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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

So first of all you stick 3 of the 4 thieves on the same team instead of splitting them evenly or simply not allowing this many thieves, then you stick the two players who are in a team with 0 losses in pro league on the opposing side to the ridiculously comped team. Great job.

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Posted by: Rickster.8752

Rickster.8752

Your point? You want to sit in a queue for 7 years waiting for a meta vs meta set up?

BTW you know you can reroll right?

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

I’m probably breaking some awesome news for you:
You can switch class at the start of a match!!! WOAH!

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

And? When I reroll I still have 2 thieves because most thieves don’t seem to reroll.

In addition, if this is really a valid argument then there should be a disclaimer on the ranked button saying that you must be able to play at least 2 classes competently and be willing to switch before queuing.

Even if 2 thieves were to switch, we’d have 2 players with classes that they didn’t want to me on vs a team with preferred classes and 2 top players.

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Posted by: Shirlias.8104

Shirlias.8104

And? When I reroll I still have 2 thieves because most thieves don’t seem to reroll.

i don’t ( just cause i don’t like other classes ).

btw, yesterday i made up a little premade with ppl found into my games and we did great ( and no1 blamed me cause i played Staff Thief. This part was fun )

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

And? When I reroll I still have 2 thieves because most thieves don’t seem to reroll.

Did you take the time to ask them something along the line of:
“hey guys, would any of you switch to x class we’d need against y class we’re facing because we’re lacking z utility/support/etc and one thief can do the roaming job plenty enough” while adding “I’d like to stay on thief, or I’ll switch to c class”
Or did you just look at the matchmaking, threw your hand in the air and curse Anet and random class stacking RNG, which they can’t really prevent since people can play whatever they want and we don’t have the sufficient player pool to enable algorithm that would rule out class stacking without lenghtening the queue time by x amount?

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

And? When I reroll I still have 2 thieves because most thieves don’t seem to reroll.

Did you take the time to ask them something along the line of:
“hey guys, would any of you switch to x class we’d need against y class we’re facing because we’re lacking z utility/support/etc and one thief can do the roaming job plenty enough” while adding “I’d like to stay on thief, or I’ll switch to c class”
Or did you just look at the matchmaking, threw your hand in the air and curse Anet and random class stacking RNG, which they can’t really prevent since people can play whatever they want and we don’t have the sufficient player pool to enable algorithm that would rule out class stacking without lenghtening the queue time by x amount?

Did you really think not one of us in the team had written in team chat requesting class switches? And my point still stands even if 2 had switched – we’d have 2 people on unpreferred classes vs a team with 2 top players and all on preferred classes and would still lose.

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Posted by: Koru.8574

Koru.8574

lol ..this from a thief that also didn’t reroll….i sense the heartseeker is strong in you.

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

And? When I reroll I still have 2 thieves because most thieves don’t seem to reroll.

Did you take the time to ask them something along the line of:
“hey guys, would any of you switch to x class we’d need against y class we’re facing because we’re lacking z utility/support/etc and one thief can do the roaming job plenty enough” while adding “I’d like to stay on thief, or I’ll switch to c class”
Or did you just look at the matchmaking, threw your hand in the air and curse Anet and random class stacking RNG, which they can’t really prevent since people can play whatever they want and we don’t have the sufficient player pool to enable algorithm that would rule out class stacking without lenghtening the queue time by x amount?

Did you really think not one of us in the team had written in team chat requesting class switches? And my point still stands even if 2 had switched – we’d have 2 people on unpreferred classes vs a team with 2 top players and all on preferred classes and would still lose.

You never hinted that some of you asked
and yes, I saw teams where people would stack class that don’t really work stacked and no one said a kitten thing about it (couldn’t help but be a mighty keyboard warrior while in game tho)
And since your post lacked the necessary information that you provided in reply to my post, I simply assumed none of you bothered to ask anyone to switch class and simply gave up first hand.
2 top players happens too. Feels harsh and I know the pain of not being able to do anything… I faced Abjured twice in a row once and truly they wiped the floor with us even though we did manage to do 15 points.
We all know this season is as kittened up as they come, and matchmaking is crap. And meta is crap. And division system is crap. And mmr is crap. And HoTM as a whole is crap. And the game itself is going downhill.
We get it.
Everyone does and having ten-twenty posts a day about it kinda make people not care anymore, especially when many of them doesn’t even bring anything else but additionnal QQ to the table with nothing relevant to reflect on.
So yeah:
Tough luck I guess, it sucks, keep trying, maybe next time mmr will like you a bit better, keep it up only a week left, etc, etc.

