Guild Wars 2

To those losing it’s not. And it’s not simply because we are not good enough. Last season I made it to Diamond. This season I am sitting in Emerald with no pips. I have waited days between playing and no change. The high mmr are not moving on. If they are, then new players must have a higher mmr than those being beat down daily. Its a death spiral and Anet knows it. Where the kitten are they?

Buffalo Bruiser.3567:

To those losing it’s not. And it’s not simply because we are not good enough. Last season I made it to Diamond. This season I am sitting in Emerald with no pips. I have waited days between playing and no change. The high mmr are not moving on. If they are, then new players must have a higher mmr than those being beat down daily. Its a death spiral and Anet knows it. Where the kitten are they?

Same stuff, I personally am not enjoying it anymore, at this point I think it’s better to either go back to other game modes or another game until everything get’s fixed, because not climbing after a week is very frustrating for all of us in this situation…

Guy, last season, players were able to reach diamond/legend without ever seeing a good player. It’s like there was multiple versions of each division for all levels of MMR. Just becasue people got to a higher division last season doesn’t mean they belong there.

Hammerguard.9834:

Guy, last season, players were able to reach diamond/legend without ever seeing a good player. It’s like there was multiple versions of each division for all levels of MMR. Just becasue people got to a higher division last season doesn’t mean they belong there.

And the people that got caught in the pro players’ win streaks don’t necessarily belong there now. Conversely, those stuck in emerald and sapphire very much might, but can’t catch a break due to the current match making.

Its kind of hard to know when you we can’t actually see what we’ve got for a MMR value.

Hammerguard.9834:

Guy, last season, players were able to reach diamond/legend without ever seeing a good player. It’s like there was multiple versions of each division for all levels of MMR. Just becasue people got to a higher division last season doesn’t mean they belong there.

Yeah, but that’s not the point, the MMR system is crap, balance is crap, so Season 2 IS crap. I’m not trying to be offensive, I’m just kittened for being at the same spot after trying so hard to move on, I get the worst matchups possible when i’m in the decisive match to go to the upper division…

This is another problem why GRINDING divisions is a bad implementation.

If Division should represent skill, they should not been GRIND.

Let me tell you, I win most of my matches in Season 2, but it’s boring and not competitive at all.

Please join me in the SKILL versus GRIND petition here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Skill-based-or-Grind-based-rank-system/first#post6020606

So Anet, can fix their RANKED based on SKILL and give REWARDS based on GRINDS.

The problem is bad players able to get Diamond and Legendary. How they do it? They get boosted by pres or lucky with matchmaking ive read everywhere that fresh accounts have easier time. If you are played on day 1-2 etc and feeded premades than your whole pvp season experience is ruined for you. The system thinks you are weak player and put you in a team with players that doesn’t even know the basic of pvp, feeding the enemy that most of the time all of them know the basic of pvp. So you stuck in your Division forever and enjoy playing your not fun games with your enemy feeder,helper teammates.

Anytime i can record a video im not just blame teammates, they die in seconds vs most enemy teams, ele in my team die in 2sec, no heals, no good use of cc, they knockback my stability stomp, they doesn’t even try to res or only one, they never stomp, they slow as hell when help required, i defend close alone when inc none comes help, enemy attack i win 1v1 or 1v2 and after i solved 1v2 situation they only come to stomp them so i cant let them bleed out. They can’t put pressure on the enemy team when enemy team notices only me able to do something then everytime 3-4 players on me to zerg me down. Im doing close to a million damage overall every game on a loser team. That should be enough to win games even at high division but i think my teammates probably doing only about 300-400k max. Enemies health hardly going to drop. They cant focus down a necro. They are just not on my skill level but i stuck with them because system is not working right.

Jourdelune.7456:

This is another problem why GRINDING divisions is a bad implementation.

If Division should represent skill, they should not been GRIND.

Let me tell you, I win most of my matches in Season 2, but it’s boring and not competitive at all.

Please join me in the SKILL versus GRIND petition here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Skill-based-or-Grind-based-rank-system/first#post6020606

So Anet, can fix their RANKED based on SKILL and give REWARDS based on GRINDS.

I don’t get your point. S1 was grind, anyone could get to at least diamond as long as they played enough, since we were always matched with people of our level. S2 is actually skill based, and this is why we have so much complaints, like the OP: he cannot go pass his current division because he has reached his level. Regardless how many more games he will do, he is pretty much stuck there.

