Guild Wars 2

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/3023189]

Ele VS Spirit ranger. Ranger activates three skills, gets CC’d, ele dies.

builds which require the strategic use of all (minimum) 11 skills are too hard. Havnt you read das forum? The game is too hard thats whats driving people away, how hard it is to play this game.

What’s your point?

I thought crying about rangers was so last month.

Now that pure skill on ranger playing one of the hardest builds possible…

What are you talking about you are only complaining because you lack the skills to tell what was going on. That ranger pulled off an incredibly skilled stunt and deserved its victory over the lame ele 1hko build.

I dont say that Spirit Rangers take skill to be effective,but you ate in the face storms spirits active..About 1,5 sec casting skill,which makes the spirit stop moving.So there you played bad…Other than this i agree that spirit Rangers are eating alive every GC build right now,with minimum effort

Ostricheggs.3742:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/3023189]

Ele VS Spirit ranger. Ranger activates three skills, gets CC’d, ele dies.

Playing an ele = Tribulation mode PvP

Anything can kill you. You can die at any time. Everything one-shots you.

hi, let me take a second to commentate whats happening in the video u posted.

first of all u waste 2 dodges for fun, then u use ether renewal with 99% hp. puts ur heal on cd and makes u unable to dodge the initial longbow madness.

all that followed up by a pretty darn messed up air burst into protection, the updraft looked good, since it braught u in perfect position to wipe his spirits.
but what u actually did is – u phoenix, ring of fire + firegrab 3 spirits without dodging them and u got oneshot by them.

i fully agree with u when u say spirit ranger is one of the easiest builds in the game, while being very effective, and it still need some tweaks.
but seriously dude, ur video just shows that u should prolly spend some more time on ele and on spirit ranger aswell.

ele is in a bad spot and things need to be changed, but that video, seriously? no offense tho

valar ~~

Spirit ranger just needs its elite nerfed in terms of the cast time on the res it does. Maybe some small other nerfs to some of the traits too so the passives proc less often.

Awesome how people come out of the woodwork to pop in and tell Ostrich he’s bad. It really is fascinating how fast randoms pop in with “u jus bad” without putting any thought into it.

/doh

The point of the video is that he ranger could have been pretty much AFK and OE wouldda died in that scenario. Yeah, his play wasn’t flawless in that clip, and he is a good enough player to tell you that himself, but getting killed almost entirely by the AI in under 10s is ridiculous.

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671:

Awesome how people come out of the woodwork to pop in and tell Ostrich he’s bad. It really is fascinating how fast randoms pop in with “u jus bad” without putting any thought into it.

/doh

The point of the video is that he ranger could have been pretty much AFK and OE wouldda died in that scenario. Yeah, his play wasn’t flawless in that clip, and he is a good enough player to tell you that himself, but getting killed almost entirely by the AI in under 10s is ridiculous.

Valar > Ostrich. Valar never loses :P

ELEorAFK.7935:

hi, let me take a second to commentate whats happening in the video u posted.

first of all u waste 2 dodges for fun, then u use ether renewal with 99% hp. puts ur heal on cd and makes u unable to dodge the initial longbow madness.

all that followed up by a pretty darn messed up air burst into protection, the updraft looked good, since it braught u in perfect position to wipe his spirits.
but what u actually did is – u phoenix, ring of fire + firegrab 3 spirits without dodging them and u got oneshot by them.

i fully agree with u when u say spirit ranger is one of the easiest builds in the game, while being very effective, and it still need some tweaks.
but seriously dude, ur video just shows that u should prolly spend some more time on ele and on spirit ranger aswell.

ele is in a bad spot and things need to be changed, but that video, seriously? no offense tho

valar ~~

That was simply a show of how powerful the AI is .

The ranger was CCed the whole time, the only skill he was able to land was point blank shot.

Regarding the burst, there’s no way to avoid bursting into protection against a spirit ranger, since as soon as you build with forge runes, you’ve perma protection.