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Posted by: Mister Fluffkin.7358

Mister Fluffkin.7358

Your point? You want to sit in a queue for 7 years waiting for a meta vs meta set up?

BTW you know you can reroll right?

Haha, a great matchup indeed. :P Im the necro on that screen and our matchup(duo queue with ranger) took exactly 15 seconds. 0o
Dont know why, we asked us as well why the queue was that short.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

LOL had similar matches as well with 3 thieves on my team. Thing is: leagues are a joke thanks to the exploits and the fact that mmr was never reset.
To anyone that complains about thieves on team i just say: you guys cried for 3 years for thief nerfs, now eat the results <<< watching the rage after that is most fun thing to do in pvp atm.

All is Vain~
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Posted by: brannigan.9831

brannigan.9831

It is very bad that triple class stacking is allowed longer queues or not its stupid and no most people won’t change if you ask them and even if they could most would likely be worst on there secondary class as you average player in this game doesn’t have 1,000 years to play and get really poficieint at multiple classes. Up to two I could live with but three class stacking no it shouldn’t be allowed imo. As a matter of fact three years in we should probably have a system where the game can look at who is in the matcher and apportion them to team by role/archetype based on traits and jewelry. All of this is some kind of super science to a-net though. The lower the bar you have for a-net the worst you are going to receive in return.

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Posted by: Pepsi.8907

Pepsi.8907

It is very bad that triple class stacking is allowed longer queues or not its stupid and no most people won’t change if you ask them and even if they could most would likely be worst on there secondary class as you average player in this game doesn’t have 1,000 years to play and get really poficieint at multiple classes. Up to two I could live with but three class stacking no it shouldn’t be allowed imo. As a matter of fact three years in we should probably have a system where the game can look at who is in the matcher and apportion them to team by role/archetype based on traits and jewelry. All of this is some kind of super science to a-net though. The lower the bar you have for a-net the worst you are going to receive in return.

OP was part of those three thieves, he could have switched. I have no pity for his post.
None.
And three years in we shouldnt have a mess like we currently have in meta, it shouldn’t be science to reset mmr, the game should have progressed instead of regressed and we should have had something to do in HoTM on top of build templates to save.

My GW2 christmas list keeps getting longer and longer, but I have no control over it. I don’t bother wishing for things I can’t help to have or not.
From my experience 2/3 of the players will switch class if you manage to explain properly and respectfully, the other you just deal with and make a plan based on what I have at hand.
I adapt.
Beside, getting at least a passable level on two-three classes isn’t sorcery, it doesn’t require intense satanic rituals nor a lifeless dedication to the game.
I did it, I’m a full time student and a part-time worker who’s training four days a week. I can hold my own and know both ele and mesmer quite well, and I’m on my way to learn thief.
It’s a multiple class game, learning only one through and through is like shooting yourself in the feet if only for the reason to know other classes builds and mechanics (which would greatly help people who QQ about classes they have no idea about)
We can hope and claim as much as we want that class stacking shouldn’t be a thing (which I agree), fact is: it is a thing.
If OP had proceeded to switch his class, show map chat or his tier then maybe I’d have considered to give more than kitten advice anyone should know or sarcasm.
As it is, I have QQ on my hand, and no pity or sympathy to offer.

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Posted by: Shirlias.8104

Shirlias.8104

Due to the fact that MM puts you against/with players of a similar ranked, at least it ( i’m talking about matchmaking ) could make a “class check”.

Have 3 of the same class in the same team can happens, but what about when there are noone in the other team? This, to me, it’s a game issue.

It’s not totally like the ts’s case( 1 thief vs 3 thieves ), but still it can happens ( i already made a check to see if some1 was part of a premade, but 3 out of 3 we all were on soloq ).

Matchmaking should puts you against players of the same range, but also makes a class check.

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Posted by: Laraley.7695

Laraley.7695

MM is just preparing for the upcomping patch when it will be 4 thieves and one reaper. Sure, it’s not perfect yet, but they’re working on it, give them time.

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Posted by: Shirlias.8104

Shirlias.8104

With no elementalists i bet guardians are going to stomp thieves.