Silverkey.2078:

Jourdelune.7456:

This is another problem why GRINDING divisions is a bad implementation.

If Division should represent skill, they should not been GRIND.

Let me tell you, I win most of my matches in Season 2, but it’s boring and not competitive at all.

Please join me in the SKILL versus GRIND petition here:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Skill-based-or-Grind-based-rank-system/first#post6020606

So Anet, can fix their RANKED based on SKILL and give REWARDS based on GRINDS.

I don’t get your point. S1 was grind, anyone could get to at least diamond as long as they played enough, since we were always matched with people of our level. S2 is actually skill based, and this is why we have so much complaints, like the OP: he cannot go pass his current division because he has reached his level. Regardless how many more games he will do, he is pretty much stuck there.

It doesn’t match your skill, but the whole team “skill” or what the system thinks, people are complaining about that.

All I see is a bunch of people who got to high divisions in s1 because it was a grind are now complaining that they are losing now. Especially anyone that primarily played a bunker mes last patch.

There were people that claimed to make it to legendary that didn’t even know common game mechanics or class mechanics… that was proof enough for me that the majority of those players probably didn’t belong.

If this new matchmaking changes that of course they are going to complain because they have an over inflated idea of their skill level. Getting hit with the reality that you weren’t as good as you thought is more difficult for some people to understand than to just assume it’s the games fault.

A lot of bitter people didn’t make it to Diamond or Legendary in S1 I see. Well, there are definitely some outliers who didn’t belong there, but most that are there definitely knows a thing or two about pvp.

With that said, it’s not just your skill, build has a lot to do with how good you do. What class does the OP play last season? If you play a class/build really well you can make it diamond, but to be truly good you have to play multiple classes really well.

I believe in this season if you can do decent with Necro and Ele, you should be at least at ruby now.

The only conclusion of this is system is : team A is better than B.really? Nice to know.

I only care about what time the PVP designers are fired.
I regret buying this game, can i take back my money? Jesus.

I was within one pip of advancing to Sapphire tonight, twice. In both cases, the next match was an entirely Emerald team (mine) against an entirely Sappphire team.

I’m now again at the bottom of Emerald t5.

-edit- I finally made it, almost entirely on Mesmer.

I can’t get past first tier of emerald. Win one, lose 3. I don’t know what they did this season, but they really screwed it up. It has nothing to do with personal skill, it’s coordination and people actually working together. One person can’t carry a team.

Especially when that team is fighting people in front of the supply deposit at spawn and STILL dying repeatedly, or constantly going after one base while STILL dying repeatedly.

Nobody communicates in chat or responds, nobody has any desire to actually win the match.

Personally, I don’t think pvp should boil down to standing on a node and waiting for the points to hit a certain number, but given the mechanics and class imbalance I’m not sure there would really be any other mode for pvp.

Anyway, if I somehow manage to make it to ruby I’ll have my precursor wings and can finally be done. At this point, I’d rather them just put the skin on the trading post so I can go back to playing unranked for the fun of it instead of reaching a seemingly unobtainable goal by grinding my soul away in endless losing matches with people who are either too apathetic to be strategic or just plain clueless.

It wasn’t this bad last season. Not until Ruby at least.

The biggest problem I have been facing this season (and the end of last season) was the change they made to how matchmaking works for groups across different divisions. I understand Anet probably did what they did to prevent abuse, but what has happened in non-hardcore guilds that PvP together regardless of skill level is that the result is always a loss. If one ruby player is in the team, all of our ambers also have to face rubies! This gives groups like us a clear disadvantage against 5 rubies solo queuing (yeah you heard that right). It’s sad that I get most of my wins when I play solo. This new matchmaking has killed our incentive to play for fun and play as a group.

Oh and don’t freaking tell me to go play unranked! If the legendary achievements didn’t require Ranked play, I would kiss it good night in a blink.

Burjis.3087:

The biggest problem I have been facing this season (and the end of last season) was the change they made to how matchmaking works for groups across different divisions. I understand Anet probably did what they did to prevent abuse,

The abuse was rampant with ruby/diamond player teaming with an amber to get much easier match ups. Most often it was a diamond player on an alt account also.