Guild Wars 2

Hi everyone, im a pvp player and ended this season in middle plat 2.
That’s important because during this season i tried to play some tournaments and always got out in the early rounds even with a team made by 3 plat and one legendary.
Not only me but many in my guild had the same experience.
So my question is, why are there tournaments if they can be enjoyed just by a pretty small group of people?
Only teams of legendaries can enjoy this content.
So why isn’t there a division between tournaments so that ur party get a rating and u are matched with similar teams? Of course the prizes would get lower with ur team rating but it would get enjoyable by a bigger group of players and not only for elite ones.
For example a tournament bronze ,gold,plat.
And every team get a rating based on each memeber personal pvp level. Example: one plat,one bronze,2 gold can join gold level tournament.
im sorry for my bad english hope you can get the meaning of this message.

It wouldn’t be right for a good team to get knocked out early for the sake of a worse team.

Did you really just complain that the competitive skill tournaments take too much skill to win?

……it’s called a tournament, not a free prizes for everyone event.

Don’t worry bruh, they cater to the entitled players with participation awards. However, if you want to win, it’s going to take practice with a dedicated group.

Tournaments aren’t supposed to be on equal playing grounds…i know this is GW2 but competition doesn’t slow down for anyone especially in pvp sorry to say the only thing i can tell u is get good my friend.

Might help to have different tournaments sets running simultaneously for different skill teams. Like a rookie cup and pro cup with the rookie cup not letting you compete if your skill rating is too high or if your character was too recently created. Meanwhile the pro cup has no skill rating limits to compete.

I don’t get that, how can people expect tournaments to be easy? Why should there be tournaments for different division? Tournaments aren’t supposed to be easy to win… tournaments are competitive and not easy rewards, what’s ur point of having a bronze tournament or winning it? Does that make you feel like a good player? If you want easy rewards or gold go pve kitten .. the point is if you really want to win a tournament you have to get better and practice as a team… I’ve won plenty of tournaments it’s really not a big deal… and btw the seeding is based on qualificationpoints so if you have a lot qps you won’t face good teams in the early rounds

My advice: get a proper comp and practice as a team with scrims and voice communication
That’s how you can improve the best regarding tournaments

Bad players should not be able to get far in tournaments at all. They should be kept as they are. If people really want to start winning ATs then they need to get better at the game and practice as a team. If Anet starts rewarding bad players by allowing them to get to the final rounds of tournaments, then it is a MASSIVE step back for the little competition that this game has left.

Competition and improving should be encouraged at every opportunity.

This is how I understand it. Blow out matches do not help losing players to improve because the match is so one sided they cannot identify where things went wrong and what to try doing different next time. Tournaments do not exist to help players improve, they exist to identify and award the best team within the tournament.

This is a case of misidentifying what either party is talking about. Players complaining would like an avenue to play as a team against other teams of more comparable skill such that they can improve. They do not want to win an automated tournament, they want to be challenged and improve. Skrims are ideal for this situation, but it is likely they have had no luck finding an additional set of 5 players for a coordinated time. To encourage improvement, some have suggested adding a lower skill tournament that runs simultaneously or a skrim tournament that runs constantly and initiates when enough players are found. In either case, rewards are not equivalent to the normal automated tournament because it isn’t about winning or the rewards, but about practice and improvement.

I don’t know if they are unbalanced. You probably just have a higher level of play. Teams are no longer unorganized groups of people with no comms. Rather they are premade teams of 5 players likely with comms and strategy. Lone wolf carrying tactics don’t work as well.

Im not saying they should be easier but they should be made in a different ways, if you are a gold tier team and get matched with a plat team what can you expect? You can’t even learn nothing cause you get stomped 500-20.
There also isn’t anymore a queue for teams, so tournaments are the only way to play with a premade team of friends, but they are unfair. Im not talkin about the prize which is correct that is made for high tier player but i still don’t see them useful if they are just for like 100 people in all gw2.

