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Posted by: Aeroxe.8140

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When I was reading the comments in the twitch chat room in this week’s Go4GuildWars2 NA cup, I was really appalled by the number of toxic comments targetting specific players. There needs to be better monitoring of such behaviour, as such behaviour is hurtful not only to the players actually playing the game, but also to the competitive scene itself. If guild wars 2 is to become esports, more maturity is required of the community and better monitoring is needed by the stream itself.

I have no idea how to fix this, but hopefully this raises some awareness.

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Posted by: Mike.4830

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Yea here is evidence
http://imgur.com/PzhUb5Z

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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you should see the twitch chats for league of legends…

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

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Yea here is evidence
http://imgur.com/PzhUb5Z

Well… If someone is bad, everyone is going to let you know you bad.

Like basketball, when some team is bad… Everyone lets them know they bad.

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Posted by: Chase.8415

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This is really no different then the middle aged fat and drunk men who call football players and when they’ve never played a game themselves.

Welcome to sporting events, people talk trash and a bunch of hypocrites.

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

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just other sign of its improving success , though rules should be in place for Very Abusive language.

the above imgur , isn’t that abusive or rude or insulting to other twitch users.
when an auguement does break out both parties of the arguement should be muted or removed from the channel.

just like a Football match, if it gets any worse than that, Turn off the chat all together and leave the message due to abusive language chat has been turned off, then turn it back on after the match for Q and A or so twitch users can talk between themselfs till the show is over.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

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Because people are expecting the highest level of play when they watch the finals. And when a player dies 15 times in 2 games they get dissapointed.

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Posted by: Lachanche.6859

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Because people are expecting the highest level of play when they watch the finals. And when a player dies 15 times in 2 games they get dissapointed.

Hey give credit where it’s due, he also won many teamfights to his team with well timed backstabs.
Everytime someone went down with most of his cooldowns up it was caed’s work.

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Posted by: Narcarsis.5739

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I’ve never been one to care about what people think. All that I got out of that was how little people understand the game. Our team as a whole has a lot to improve on, just a matter of putting in the time.

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Posted by: Brunners.7251

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People target Caed because he’s good. If he wasn’t good people wouldn’t bother pointing it out any time he dies or makes a mistake.

Really, it’s almost a compliment that people are bothering to heckle him so regularly.

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Posted by: glock.6590

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Caed is one of the best players , I think people don’t target his personal skill but his decisions. In the finals vs abjured he constantly went 1v1 against cele ele/engi and then just died due to unfavorable match up instead helping other fights .

At some point he literally engaged 1v1 with half HP against a cele engi on point. Most people in the chat room were wondering wtf is he doing.

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Posted by: Wyrden.4713

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People target Caed because he’s good. If he wasn’t good people wouldn’t bother pointing it out any time he dies or makes a mistake.

Really, it’s almost a compliment that people are bothering to heckle him so regularly.

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Posted by: BLUna.7928

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For anyone that was in the chat room for the entirety of yesterday it was a lot more than just making fun of players. In general people were being incredibly toxic toward each other to a point where it was almost kittening me off. Everyone knows Twitch chats during large events can be bad, but the only time I have seen Twitch chats get that incredibly toxic toward each other was during other GW2 events. It’s even worse considering some high tier players are the ones instigating it in certain cases. At this point I’m just considering flicking the sub mode switch on during those events.

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Posted by: Acandis.3250

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For anyone that was in the chat room for the entirety of yesterday it was a lot more than just making fun of players. In general people were being incredibly toxic toward each other to a point where it was almost kittening me off. Everyone knows Twitch chats during large events can be bad, but the only time I have seen Twitch chats get that incredibly toxic toward each other was during other GW2 events. It’s even worse considering some high tier players are the ones instigating it in certain cases. At this point I’m just considering flicking the sub mode switch on during those events.

Or you could just ban bkpk…

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Posted by: tichorum.2415

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For anyone that was in the chat room for the entirety of yesterday it was a lot more than just making fun of players. In general people were being incredibly toxic toward each other to a point where it was almost kittening me off. Everyone knows Twitch chats during large events can be bad, but the only time I have seen Twitch chats get that incredibly toxic toward each other was during other GW2 events. It’s even worse considering some high tier players are the ones instigating it in certain cases. At this point I’m just considering flicking the sub mode switch on during those events.

Or you could just ban bkpk…

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Posted by: Guard.6751

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For anyone that was in the chat room for the entirety of yesterday it was a lot more than just making fun of players. In general people were being incredibly toxic toward each other to a point where it was almost kittening me off. Everyone knows Twitch chats during large events can be bad, but the only time I have seen Twitch chats get that incredibly toxic toward each other was during other GW2 events. It’s even worse considering some high tier players are the ones instigating it in certain cases. At this point I’m just considering flicking the sub mode switch on during those events.

Or you could just ban bkpk…

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Posted by: Aaron.2413

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I did not instigate anything nor am I responsible for anyone else’s behavior. If everyone else was “mature” they would not say anything at all. This however is not the case, it was almost 50 people saying something when Caed died. When you play in these tournaments you subject yourself to the wrath and judgement of the almighty beings on the Internet…

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Posted by: GhOst.4019

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For anyone that was in the chat room for the entirety of yesterday it was a lot more than just making fun of players. In general people were being incredibly toxic toward each other to a point where it was almost kittening me off. Everyone knows Twitch chats during large events can be bad, but the only time I have seen Twitch chats get that incredibly toxic toward each other was during other GW2 events. It’s even worse considering some high tier players are the ones instigating it in certain cases. At this point I’m just considering flicking the sub mode switch on during those events.

Correct. It wasn’t just a thing of players taunting the people in the tournaments. It was everyone vs everyone in general. Do the players IN the tournament instigate it a lot, YES. Everyone is at fault, including the players in the tournaments. Tournament players coming into the chat while on death spawn CD to talk trash about other players, doesn’t help matters. As far as him making a mistake and the whole world blowing up on him, that happens to every player. Nobody does or can play perfect 100% of the time. Mistakes happen and you do something dumb once in a while. I say just turn the chat off to everyone and call it a day. People can watch the stream and laugh with their mom and cats at whatever they think is stupid in the match.

I could name the top 2 tournament players that come in and talk trash all tourney, but I am pretty sure everyone knows who they are. Immature/ unprofessional.

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Posted by: Aeroxe.8140

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Okay let’s stop pointing fingers at which parties are responsible and instead focus on a solution. More mods would help, but perhaps shoutcasters could also explain why someone played a certain way that might seem questionable. I honestly have no idea how to fix such a population-wide problem, but even if we can alleviate some of that the esports scene would be better off.

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Posted by: SobeSoul.6910

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Shoutcasters won’t help that problem out. The internet is not a hotbed of maturity.

Either Mods need to diffuse the situation, sub mode gets activated, or let the good times troll.

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Posted by: Aiya.9175

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Blu makes a good point. We know who these people are, they do it week after week. Some of them post regularly on the forums, others play/lose against many of the people they watch on twitch and make snarky comments towards.
At the end of the day, it’s really up to the community to determine what level of toxicity is acceptable. If you continue to play with these people you give tacit approval to their actions.

The fact is this community isn’t full of the greatest people and, quite simply, that’s why it’s not the greatest community. I personally have no problem with Backpack’s twitch antics, but he is an archetype of the kind of player we have in this community.
I don’t wish to discredit the “silent majority” of reasonable players that don’t bother to type in twitch or forums or bm during matches, just seems like the most toxic players are also the loudest.