Surely ostrich should have dodged spirits burst, but the fact that a player can do this while not even having the control of his char, is definitely broken.

Just like ele air burst, since it happens the same way ( while CCed, while dodging, whenver he wants basically).

Spirit ranger needs to disappear from this game.

People telling an Ele to L2p against a Ranger.. nothing’s getting balanced around whatever you say, sigh.

The fact that you can cast something while you’re CC’d as a ranger is just dumb and broken. When a ranger is stunned they shouldn’t even be able to do anything. The fact that people don’t see why this is a problem is just sad and pathetic. Just proves that really garbage communities defend things that take no skill because they can’t grow any skill.

hi Myrmidian, i never said ostrich is bad in the first place. u sure might think im a random, truth is i have 6k ele games and over 3k hours invested only in this class, so i guess im qualified enough to commentate what he did in his video. every half decent ele can tell u that the reason he died so quickly were missplays. thats no offense towards ostricheggs, i know he is playing alot of diffrent classes and builds, so its no biggie to fail on ele.
but im kinda bored of the “eleissobadwheniplayitigetoneshotbyeverythinginstantlyhype”.
u can even see on his reaction in the video, that he wasnt clear about whats happening if he will fireburst all spirits without dodging them after they die. and he got oneshot.

so pls cut the crap, this video doesnt say anything about the current state of elementalists nor spirit ranger, it just shows a ele dieing hard to a lack of knowledge.

(sure i still fully agree with the ele is in a bad spot stuff, but its not as bad as everyone of yo little trashtalk hype guys say)

excuse my english pls

valar ~~

If you use focus on ele, you’ll kill most spirit rangers without much troubles

Hey, sorry but I’m not sure what I saw in the video. Did the fire grab kill the spirits which triggered Natures Vengeance?

yes that is what uve seen~

Never thought i would be saying this, but l2p ostrich, you got hit with the storm spirit twice, that’s just a classic noob mistake. #l2dodgeroll

TheWalkingDead.7298:

Never thought i would be saying this, but l2p ostrich, you got hit with the storm spirit twice, that’s just a classic noob mistake. #l2dodgeroll

Lolz. By your logic sure if you never make a mistake you might not lose. I know you are a pro that never makes a mistake and if we combed through footage of one of your 1 v 1 fights we would see that every decision you make out of 100 is perfect but for the rest of us, even the best, we occassionally make mistakes. Get my point yet? Spirit Rangers are too strong for how easy they are to play. Don’t peddle your l2play nonsense here.

Maybe a change in how player stuns affect pets. Like, pets cast times increase 100% while player is stunned. A player needs to be punished for not bringing a stunbreak. I think the problem is that cc is only a quarter as effective to a pet focused build as it is to a non pet focused build and that is what needs to be balanced.

Gotta pay the toll of killing his spirits. the 12k hp ele got instagibed by a spirit. l2p noooobbbbbbbb

You just face tanked two storm spirit hits, perma burning, and lynx pet with a 12k hp glass cannon ele. No wonder you died so quickly.

Make an effort to dodge the spirits and kite the pet and you just reduced about 9k of the damage you took overall.

ELEorAFK.7935:

hi Myrmidian, i never said ostrich is bad in the first place. u sure might think im a random, truth is i have 6k ele games and over 3k hours invested only in this class, so i guess im qualified enough to commentate what he did in his video. every half decent ele can tell u that the reason he died so quickly were missplays. thats no offense towards ostricheggs, i know he is playing alot of diffrent classes and builds, so its no biggie to fail on ele.
but im kinda bored of the “eleissobadwheniplayitigetoneshotbyeverythinginstantlyhype”.
u can even see on his reaction in the video, that he wasnt clear about whats happening if he will fireburst all spirits without dodging them after they die. and he got oneshot.

so pls cut the crap, this video doesnt say anything about the current state of elementalists nor spirit ranger, it just shows a ele dieing hard to a lack of knowledge.

