Guild Wars 2

For heavens sake please make a rank requirement to enter a tourney maybe rank 10? Sounds about right. I can not stand joining a tourney and having a guy join asking me how do you see you rank?? Are you serious? At the end of the match we lost by 100 points and yes it was the rank 2. He was just bloody terrible. Tourneys have turned into hot join there is no need for hot joins anymore and now these champion titles mean nothing.

Or just fix the MMR so it actually works.

THIS. Please put some rank requirement up, sick and tired of losing because I got 2 rabbits in my team…

lol no, that’s not the solution. Just add a proper solo que and a proper matchmaking, that’s all.

Just so I contribute to this thread.

That poor rank 7 engineer was just running to henge every time he respawned all game long.

asp.3784:

THIS. Please put some rank requirement up, sick and tired of losing because I got 2 rabbits in my team…

Agreed. Rank 10+ for tournaments imo.

They do it in pve. You cant go to play fractals if ur not rank 80

What is a rank limit going to do? Hotjoin doesn’t teach you anything at all about tournament play, and rank10 is hardly a lot of experience. The problem is matchmaking, not the players.

It teaches you at least how the map looks like and where the nodes are, or that you need 500 points to win etc. Just Basics, like in GW1 where for you also had to unlock TA with random-arenas first.

LoL & Smite make you get to level 30 before you can do ranked game modes. Different games but the philosophy is sound. Rank 10 seems a happy medium.

Putting a rank requirement on tourney is silly. The quality of competition is hurt by the lack of a game mode for real competition at the moment, not the lack of rank requirement. Coordinated teams playing against a bunch of solo-ques doesn’t make sense, just like Rank 1’s playing against 30+. It isn’t fun for the good teams that face-roll the solos, and it isn’t fun for the solos that get stomped either. Same issue is in play with the inexperienced (just a matter of degrees). The rank requirement wouldn’t fix the root cause, it would just cover up the problem in one instance. There needs to be a tourney that is for team rosters only and one for solo-que only.

PS. Just get rid of 8v8 hot join and make it 5’s. That way people can play solo que and lern something other than how to zerg, and perhaps even learn to be remotely trainable tournament players.

It MIGHT not be the MMR it might be that there is not too many people queueing so instead of having to wait for somebody of your same MMR to queue you get queued with somebody lower-higher than you. It really sucks but if you can carry them then you’re a hero.

“Now our champion titles mean nothing” Lol.. They never meant anthing in the first place.

They definitely need something that stops Rank 1 people in starting armor and weapon sets from being put with a bunch of r40+.

Nothing like having someone on your team call target on the noob, point out the other team is a premade and promptly log out. I honestly cant even blame them.

Myrmidian Eudoros.4671:

PS. Just get rid of 8v8 hot join and make it 5’s.

Or reduce them dramaticaly , whenever custom arenas show up
Custom Servers(rented servers) + 5x 8v8(free servers) + 15x 5v5 (free servers )
And if they insist they like them , let them pay (or use gold) to rent a server
If not , they will be forced to tPvP

Happy customers and happy company(use the money from prize money> more players to the game) :P

This problem is all due to a low pvp population. The MMR does seem to work but without enough players, the system has to place lower ranked players in the tournament with you to reduce queue times. On another note, there are 300+ sPvP servers and only a fraction are ever really full. It just shows how small the pvp population is right now.

For people saying this is not the answer. Please explain why and give a better option because right now I don’t understand why a rank 1 who knows nothing about spvp should be able to “hot join” in a tournament. If that was the case, then why is there hot join with over 300 servers? After rank 10 I feel as though you have got enough practice to understand how the maps work and get a feel for spvp then you can join tourneys. Yeah you probably won’t be as good as most, but at least you can get a feel. I’d take a rank 10 over a rank 1 any day. And for the people saying don’t join solo then QQ .. I enjoy tournaments way more then spvp more of a challenge and a lot of fun. Just don’t like trying to tell someone “go to keep!” With his answer being “what’s that?” LOL come on. This is just not right. And then in map chat I will say please don’t join tournaments at rank 1 thank you. Then I get all this hate from others like don’t join solo QQ when I joined with 2 others and we get a rank 1 and 4.

replace hotjoin with the solo queue system. make the rewards less than the actual tournament play. and within that, make ranks determine who you get grouped with/pitted against.

I think actual MMR has a lot of problems, i think it needs to solve those issues:

1) Separate premede queue from PUG queue (solo/duo or other). I prefer solo/duo queue or another fixed composition because for example there is a lot of difference if a pug is composed by 1-1-1-1-1 people and the other team has 4 people from the same team/guild (with voice communication) and another random guy. SAME composition in queue is required for a good competitive match.

2) Win/lose ratio can’t be the only parameter for making a party. Experience is a another parameter, so it’s not possible to see rank 1 people in a team with 40+ rank people. Rank should be filtered in MMR.

3) Solve the 3-4vs5 people issue. Match shouldn’t start if there are not 5vs5 people, system has to give a chance to replace people before the match starts.

4) MMR for 3-round tournament has a lot of problems, this format doesn’t work so you need to converte in 1vs1 formula. We have two separated rating for those two formats, so convert a format in a solo/duo queue and the other for team premade queue.

If you solve those 4 points, the game will grow up a lot.

Lordrosicky.5813:

asp.3784:

THIS. Please put some rank requirement up, sick and tired of losing because I got 2 rabbits in my team…

Agreed. Rank 10+ for tournaments imo.

They do it in pve. You cant go to play fractals if ur not rank 80

Hate to point this out but any level can go into a fractal, ran one with a level 7 the other day

But on topic, if they do make this change (which makes sense) then they need to change the monthly PvP tournament win achieve. It’s why most jump in, to get their 3 wins.

The real problem is the MMR system in place, it’s horrid and I truely believe it can’t be working as intended. Fix solo queue and MMR and this wont be an issue.