Tips for new players!

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Posted by: DaliIndica.9041

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Lets put down some simple tips for new players to help them in getting and helping to create a good pvp experience in pvp. Nothing class specific, just general tips on the game.

-Solo Arena and Team Arena are not places to learn how to play. People will hate you and you will almost always drag a team to losing. If you have ever won in the past it was because the other team had more low level new players to the game than yours did. But this system mostly annoys people and will sour your experience in the long term anyway.

-Thief is not a good class to play if your new. I know I know you want to look like a ninja and do uberleetpsychoslipknotnumetalhaircut damage and that seems awesome. Problem is thieves are a nightmare when played well, and free points when not. Its actually a hard class to play and simple running around and opening up with a huge backstab and then spending the next 4 minutes always downed, its no good. Mesmer would also be a hard choice for a new player.

-Once you have a good understanding of your class, you will realise that the class choice is second to the role your playing. Thieves for example are kings of mobility, terrible at holding points. Guardians for the most part are amazing at holding points and supporting a team, and dreadful and mobility. Its always more important that you play to your strengths rather than trying to do everything.

-Hotjoin winning is less important. Try to use it though to learn how to fight. Learn what the maps look like and what aspects are involved (the trebs, the cannon on skyhammer if your in soloQ but of course teamQ doesnt play it.)

-Try out plenty of classes in hotjoin. As well as understanding your own class, its important to know what the others are going to be doing. You can also learn what moves look like. A warriors axe can hit like a truck, but if you learn to dodge that big burst attack you can really start to push yourself to being a much better player.

-Dodge is perhaps the single most important part of the game. Once you have a good understanding of how to use it, you will find yourself winning a lot more fights. Damage is good but avoiding it is even better.

-You cannot cap a point in stealth, when you have rallied as a warrior from your #3skill (although if you score a kill and are traited to stay alive, you will once the buff/debuff is gone). The Engies S Elixer which makes you tiny and immune, you will also not be able to cap with this but its only a short debuff. (if anyone else can add any that would be grand)

-Capping a point takes one person. Any more people in the point from the same team will not cap it faster. In hotjoin its fine as people want points, but once you move up from that its a very big no no. You will learn when to move the more you play. You will sometimes need to help cap if say the enemy are incoming and you need the numbers. Not always the case, but you will learn when to make that choice. Just never set on one and do it only, be tactical.

-Dont just attack anything, pick your targets. Typical example is 1 on each home point for each team, and a 4v4 in the middle. If you see 2 warriors and a guardian duking it out on the point, but just a little bit further back is an elementalist with a staff casting spells, target him. If you are a bunker hope and pray a thief or dps will take him down, if you are a more mobile or high damage class take him down.

-Bunkers are hard to kill. A very good one will be next to impossible for some classes and you need to accept that. Time and time again you will see a lone thief trying to burst down a guardian, never capping, not really troubling the guardian at all. If you are a bunker, then either bring back up or be prepared for a hideously long fight.

-On home point you are likely to get back up if you are in a fight. If you are on the far point your enemy will be likely to get back up. Take this into consideration when trying for a point.

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Posted by: DaliIndica.9041

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-if skyhammer, bring lots of knockbacks, fears, anything that will put your opponents in those holes or off the sides. Its cheesy, its dirty, people will moan about it, you will moan about it being done to you. We all hate the map, its just something everyone has to accept as they are not removing it. Not any time soon anyway.

-Personal score has very little meaning once you get past a few points. I have been on a winning team in which our highest scorer was 90 points, the rest about 50 with one at 70. The other team had quite a lot more, but they lost the match quite badly. The score at the top is the important one.

-if the match is going badly, take a moment to look at the map. Whats happening? Are people rushing far? is the group breaking up and being overwhelmed? You cannot control the whole match but you can influence things to get back on track. Try to group up with someone fighting to help snowball up your team a little to bring some balance back. If your a roamer get capping like crazy.

-You are going to get beaten. A lot. This is part of any pvp game. Shooters, RPGs, anything really, you are going to get beaten. Accept it and move on. Sometimes there is little you can do to stop it, other than learn to avoid that situation again.

