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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

You’ve some how made this games matchmaking worse than it was pre-patch.

1st match, 500-0 on Courtyard.

2nd game was…weird. I was capable of winning 2v1 at far, but my team? Slaughtered 3v4. Just…

3rd game? 500-50, my team is a all soloq, get put against a team that is half premade.

3 matches in and I honestly don’t feel like queing at all.

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Posted by: Darnis.4056

Darnis.4056

Courtyard is always going to be 0 500
I’ve never had a close courtyard game.
Why? Because it’s an elimination match that keeps going and the other team can never catch up.

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Posted by: glock.6590

glock.6590

I think they said match making is disabled until dec 16.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

No, I think they are using matchmaking and adjusting the settings to get even matches. Once they feel they are getting them as even as possible with the current PvP player population, they will start changing your rating and ladders will be turned on.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

4th match, another CY, another 500-0, their team with triple guardian.

What a fail

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Posted by: Vieux P.1238

Vieux P.1238

Thats normal soon after a new patch like this one. Give it time. I bet will be fixed with in the next few days…

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

Already I see less whining on this forum. The serious players love the new direction. The casual “lawl” players are dropping our of arena and into hotjoin (i.e. called “Practice” now). All is well.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

5th game, I legit kill 2 people far, and cap it. End result: Game lost, 500-365, my 4 MAN PREMADE LOST 3V4

This matchmaking, IS HORRENDOUS

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

6th game, won 500-62, spawn camping them on Spirit Watch.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

MjGander, no use complaining on this until after the 14-days adjustment period.

They can see all the games and scores on what maps much better than you can. They are aware.

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Posted by: ItIsFinished.9462

ItIsFinished.9462

Courtyard is always going to be 0 500
I’ve never had a close courtyard game.
Why? Because it’s an elimination match that keeps going and the other team can never catch up.

I just had a match in Courtyard 400-25.

Told the team to stick together. We ended up winning 450-500.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Yeh sorry for the complaining spam, but I really am mind blown that most matches are complete and utter blow outs, or having teams being mainly premade and being put against complete pugs is just worrying me.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

That coupled with both teams being pugs, but class stacking per side still happening.

I’ve had several matches where both teams have 2 of a class, even though we are all pugs.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

Mj, given how you feel, I would avoid playing until they get it adjusted. You’ll be happier.

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Posted by: Evan Lesh

Evan Lesh

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Are you playing in Ranked or Unranked? Unranked has a new MMR, so the matches could be unfair until your rating adjusts. We’re looking into copying previous Team Arena MMR into Unranked as well which should aleviate this.

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

Joined ranked arena.
My team = 5 solo queuers.
The enemy team = 3 premades + 2 solo queuers.
The following screenshot shows how the game went.

My second match – soloq vs Fifty Five Hp Monks
(or a premade of at least 3)

Fun! I like how the change fixed the leaver problem (first picture).

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Posted by: Tellerion.8102

Tellerion.8102

Based on the couple of ranked matches I’ve tried so far, the new system doesn’t seem to take into account these couple of things:
- Class stacking
- Skill level/experience
- Amount of people queuing together

The majority of the matches I’ve done has been completely 1-sided, for obvious reasons, pretty much all of them has included variations/combinations of the 3 elements mentioned above; everything from class stacking(4 warriors on 1 team), full premade against 5 people solo queuing, and new people that hasn’t touched spvp before getting teamed with/against people who has played well above 3k games.

This is entirely from a solo queuing point of view.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Playing ranked.

Oh the screenshot, this is is apparently the new ranked, most of my games have been something like this, utter horrible blow outs.

This isn’t fun, at all.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Now in a 4v5, welp.

Jk, become 3v5.

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Posted by: xehn.3420

xehn.3420

As said above, the matches in ranked arena are weird, often one sided. Experienced players are mixed with people who have most likely never played pvp before.

I dont know if the ready popup is bugged or not but most of my time in the game is spent waiting for the last guy to accept the match (1st image)

also class stacking (last 2)

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Posted by: Geiir.7603

Geiir.7603

Are you playing in Ranked or Unranked? Unranked has a new MMR, so the matches could be unfair until your rating adjusts. We’re looking into copying previous Team Arena MMR into Unranked as well which should aleviate this.

This. People don’t get that you guys reset mmr with this patch….

As of now people may be queued with new players or seasoned vets. People just need to get that and understand that their ranking probably won’t settle before they have played quite a few games.

Btw; thanks for the awesome update!

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

3rd loss in a row, another miserable blow out. :’ )

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Posted by: Lordrosicky.5813

Lordrosicky.5813

I am with and against complete beginners which rarely used to happen before (as a duo/solo queuer).

And by beginners I mean double cappers who go for side buffs on temple at 8.30

This is in ranked btw

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Posted by: Tellerion.8102

Tellerion.8102

Are you playing in Ranked or Unranked? Unranked has a new MMR, so the matches could be unfair until your rating adjusts. We’re looking into copying previous Team Arena MMR into Unranked as well which should aleviate this.

This. People don’t get that you guys reset mmr with this patch....

