Guild Wars 2

Bunker/support/dps guards ALWAYS receive the Shortend of the stick, and it is very frustrating.

Everytime we receive anything to be happy about, it is nerfed because of QQ or something unrelated to us, even in pvp.

We have countlessly asked Anet time and time again, to increase our base vitality they so abruptly took away in the power creep and boon duration. We get an amulet that helps in that situation, what do they do lol? Remove it? Because of unranked solo q?

We get two elites that are finally on a short cd because guards are so plagued by long CDs. What do they do? Nerf their cooldown before so fast before we get to really enjoy not having such a long elite cd for once. Dps guardians didn’t even use the elite trap and it got nerfed lmao. Only bunker guards did and once again they receive the short end of the stick. Feel my wrath was even a pve nerf……

We get dps options other then pure meditations and all people do is QQ so traps get nerfed faster then you can say smh.

We have a decent vitality option and healing power amulet other then clerics and what happens? IT GETS REMOVED!!’

We had our normal virtue ranged nerfed for NO REASON. Absolutely ZERO.

I’m and kitten tired of the unecessary guardian nerfs. Who the kitten is complaining about support guard? The power creep is so unreal Anet doesn’t even realize it. We ask for changes we never get.

Maybe you guys should spend time actually fixing support guard in these supposed balance changes.

Tempest shouts are so much better than ours it’s not even funny ON A SHORTER CD.

No nerf to unrelenting assault lol? I guess I’ll speak up about it because lower tier players only complain about the obvious while the higher tier remains quiet about it. This skill needs a nerf in the damage aspect or evade frame. No class should do that much damage while evading plus being a gap closer. Ever evade frame dps skill only forces one dodge or block. You cannot do this with unrelenting. That damage is even scary for my bunker guard. Reaper chill/vulnerablility is another story. Scrapper sustain is well…..smh

Guardians always get unwarranted nerfs especially support, even if it’s not meant to be. Did I mention how you guys nerfed purity by combining it with such a bad trait that forces no one to ever take it? And if you don’t take focus ur forced to take a trait a suppor guardian would never use.

My biggest issue is the guard dev had refused to talk to support guardians about its faults in what feels like 3 years, which has led us to where we are at. I would love if we could have some high level guards talk about issues with support guardian with the dev so we can finally get some love we need.

We are almost at a good spot again

Change to burn or DH, adapt.

guardians will still have the controll over the battle we are awesome

Ragnarox.9601:

We are almost at a good spot again

Change to burn or DH, adapt.

Bahahaha.

Minstrel’s ammi was not the way to make bunker guardian viable. It was kitten on this game and the removal has made this game better.

Guardian should have more healing than any other class (due to its low health pool, which should not be changed) but right now it cannot keep up with classes like scrapper or druid. The shouts have become outclassed by other skills over time and need to be reworked in order to keep up with other classes.

Don’t forget about all the unblockable nonsense which keeps being added.

Exedore.6320:

Don’t forget about all the unblockable nonsense which keeps being added.

Yes. This. I forgot to mention this. The amount of unblockable skills now makes SO many of our skills interuptable is beyond dumb.

hehk.8705:

Minstrel’s ammi was not the way to make bunker guardian viable. It was kitten on this game and the removal has made this game better.

Guardian should have more healing than any other class (due to its low health pool, which should not be changed) but right now it cannot keep up with classes like scrapper or druid. The shouts have become outclassed by other skills over time and need to be reworked in order to keep up with other classes.

I’m not saying it was a way to make it viable but it did help address one issue we’ve always had and it was taken away again…………………………………

with the current power creep 13k hp on a bunker is just not possible. If you run a build fully dedicated towards support and tankyness and then get oneshotted by one single mirror blade out of stealth then the build is plain unviable. Bunker guard has been unviable since spezialisation patch that took away our 300vitality in the traitlines.
Easy change would be to give us back those 300vitality as a minor in Honor line. This way the devs prevent to buff Marauder Guardians because they dont take Honor and still help Bunker guard to stay somewhat relevant
I think Bunker guard does promote healty gameplay, because it allows other people to run more classy and also encourages enemys to run more offensive to kill them quicker. Bunker Guard can still be easily outrotated so it wont be meta with 300+vitality. It will just be worth a pick. Without adding vitality we will go back to 4 hybrid + one thief/revenant. We all know how healty that gameplay was. It was so healty they even forbid classstacking in ESL…