(sure i still fully agree with the ele is in a bad spot stuff, but its not as bad as everyone of yo little trashtalk hype guys say)

excuse my english pls

valar ~~

The point is that something’s wrong when other classes can burst just as effectively as burst classes while being super tanky and barely putting effort. Now is not the time to have this ele pride; I’m sure someone out there can beat people who have knives with their bare hands—but I’m not going to sit back and deny that the guy with the knife doesn’t have a great advantage.

Kwll.1468:

TheWalkingDead.7298:

Never thought i would be saying this, but l2p ostrich, you got hit with the storm spirit twice, that’s just a classic noob mistake. #l2dodgeroll

Lolz. By your logic sure if you never make a mistake you might not lose. I know you are a pro that never makes a mistake and if we combed through footage of one of your 1 v 1 fights we would see that every decision you make out of 100 is perfect but for the rest of us, even the best, we occassionally make mistakes. Get my point yet? Spirit Rangers are too strong for how easy they are to play. Don’t peddle your l2play nonsense here.

While the first part of your post is true(the being a pro part), the same could be said for not dodging/breaking an ele churning earth/air/fire combo then going on the fourms and saying “lewl op ele i no dodge en i die xDDDDDD”

^ exactly, thats what im saying, but in reality, 80% of the ppl ,if not more ,that have massive problems against spirit rangers, dont understand how they work, or dont understand how to properly counterplay them. ofc with most classes u cant fight a spiritranger on a node , standing in all of his spirits, while trying to dps him, and hoping he dies. because the ranger can potentially make u eat 6 spirit activations.

solution: u kill the spirits and whats left of the ranger is literally beatable by any stupid kitten bad build.

lets take phantasm mesmers as an example, first uve ever met in gw2 → well, u prolly didnt see that dmg coming. but after u realized, only his phantasms hurt alot → u avoid them and wow, gz uve just beaten AI.

ofc am not gonna deny that spirit ranger is a much more effective build when it comes to tpvp, but at the end of the day, spirit ranger mechanic is as logic and simple as phantasm mesmer mechanic. so if u still want to fight them on a node, u still have no kitten clue how much dodges they have left, u still kill their spirits while not dodging them, u waste ur CC into shared anguish, then im very sorry for u but then u deserve to die.

and pls dont tryhard to misunderstand me, spirit rangers are too easy to play, for beeing that effective, so it needs more tweaks.

but kitten stop saying that spirit ranger vs ele is like godzilla vs quaggan, because its not.

valar ~~ come at me and i kitten humiliate ur whole wvw gvg guild with 1 phoenix combo so even ur great grandchilds will talk about the great valar.

oh wow, dont mind me, i ve actually forgotten that this is a casual game.

TheWalkingDead.7298:

Kwll.1468:

TheWalkingDead.7298:

Never thought i would be saying this, but l2p ostrich, you got hit with the storm spirit twice, that’s just a classic noob mistake. #l2dodgeroll

Lolz. By your logic sure if you never make a mistake you might not lose. I know you are a pro that never makes a mistake and if we combed through footage of one of your 1 v 1 fights we would see that every decision you make out of 100 is perfect but for the rest of us, even the best, we occassionally make mistakes. Get my point yet? Spirit Rangers are too strong for how easy they are to play. Don’t peddle your l2play nonsense here.

While the first part of your post is true(the being a pro part), the same could be said for not dodging/breaking an ele churning earth/air/fire combo then going on the fourms and saying “lewl op ele i no dodge en i die xDDDDDD”

But an ele isn’t a ranger. There’s complaining about obviously overpowered classes and then actual l2p issues ( which should only be used when it’s actually a balanced matchup ). L2P does not mean, you need to do 200% on your class to beat another class, and if you don’t, you suck and you really need to try harder. Rangers are an issue and warriors are right behind them.