Notice how he specifically asks about if it’s ranked or unranked? As far as I’m aware the MMR for ranked was still going to be kept, and not reset like you seem to be claiming.

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Posted by: Dhunis.9072

Dhunis.9072

It was stated that MMR will stay for ranked matches. Yet experienced people with 2k matches are getting teamed up and against rabbit ranks in ranked arenas.

Ranked Arenas a.k.a. the New Hotjoin

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Had another loss now, 3 necros against double engi.

One engi had the rune that turns you into mist when at low hp.

Just, how laughable.

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Posted by: Zefrost.3425

Zefrost.3425

Had another loss now, 3 necros against double engi.

One engi had the rune that turns you into mist when at low hp.

Just, how laughable.

You had 3 necros and enemy had 2 engi and you lost? lol

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Don’t look at me, I wasn’t the necros getting wiped by engineers.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Oh and 5th loss in a row now I think, another Courtyard blow out.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

MJgander, you can stop posting now. We get it. You want it to work correctly right now, and not in two weeks.

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Posted by: leman.7682

leman.7682

MJgander, you can stop posting now. We get it. You want it to work correctly right now, and not in two weeks.

Like it was a problem of the reset / data collection and not of the faulty implementation…

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Posted by: Sebastian.4610

Sebastian.4610

Keep posting them mjgander dont let the casual fanboy (laserbolt.6731) get in your way

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

No, I will continue to post about every stupid blow out I have the utmost joy in playing, you know, the very thing this match making was meant to prevent.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Hell, I’d take a 4v5 every couple of matches over this nonsense any day.

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

It’s bugged, what else is there to say? Try and give some constructive feedback and they’ll get it fixed.

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Posted by: Belze Intilie.8436

Belze Intilie.8436

Sorry but i have to agree. Pure chaos and anarchy. =(

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

You want constructive feedback?

Oh ok.

Well let me see, how about not putting solo q players against full or semi premades after 5 seconds in que, that’s a good start is it not?

Or, or how about actually spreading out players based on class? You know, 2 rangers 2 warriors against 2 eles and 2 guardians, that sort of rubbish is still happening frequently.

That would be a nice start

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

Could be more constructive, less toxic.

Try again.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

6th loss, once again, a coutyard utter blow out

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Posted by: butch.8136

butch.8136

And it’s always the fault of the system?
It seems to me you’re more on these forums QQ’ing than trying to win.

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

MjGander,

You don’t seem to understand what is happening right now and why it is happening.

I will explain it for you.

1) They are testing out the new matchmaking system
2) They said they are adjusting it and uneven, silly matches WILL occur in this testing phase.
3) You seem to think this is unreasonable and these matches should not be happening now.

So, you are complaining constantly in the forums. You think it is unreasonable that bad matches happen during the testing and adjustment period.

But the rest of us understand that they are working the bugs out. We get it.

If you play now you are going to get facerolled, maybe a lot. So stop playing if that bothers you.

WHY are you still playing?

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Bad matches, yes. Naturally, they will exist in any system that can be created. But when every single match is just a horrible landslide, game after game it gets old.

And did they internally test this? They put the merged both ranked ques and thought screw it and hope for the best?

This shouldn’t be happening, not this bad at all. Unless they some how messed up the matchmaking, the way it’s calculated, which from the looks of it they have and badly.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Yes, I do also think it’s unreasonable.

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

Now I’m against a full team premade, 5 people in the same guild.

My team, isn’t.

GG WP

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Posted by: Laserbolt.6731

Laserbolt.6731

Yes, I do also think it’s unreasonable.

They do not know the proper settings yet. They have to see how the complex settings work on real matches. That is just the way it is with complicated software.

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Posted by: Kycoo Grim.9463

Kycoo Grim.9463

Now I’m against a full team premade, 5 people in the same guild.

My team, isn’t.

GG WP

Its going to happen, it will keep happening. If you hate it, play a different part of the game. If you MUST play PvP, play practice until the system has been worked out. I’m sure you wouldn’t mind playing 4v5’s where you can landslide the enemy. Can’t stand practice? Don’t play PvP until it has been tweaked. Anet’s got allot on their plate right now, and just the fact that they made this change to pvp is a good sign.

Now that I think about it, you seem like a troll… clearly the system is not so bad that you have stopped playing, so…. do you just want to complain? If that’s the case, some one close this thread… nothing productive or constructive is happening.

Just a filthy Casual, move along.

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Posted by: Athanielle.3016

Athanielle.3016

this matchmaking is a joke
im tired of getting against premades when solo-qing in rankeds

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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

First 30 seconds of the match, team gets wiped and triple capped. current score 100-5. GG

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Posted by: Phaeton.9582

Phaeton.9582

Evan the spread of player skill is just too wide at the moment. I can 1v2 their team and their team can 1v2 mine. That says it all really….


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Posted by: Khenzo.2465

Khenzo.2465

First 30 seconds of the match, team gets wiped and triple capped. current score 100-5. GG

EDIT: Oh nevermind, it was another premade against a pug team.

One person on my team claims this is their 4th match as a solo player against a pug.