I hear if you play venrauri rev it is auto win. Try that :-)

See again this goes down to the issue of conquest is not a competitive map. If one team is rolling voice chat over ip and a team is not, then the team without has a 85% chance of losing. There isn’t much after that then some people being better then others. It could be me and maybe 2 friends and 2 randoms. We could do epic good but when faced with a team with great rotations do to instant voice chat it is a advantage.

Same thing could kind of be said about TDM and targeting but not at this scale. Like gw1 TDM is the only true option for competitive pvp. Dancing in and around little circles requires instant communication. TDM is simple kill or be killed and done.

The solution is painfully simple. Allow 5 man stacks in ranked so new teams can actually practice. Being a team player and grouping up with people to win is a part of pvp. kitten all this solo que garbage where the matchmaker decides the game

A better fix would be to make the tourney like the world cup. You start in group play, then if you get in the top 2 of your group you make the bracket.

The other thing I would do is break it up into 3 divisions. That way everyone is guaranteed more than one match and they should be somewhat competitive.

BTW new teams can always play unranked or scrimmage in hot join. Mixing 5 man with randoms is just going to boost peoples rantings that shouldn’t be boosted.

AleCenta.2190:

Hi everyone, im a pvp player and ended this season in middle plat 2.
That’s important because during this season i tried to play some tournaments and always got out in the early rounds even with a team made by 3 plat and one legendary.
Not only me but many in my guild had the same experience.
So my question is, why are there tournaments if they can be enjoyed just by a pretty small group of people?
Only teams of legendaries can enjoy this content.
So why isn’t there a division between tournaments so that ur party get a rating and u are matched with similar teams? Of course the prizes would get lower with ur team rating but it would get enjoyable by a bigger group of players and not only for elite ones.
For example a tournament bronze ,gold,plat.
And every team get a rating based on each memeber personal pvp level. Example: one plat,one bronze,2 gold can join gold level tournament.
im sorry for my bad english hope you can get the meaning of this message.

If your group really all ended in Plat/Legend, you all should have the individual mechanical skill to compete. Assuming of course you guys played something that requries some sort of player ability, not something a troglodyte could play to get to that level, like DH.

What is happening is you probably are not coordinating well at all.

My suggestion would be to record your gameplay, voice and all, and rewatch it, and analyze. Find out how you get outplayed or why you lose your games.

That really is the only way. If you don’t put in the effort, you won’t be able to win.

suffish.4150:

Bad players should not be able to get far in tournaments at all. They should be kept as they are. If people really want to start winning ATs then they need to get better at the game and practice as a team. If Anet starts rewarding bad players by allowing them to get to the final rounds of tournaments, then it is a MASSIVE step back for the little competition that this game has left.

Competition and improving should be encouraged at every opportunity.

The system itself is too unfair in order to help people getting better. If a team of bronze/silver is constantly put against legendary on 1st round, they will always get rolled 500/50 and get demotivated. In guild wars 1, you had extra rounds where you would face other teams that lost too, and still get a chance to have a few wins against equally skilled opponents.

Either matchs should be totally random, either make more rounds for people that lost first match.

If you want somewhat even games, that’s what the Ranked Queue is for.

Tournament in the 1-round elimination format is supposed to be unbalanced; in fact, you want to pit the best team versus the worst at the start, so the better teams stay on for the finals. You use tournaments to reward the best; if you’re facing someone out of your level, then objectively you’re not equipped to win.

The solution to give everyone a fair chance would be round-robin or swiss-system (which would have some of the match-making you want), but it might take longer than it already is to finish 1 instance of the tournament.

My god, there are actually people here asking for tournaments to be easier. You lost to a better team. There is nothing that can be done from the outside to fix that. Anet can not suddenly make people of equal skill level.

There is no amount of math, balancing, or segmenting that will equalize player skill its about attitude, natural talent, skill, and communication. STOP THIS, this would devastate the pvp community a great deal, even if most the community does do tourne’s it would easily send the message that competition in this game is not wanted, and that the devs fear any bit of tears in a competitive setting where tears are generally the default mode.

I BEG OF YOU stop this and those who are against this stand tall and speak out we cannot let PvP degenerate any further.