Also, if you really get hit by churning earth and complain about the ele—that’s pretty obvious what the issue is at hand here. Comparing combos, rangers have spirit actives which can be timed well and lots of evasive weapon skills that can more or less be spammed. Eles do not have a viable weapon set (attunement)—they need to be constantly switching attunements depending on the situation and it becomes predictable what they are going to do because of that. Also, they have to be at close range for the most part but don’t have the survivability to last while on the other hand a ranger has AIs, Medium Base Armor, Protection, Regen, Water fields, and Evasion. Eles have at most two sources of invulnerabilities which are on high cd and one takes up an entire utility slot. Their heal is mediocre at best (why doesn’t this class have a passive heal like warrior?) Warriors can heal per second by doing nothing but eles have to use spells in order to gain heals? Sometimes I just don’t understand what’s going on in Anet’s heads.

ELEorAFK.7935:

^ exactly, thats what im saying, but in reality, 80% of the ppl ,if not more ,that have massive problems against spirit rangers, dont understand how they work, or dont understand how to properly counterplay them. ofc with most classes u cant fight a spiritranger on a node , standing in all of his spirits, while trying to dps him, and hoping he dies. because the ranger can potentially make u eat 6 spirit activations.

solution: u kill the spirits and whats left of the ranger is literally beatable by any stupid kitten bad build.

lets take phantasm mesmers as an example, first uve ever met in gw2 -> well, u prolly didnt see that dmg coming. but after u realized, only his phantasms hurt alot -> u avoid them and wow, gz uve just beaten AI.

ofc am not gonna deny that spirit ranger is a much more effective build when it comes to tpvp, but at the end of the day, spirit ranger mechanic is as logic and simple as phantasm mesmer mechanic. so if u still want to fight them on a node, u still have no kitten clue how much dodges they have left, u still kill their spirits while not dodging them, u waste ur CC into shared anguish, then im very sorry for u but then u deserve to die.

and pls dont tryhard to misunderstand me, spirit rangers are too easy to play, for beeing that effective, so it needs more tweaks.

but kitten stop saying that spirit ranger vs ele is like godzilla vs quaggan, because its not.

valar ~~ come at me and i kitten humiliate ur whole wvw gvg guild with 1 phoenix combo so even ur great grandchilds will talk about the great valar.

People are saying it’s imbalanced, not necessarily unbeatable, but strong enough to make the amount of effort you have to put to win almost become stressful. I wouldn’t mind so much if the other guy was just as stressed as me, but pretty sure he’s sipping a pina colada on the other side of the screen while I kill his pets.

most ppl play s/f ele nowadays anyway, SO believe me when im chilling in earth, while letting spirit rangers driveby themselfs, am so sippin on ma hennessy (no pina coladas, im male.)

Ranger is part of the holy trinity of GW2 PvP – Guardian, Ranger, and Thief.

Guardian is the best mid support and has been from day 1. Thief has the best mobility, closes called targets out the fastest, and has Shadow Refuge, the best downed state control skill in the game.

Ranger is the best home node class and always will be because of the high survival/damage ratio. They get protection on every dodge and can have perma vigor uptime with 50% endurance regen. You don’t burst them down it just doesn’t happen. In addition to this, they get medium armor and health, and can scale incredibly well with Settler’s amulet, making them very hard to kill with direct damage.

My rule of thumb with Ranger is don’t 1v1 them with heavy burst. There’s no point you’ll just die or waste a lot of time trying to “actively react to their passive mechanics.” Even if they nerfed storm spirit, they are still going to have plenty of ways to win 1v1s.

How is the ai so difficult for you all? The “passives” are swiftness, burning, and 3/10s protection. The ai never attacks and never uses its one skill without being commanded to. The annimations are simple and long, while the single use active is a single blind, cripple, or dmg.

This is a learn to play issue. I know people on “underpowered” classes who will eat up Rangers. The fact that you can’t do the same is simply a sign of needing to learn your class better.

