED to run overpowered stuff, or there would be no diversity in gameplay! So its up to the Community and ANet both to balance it after every patch!

SlayerSixx.5763:

But you understand that a majority of complaints aren’t bug related?

I know, I’m just sharing my frustration that these bugs may exist when leagues start

Azure The Heartless.3261:

welcome to GW2, where if you’re good people cry about you until you arent, then mysteriously shut up when they benefit from a balance patch.

Which would mean you never was good?

Greek.4396:

SlayerSixx.5763:

But you understand that a majority of complaints aren’t bug related?

I know, I’m just sharing my frustration that these bugs may exist when leagues start

Then frustrate away. Apparently, ANET has been hunting bugs, but it seems they’re only interested in PvE related ones.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Greek.4396:

SlayerSixx.5763:

But you understand that a majority of complaints aren’t bug related?

I know, I’m just sharing my frustration that these bugs may exist when leagues start

Then frustrate away. Apparently, ANET has been hunting bugs, but it seems they’re only interested in PvE related ones.

What?

You mean that Mid-Air immobilize does not happen in PvE? :O

It might, but not that big of a deal there since its PvE :P. We should have the PvErs cry about DH traps. Watch the nerfs flyyyyyyyy in.

Give me a break. What’s more logical: A-net launched a bunch of new content and its all not properly balanced or A-net launched a bunch of new content and its all perfectly fine the way it is. You can’t honestly tell me its the later. And its not a knock of A-net I’ve been playing MMORPGs for close to 15 years every time a big expansion or content patch is released there are always things that need to be fixed/balanced its just impossible to balance things until the full player base knocks around at everything for a couple of weeks. Stop being internet tough guys you are not impressing anyone over the age of 15.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

welcome to an MMO, where if you’re good people cry about you until you arent, then mysteriously shut up when they benefit from a balance patch.

Touched that up for you a bit, based on my experience with other games.

I might be able to generalize it further.

Some of the things that were brought into this game don’t even work on paper, still we got them and they are unchanged for now half a year.

Most of the crying is people who cannot handle the fact that it isnt premades beating them now that they can see who is actually teamed. They have moved to the next thing, calling classes op and blaming matchmaking for giving them bad teammates.

Honestly it sounds like the DOTA2 forums.

People either dont understand that good matchmaking algos ensure a 50% longterm win rate or they cannot handle the fact that they are not as good as they thought they were.

Honestly, people are crying on the forums, and it all boils down to power-creep. Everything is doing too much now, and very little of it requires deliberate action. Everyone farts out random conditions, damage procs, and instants that reacting to a big animation with a big effect just isn’t a thing, really.

Pre-patch, normal match-long damage and healing was in the 200-300k range, whereas nowadays many specs can hit 1 million quite reasonably (damage at least). Damage is too high, and so is sustain. Diversity is at an all time low, b/c you either play the new “meta” spec elite, or, with rare exceptions, gtfo. The pace of combat no longer promotes reactionary play, but instead rotational/predictive play (chaining defenses/sustain to just avoid everything rather than saving your limited defense for very important times).

This is apparent by just comparing to the carryover. In the previous meta, which was relatively balanced aside from a slightly too-strong d/d ele, you had a decent mix of burst, sustain, and support. Even in that meta, the “max burst” of mesmer was already a little too high, and d/d ele was the bar of “best spec.” After HoT, D/D ele is just kind of viable but generally out-matched by specs like scrapper or reaper for the same role (1v1 specialist).

brannigan.9831:

Give me a break. What’s more logical: A-net launched a bunch of new content and its all not properly balanced or A-net launched a bunch of new content and its all perfectly fine the way it is. You can’t honestly tell me its the later. And its not a knock of A-net I’ve been playing MMORPGs for close to 15 years every time a big expansion or content patch is released there are always things that need to be fixed/balanced its just impossible to balance things until the full player base knocks around at everything for a couple of weeks. Stop being internet tough guys you are not impressing anyone over the age of 15.

what if its balanced? what if its not the game but the player that needs fixing? because I play different classes and I still beat and keep beating DH, reaper, scrapper, chrono, vault thief. this is based on me understanding their strengths and weaknesses. So it’s definetly not the game that needs patching but the players needing some improvements

The cry will not stop even DH , Reaper , Chrono , Rev got nerfed just like the warrior 100b most scrubs hate it because they can’t eat their doughnut on their left hand while their right hand is pressing the left mouse button and winning. Do you imagine a rooted skill that is widely open for a knockdown , stun , daze , knock back is considered OP when you just have to side step or roll then burst that warrior channeling 100b.

Yes,yes….
People don’t know how to play,and cry,and when the leagues start
and solo players will still be matched against premades their personal
skill will be 100% shown….
If this game mode,with this class balance,as it is now,with all the
burst damage d$rping from all the new elite lines stays as it is,and
GW2 ever gets more than 100k viewers(I’m being overly optimistic,
I know) for it’s matches,I’ll paint my hair red and grow a beard.

P.S 1,2,dead.
Wasn’t that fun viewers?

BlackBeard.2873:

Honestly, people are crying on the forums, and it all boils down to power-creep. Everything is doing too much now, and very little of it requires deliberate action. Everyone farts out random conditions, damage procs, and instants that reacting to a big animation with a big effect just isn’t a thing, really.

Pre-patch, normal match-long damage and healing was in the 200-300k range, whereas nowadays many specs can hit 1 million quite reasonably (damage at least). Damage is too high, and so is sustain. Diversity is at an all time low, b/c you either play the new “meta” spec elite, or, with rare exceptions, gtfo. The pace of combat no longer promotes reactionary play, but instead rotational/predictive play (chaining defenses/sustain to just avoid everything rather than saving your limited defense for very important times).

This is apparent by just comparing to the carryover. In the previous meta, which was relatively balanced aside from a slightly too-strong d/d ele, you had a decent mix of burst, sustain, and support. Even in that meta, the “max burst” of mesmer was already a little too high, and d/d ele was the bar of “best spec.” After HoT, D/D ele is just kind of viable but generally out-matched by specs like scrapper or reaper for the same role (1v1 specialist).

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