-Class advantage is somewhat Rock Paper Scissors. Every class has a class they have an advantage over and one that has an advantage over them. Not all the same and some have many, and its built more so to builds, but the point is you cannot win them all. Two equally skilled players will come down to the class and build choices.

-Build for something. DOnt just pick traits/weapons/skills willy nilly. Try to have an idea of what you want your char to do and build for that. You dont have to run the top builds in order to be effective, but trying to build a super tanky mesmer that can burst people down and apply awesome conditions just doesnt really work. For any class. Other than warrior and thats a one trick pony that many people have learnt how to deal with. In fact, not picking the obvious choice can sometimes throw other players off. Hambows and axebow warriors are a relaxing fight for many good thieves now. A GS one out of nowhere can start to cause issues again if played well.

-The single greatest way to increase your ability to win every single fight and become a god of warfare is knowledge. All the power and damage doesn’t mean anything if the opponent knows how to lock you down. Once you figure out what each class is doing, you can use that to always put yourself at an advantage. A build will typically have some “way” of getting to you, once you figure it out you can use that to your own ends. If you are good at reacting to your enemy you will do great. If you can keep your combat fluid and away from typical rotations you will be unstoppable. (EG warrior swaps from his bow to his axe, you know that burst skill is coming your way. Dodge. GG you just avoiding one of his biggest hitters. Same with other classes, they have a special thing they will do, counter it, be unpredictable, jobs a good un)

-Asura has an advantage, Norns do not. A lot of the skill in this game will come from reading what your target is doing. If you are a 15foot norn with a giant sword, not only is it very easy to see what you are doing but you will also be a target. Small is better sadly until they fix that issue. But whilst its here you may as well use it, or you will suffer from those willing to do so. (You can of course use this to your advantage at higher levels but thats a different subject).(also not just norns, but I was picking them as they are typically very tall. Height is key. Also, I would say something to be said for keeping a very plain and boring looking outfit for pvp is not a bad idea. That guy with the tenticles, flaming swords and a 40footnorn with spikes all over him stands out like lighthouse)

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Posted by: Seifer Thalaen.7869

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Best tip for new players: Stay out from pvp, not joking just…don’t

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Posted by: silvermember.8941

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The best tip for new players don’t read the PvP forum and if you do, take their opinions with a grain of salt. The sky is always falling here, sometime it is justified but most of the time it isn’t. Arenanet created these forums to contain players like those here.

The second best tips is to research your class forum for the meta build then go try your luck in hotjoin (play now button) until you get the hang of maps. After you get a hang of the maps then upgrade to teamQ, skip solo Queue it is terrible due to a couple of maps and it gives less rewards than teamQ. A lot of people solo queue in TeamQ, so, it is always better to do it.

tl;dr
Don’t read pvp forum, the sky is always falling and hyperbole rules. Hyperbole is considered a currency in these parts.
Read class forum for meta build of your class.
Head to hotjoin to get a hang of the maps.
After you feel comfortable with the maps (skyhammer and spirit watch sucks dont bother with them), move on up to teamQ. TeamQ has better rewards even if you lose and a lot of people just simply soloQ for it.

As u know im pro. ~Tomonobu Itagaki

This is an mmo forum, if someone isn’t whining chances are the game is dead.

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Posted by: Kalaster.9014

Kalaster.9014

Best tip for new players: Stay out from pvp, not joking just…don’t

Right… because you were pro from the start…

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Posted by: Seifer Thalaen.7869

Seifer Thalaen.7869

Best tip for new players: Stay out from pvp, not joking just…don’t

Right… because you were pro from the start…

It’s not a matter of being pro or not…this pvp is just disappointing and totally worthless atm no reason to play it, even pvp veteras (Winning way more than a causal trying it for the first time) keep asking themselves why they should keep going tn for no rewards, no progression and no incentives. And just stop this qq already, yeah pve heroes in pvp are a plague but i wasn’t talkin’ about it…this time, there are other topics about how dumb pvp had become after rtrded “casual friendly” april 15th patch…but here we’re giving tips for new pvp players…and best tip is probably to stay out from pvp since you’re gonna get way more anger (Skyhammer abusing, 4v5, crap matchmaking expec for new ones and so on) than decent rewards..

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