I think people are missing the point… No kitten I suck at ele. I’m more amazed that no one pointed out my build because it was a pile of kitten and more the reason I died than anything else. I understand quite clearly what I did wrong. I don’t need you to tell me that I’m terrible

The video is more for entertainment and to voice a very common frustration with the level of skill required to play some things vs others. It’s a very good example of a what-the-kitten moment regarding this common frustration.

This isn’t a commentary on eles being unviable. If I made the same mistakes I did as a warrior or thief I would have died. It’s simply to show that some things are just so incredibly easy to play that they can spam 1 three times, get CC’d and win the fight because someone forgot to dodge storm spirit.

P.S. Forums are funny, you guys a bunch of jokesters
P.P.S. I love how some random guy is kittening saying the other random guy is a better player than I am. What in the kitten, LOL

ELEorAFK.7935:

hi Myrmidian, i never said ostrich is bad in the first place. u sure might think im a random, truth is i have 6k ele games and over 3k hours invested only in this class, so i guess im qualified enough to commentate what he did in his video. every half decent ele can tell u that the reason he died so quickly were missplays. thats no offense towards ostricheggs, i know he is playing alot of diffrent classes and builds, so its no biggie to fail on ele.
but im kinda bored of the “eleissobadwheniplayitigetoneshotbyeverythinginstantlyhype”.
u can even see on his reaction in the video, that he wasnt clear about whats happening if he will fireburst all spirits without dodging them after they die. and he got oneshot.

so pls cut the crap, this video doesnt say anything about the current state of elementalists nor spirit ranger, it just shows a ele dieing hard to a lack of knowledge.

(sure i still fully agree with the ele is in a bad spot stuff, but its not as bad as everyone of yo little trashtalk hype guys say)

excuse my english pls

valar ~~

No offense dude but this isn’t what we need some guy who plays the game 24/7 and has 20 billion hours on one class talking about how he never makes mistakes, wtf pwns everyone and because of that nothing in the game is op or cant be dealt with easily. Because sadly we don’t all play the game 24/7. People are going to respond to opinions that are well thought out not to a bunch of thoughts based on because I am really good a so called expert. The game needs to be balanced around the average player although Ostrich is clearly much better then average. Spirit Rangers are too powerful for there skill level which is quite low. It is bad to have powerful mostly AI driven specs. They were all over the last big tournament as well I guess because there so bad. :P

Ryan.9387:

How is the ai so difficult for you all? The “passives” are swiftness, burning, and 3/10s protection. The ai never attacks and never uses its one skill without being commanded to. The annimations are simple and long, while the single use active is a single blind, cripple, or dmg.

This is a learn to play issue. I know people on “underpowered” classes who will eat up Rangers. The fact that you can’t do the same is simply a sign of needing to learn your class better.

The problem isn’t that they’re so incredibly broke anymore. They’re simply a strong class. I stated since the change to spirits and CDs that IMO they’re a lot less stronger than they used to be and actually have some sort of counter-play to them.

My problem with them is that it is probably the lowest skill floor and skill ceiling build in the game. The only thing that comes with being a “good” spirit ranger are things that are just simply basic and you need to learn to be good at any class.

I’ve heard from a lot of veteran players that this entire shindig of low-skill high-reward is the reason why they just straight quit (often times bringing their team with them). It’s very frustrating as a player to watch a guy hit disabling shot and crossfire yet still almost kill you when you have to play like a god to be able to kill one.

^
Stop wasting your time. This community is beyond salvation. L2P against something that’s rewarding and easy to play, just WOW.

I personally don’t condone Warrior’s state right now because they can be stronger than Rangers at the highest level of skill. Thing is though, at least Warriors actually have to land CC to DPS and they can’t really fight back if they’re incapacitated unlike Ranger where you can just put an auto-click feature on the mouse and win.