Anti.9156:

with the current power creep 13k hp on a bunker is just not possible. If you run a build fully dedicated towards support and tankyness and then get oneshotted by one single mirror blade out of stealth then the build is plain unviable. Bunker guard has been unviable since spezialisation patch that took away our 300vitality in the traitlines.
Easy change would be to give us back those 300vitality as a minor in Honor line. This way the devs prevent to buff Marauder Guardians because they dont take Honor and still help Bunker guard to stay somewhat relevant
I think Bunker guard does promote healty gameplay, because it allows other people to run more classy and also encourages enemys to run more offensive to kill them quicker. Bunker Guard can still be easily outrotated so it wont be meta with 300+vitality. It will just be worth a pick. Without adding vitality we will go back to 4 hybrid + one thief/revenant. We all know how healty that gameplay was. It was so healty they even forbid classstacking in ESL…

Yes absolutely. I don’t get how many times we have to reiterate them bring this back to us. It’s not like they give bunker guards much anyway.

Guardians have 3 good builds atm ( bunker, dh and burn) all of which are in a better spot then any warrior build atm….so maybe look at the state of things before you post reasons why one of the 4 proffessions with a meta build atm is up….just adapt and move on

Chase.2798:

Guardians have 3 good builds atm ( bunker, dh and burn) all of which are in a better spot then any warrior build atm….so maybe look at the state of things before you post reasons why one of the 4 proffessions with a meta build atm is up….just adapt and move on

Lol maybe at the low tier, unranked que levels. What you just said is so false beyond belief. If anet listens to people like you, its no wonder why guardian has not been a thing for almost2 years now at high tier level.

Its just like when noobs complained about 100b at low tier level and then got it nerfed because they didnt even know a dodge button existed. That only made the top warriors suffer when they were already struggling.

lilz shorty.1879:

Bunker/support/dps guards ALWAYS receive the Shortend of the stick, and it is very frustrating.

Everytime we receive anything to be happy about, it is nerfed because of QQ or something unrelated to us, even in pvp.

We have countlessly asked Anet time and time again, to increase our base vitality they so abruptly took away in the power creep and boon duration. We get an amulet that helps in that situation, what do they do lol? Remove it? Because of unranked solo q?

We get two elites that are finally on a short cd because guards are so plagued by long CDs. What do they do? Nerf their cooldown before so fast before we get to really enjoy not having such a long elite cd for once. Dps guardians didn’t even use the elite trap and it got nerfed lmao. Only bunker guards did and once again they receive the short end of the stick. Feel my wrath was even a pve nerf……

We get dps options other then pure meditations and all people do is QQ so traps get nerfed faster then you can say smh.

We have a decent vitality option and healing power amulet other then clerics and what happens? IT GETS REMOVED!!’

We had our normal virtue ranged nerfed for NO REASON. Absolutely ZERO.

I’m and kitten tired of the unecessary guardian nerfs. Who the kitten is complaining about support guard? The power creep is so unreal Anet doesn’t even realize it. We ask for changes we never get.

Maybe you guys should spend time actually fixing support guard in these supposed balance changes.

Tempest shouts are so much better than ours it’s not even funny ON A SHORTER CD.

No nerf to unrelenting assault lol? I guess I’ll speak up about it because lower tier players only complain about the obvious while the higher tier remains quiet about it. This skill needs a nerf in the damage aspect or evade frame. No class should do that much damage while evading plus being a gap closer. Ever evade frame dps skill only forces one dodge or block. You cannot do this with unrelenting. That damage is even scary for my bunker guard. Reaper chill/vulnerablility is another story. Scrapper sustain is well…..smh

Guardians always get unwarranted nerfs especially support, even if it’s not meant to be. Did I mention how you guys nerfed purity by combining it with such a bad trait that forces no one to ever take it? And if you don’t take focus ur forced to take a trait a suppor guardian would never use.

My biggest issue is the guard dev had refused to talk to support guardians about its faults in what feels like 3 years, which has led us to where we are at. I would love if we could have some high level guards talk about issues with support guardian with the dev so we can finally get some love we need.

You are 120% right! I did a ton of theorycrafting and can’t come up with a build that can support or rez without dying many times. If you come up with something, let me know.

I have a super idea. Instead of adding the vitality, why not make honor passively reduce incoming damage when you have regen ticking and then another minor that increases all healing done by a % of healing power (adds onto whatever you’re already doing with x amount of healing power). This way, you still have to dodge/block actively (what guard is known for), but you still have defensive options that aren’t completely broken.

Also, I agree that all the unblockables and the virtues nerf is ridiculously dumb.