Just telling people to L2P against a brain dead class is pushing it.

And in the video it’s not hard to understand what happened from my perspective. I was using a valks amulet, found an opportuntiy to chain CC a ranger into a fire burst (hopefully without a forge rune proc), took it and died.

Our resident 2 gud ele says that I blew an air burst into a protection, but he seems to ignore that it was a sun spirit proc from the THREE hits he got before he got CC’d. He also points out I used ether renewal at 90%. I did, because I was crippled and about to head to sky-hammer because we were losing because of it and had no intention of fighting a ranger. It’s on such a short CD that I don’t see how that’s even considered a mistake by you, it’s rather nit-picky. I “wasted” two dodges while crippled (hoping to wear down the duration of it without looking at it) on a class that uses energy sigils and has perma vigor. Furthermore I was using a kittening valks ammy and didn’t expect to have a lynx and dead storm spirit proc kill me in an instant.’ The ONE proc of storm spirit on death would not have killed me. What killed me was his lynx and the burning applied by his THREE hits in addition to the storm spirit.

Almost all of valor’s criticism has absolutely nothing to do with the video and is just pointing out what he thinks are mistakes without taking them into context. Also, almost all of the mistakes you pointed out are not mistakes. You need to seriously need to chill and quit coming into threads rubbing your kitten without even considering the implications of the video or reasoning behind every simple action in what happens to be a 25 second clip of actual gameplay…

O Eggs the problem is that’s the way the class was designed. None of their utilities are particularly challenging to use. Their best traits just passively boost what was already passive to begin with.

Anet doesn’t want the game to be hard to play and for the best players to be in a league of their own without much challenging them.

This trend keeps continuing where easy elements are being boosted when a class falls out of the meta. Eles are about to get a huge Healing/Second boost from Water Staff auto, Geyser, and Blasting Staff will make AoE healing for Eles huge. Warriors were on the bench forever so they gave them Healing Signet buffs and Zerker Stance. Necros got Dhuumfire.

They don’t want an oligarchy at the top. Whether or not that’s good for the best players is irrelevant to them they want the game to be more popular and easy to play for new players.

wow that was pathetic, sad to see such a thing exists in this game. Funny thing is; it has happened to me. W/e we are still on the bottom of the barrel because we play ele, so dont expect them to listen to you. Do like everyone else have done; either keep fighting till something resambling balance is achieved or roll a ranger and faceroll people like he did to you

/e-hug from a fellow ele

DO NOT DESPAIR!!!!! The ele is getting better CONJURE SUPPORT!!!! that will fix it!

Ostricheggs.3742:

And in the video it’s not hard to understand what happened from my perspective. I was using a valks amulet, found an opportuntiy to chain CC a ranger into a fire burst (hopefully without a forge rune proc), took it and died.

Our resident 2 gud ele says that I blew an air burst into a protection, but he seems to ignore that it was a sun spirit proc from the THREE hits he got before he got CC’d. He also points out I used ether renewal at 90%. I did, because I was crippled and about to head to sky-hammer because we were losing because of it and had no intention of fighting a ranger. It’s on such a short CD that I don’t see how that’s even considered a mistake by you, it’s rather nit-picky. I “wasted” two dodges while crippled (hoping to wear down the duration of it without looking at it) on a class that uses energy sigils and has perma vigor. Furthermore I was using a kittening valks ammy and didn’t expect to have a lynx and dead storm spirit proc kill me in an instant.’ The ONE proc of storm spirit on death would not have killed me. What killed me was his lynx and the burning applied by his THREE hits in addition to the storm spirit.

Almost all of valor’s criticism has absolutely nothing to do with the video and is just pointing out what he thinks are mistakes without taking them into context. Also, almost all of the mistakes you pointed out are not mistakes. You need to seriously need to chill and quit coming into threads rubbing your kitten without even considering the implications of the video or reasoning behind every simple action in what happens to be a 25 second clip of actual gameplay…

wow.

1. u dont try to “chain CC” full hp spirit rangers with 3 spirits up, when u burst alone.
– because u know about the protection, because u cant oneshot him anyways, because its too risky to jump into 3 spirits in a that small area, because when eles do huges bursts, they usually waste alot of defensive cooldowns too.

2. u cast ur heal, u are on 0 energy, u are running straight into a ranger with 3 spirits up and u dont even blind him or anything, i mean if 1 build is kitten strong already, i dont try to faceroll it with a kitten not so strong build, especially in the matchup itself.

3. the thing with the perma vigor and energy sigil made me laugh hard.
– u waste ur 2 dodges in the beginning, and after it, ur energy goes from 0 – 100 without u even thinking about dodging anything the ranger does.
especially when u are playing with energy sigils + the vigor trait + evasive arcane, u HAVE to dodge, otherwise u are also just wasting ur resources (air dodge for example is pretty good against spirits, justsayin)

4. dont really care which skills killed u in the end, that u didnt expect it to happen says alot about how much knowledge u achieved on both those classes. and since u die instant, u ate alot more spirits, but its not shown in the death breakdown since u were invul.

5. the mistakes are no mistakes part is funny too

6. im surely not the one who needs to chill down, i guess ppl respect players like u on na atleast, and they listen to ur opinion, when u are posting a video in which u fail hardcore and blame the game for it, i feel like someone gotta tell u that u talk kitten.

7. context? what? u are crying about spirit ranger and how easy it is to play effectively, but u dont even try in the slightest to play right against them. this game is full of things that instantly kill u on a walk ele and on any other glassy build too and u have learned to play against it (bs thief, phantasms, shatter mes, power nec, even staff ele……………and so much more) so can u already stop crying and l2p? its pathetic that u find no solution to handle AI even as a 12k hp ele (can give u a hint, just run away and call ur friends eq+tp him and hes oneshot).

8. can give u elementalist lessons, 10g/hour.

valar ~~

ELEorAFK.7935:

Ostricheggs.3742:

And in the video it’s not hard to understand what happened from my perspective. I was using a valks amulet, found an opportuntiy to chain CC a ranger into a fire burst (hopefully without a forge rune proc), took it and died.

Our resident 2 gud ele says that I blew an air burst into a protection, but he seems to ignore that it was a sun spirit proc from the THREE hits he got before he got CC’d. He also points out I used ether renewal at 90%. I did, because I was crippled and about to head to sky-hammer because we were losing because of it and had no intention of fighting a ranger. It’s on such a short CD that I don’t see how that’s even considered a mistake by you, it’s rather nit-picky. I “wasted” two dodges while crippled (hoping to wear down the duration of it without looking at it) on a class that uses energy sigils and has perma vigor. Furthermore I was using a kittening valks ammy and didn’t expect to have a lynx and dead storm spirit proc kill me in an instant.’ The ONE proc of storm spirit on death would not have killed me. What killed me was his lynx and the burning applied by his THREE hits in addition to the storm spirit.

Almost all of valor’s criticism has absolutely nothing to do with the video and is just pointing out what he thinks are mistakes without taking them into context. Also, almost all of the mistakes you pointed out are not mistakes. You need to seriously need to chill and quit coming into threads rubbing your kitten without even considering the implications of the video or reasoning behind every simple action in what happens to be a 25 second clip of actual gameplay…

wow.

1. u dont try to “chain CC” full hp spirit rangers with 3 spirits up, when u burst alone.
– because u know about the protection, because u cant oneshot him anyways, because its too risky to jump into 3 spirits in a that small area, because when eles do huges bursts, they usually waste alot of defensive cooldowns too.

2. u cast ur heal, u are on 0 energy, u are running straight into a ranger with 3 spirits up and u dont even blind him or anything, i mean if 1 build is kitten strong already, i dont try to faceroll it with a kitten not so strong build, especially in the matchup itself.

3. the thing with the perma vigor and energy sigil made me laugh hard.
– u waste ur 2 dodges in the beginning, and after it, ur energy goes from 0 – 100 without u even thinking about dodging anything the ranger does.
especially when u are playing with energy sigils + the vigor trait + evasive arcane, u HAVE to dodge, otherwise u are also just wasting ur resources (air dodge for example is pretty good against spirits, justsayin)

4. dont really care which skills killed u in the end, that u didnt expect it to happen says alot about how much knowledge u achieved on both those classes. and since u die instant, u ate alot more spirits, but its not shown in the death breakdown since u were invul.

5. the mistakes are no mistakes part is funny too

6. im surely not the one who needs to chill down, i guess ppl respect players like u on na atleast, and they listen to ur opinion, when u are posting a video in which u fail hardcore and blame the game for it, i feel like someone gotta tell u that u talk kitten.

7. context? what? u are crying about spirit ranger and how easy it is to play effectively, but u dont even try in the slightest to play right against them. this game is full of things that instantly kill u on a walk ele and on any other glassy build too and u have learned to play against it (bs thief, phantasms, shatter mes, power nec, even staff ele……………and so much more) so can u already stop crying and l2p? its pathetic that u find no solution to handle AI even as a 12k hp ele (can give u a hint, just run away and call ur friends eq+tp him and hes oneshot).

8. can give u elementalist lessons, 10g/hour.

valar ~~

all this typing just to glance over the fact that the player’s character was face down for the majority of the fight and only managed to win because the game kept doing damage for him…

for that matter, you could go so far as to say the Ranger was just spectating a match between Ostrich and the computer

I think this video is an excellent summary of the PvP in this game, and why people like me will not consider it worthy of E-sport or interesting enough for personal practice.

That summary being that simple facerolling builds on certain classes are more important than your personal skill. In this instance – AI does all the work for you, no skill needed.

“Sad enough” indeed.

not the game did dmg for him, the stupid ele crushing 3 spirits while standing in all of them did dmg for him, do u finally realize it?

ELEorAFK.7935:

not the game did dmg for him, the stupid ele crushing 3 spirits while standing in all of them did dmg for him, do u finally realize it?

it’s completely irrelevant whether Ostrich did something right or wrong. He entered into a fight with another player, but he ended up losing to the computer… do u realize it???

LOL, DID U EVER PLAY PACMAN???? IF THE GHOSTS HIT U, THEY KILL U, AI TOO STRONG.

Eles suck vs. Rangers. It’s not a fight where the Ele has an advantage so what’s the point of fighting them without reinforcement?

Every dodge they have with 50% end regen gives them prot and you do direct damage… its pointless

Ostricheggs.3742:

http://www.twitch.tv/ostricheggs/c/3023189]

Ele VS Spirit ranger. Ranger activates three skills, gets CC’d, ele dies.

oh man that is terrible. i see where eles weaknesses are and gotta say it is not ok.cc is out of control atm and its not fun not being able to react or even block.
i main a mesmer and i have a hard time in spvp vs ranger too. in wvw cc is even worse as everyone runs warrior and they just stunlock u to death while u werent able to use 1 singe skill.
they are not unkillable as even with an op build a bad player is still bad. on my mesm i can at least stealth and escape the cc chain, but this kinda thing i see every day while in wvw or spvp. tu die, boom and then u check the log and see the tons of hits that were dealt to u within 2 seconds……o.0

ELEorAFK.7935:

LOL, DID U EVER PLAY PACMAN???? IF THE GHOSTS HIT U, THEY KILL U, AI TOO STRONG.

My apologies, I was under the impression that PvP meant “Player versus Player” and not “Player vs Player-spectating-his-computer”

thank you for today’s lesson

point is: if u touch it u could die. so avoid it!

now u can thank me for the lesson. still WTS ele lessons 10g/hr btw