Guild Wars 2

Aloha,

IMHO, the new Patch is the best one so far, because it really helped to put some Builds that were decent, but not quite good enough, onto the Map of potentially viable PvP-builds. Here are the builds I’ve been testing for weeks/months and why they might be good enough to play competetively after this Patch

100b Immobilize War
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNBhYDbkzp5N5x6hJOAYKYk6Bc1FX6hYslGA-TsAA0CnIKSVkrITRyisFNsYZxWEA

The build is an allrounder with good sustain and insane CC and pressure-DPS. At first, I thought that the new Burst-Mastery probably wouldn’t be as good as a simple +10% DMG on Greatsword (Slashing Power), but hell – I was so wrong!

It’s actually sick how easy it is to fire off Sword-F1 into 100b every 8 seconds! Once you’re in a fight and have full adrenalin (Healing Surge and Adrenalin on Shouts and Weapon Swap make this quite easy) pretty much all you have to do is switch your weapon twice and you’ll have full adrenalin and your Sword-F1 is rdy to be used again.

CC/Tank War
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fIAQNBiYDbkzp5N5x6BHOAgKYl6Bc1FX6hYslGA-TsAgzCmIySllLLTWyssZNQY1wWEA

Again, the Star of this build is Burst-Mastery: You’ll be able to put out so much CC now! Also, the new dogged March gives you a bit of regen, which makes you more tanky and also makes good use of your abundant healing Power.

Sustain Boonstripper-Thief
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAV8YlYmiO3by9E9JFx2jd2Te6V4raFoZnCuKfA-TsAA0CnImRNjbGzMyZszMsYZxWEA

I always liked the Idea of this build: Tons of dodges, decent CC and DMG and very high Mobility. But I never liked how using the Valk-Amu really didn’t do much for the build, because you couldn’t really utilize the Healing Power. Also, it lacked a bit in DPS.

Now you have your Mug for additional heal and the ability to steel defensive Boons and the new Flanking Strike is just insanely good to apply constant pressure while also helping you with sustainability.

So, what builds did you come up with that work because of the new Patch?

They’re still not viable. Maybe almost viable. What good is HB without GS passives? What good is crit power without chance to crit. YOU could have 200 Crit power but if you had zero precision it doesn’t help you. Obviously thats not thostally the case, you still have som precision and fury but Its not enough in my opinion. Becasue your trading guaranteed damage for hypothetical damage regulated by an RNG.

Boon hate theoretically would boost your damage considerably, but when your not criting and you have traded weapon passives and strength in precision it doesn’t come close to even breaking even. If boon hate would have been in the arms traitline or the defense trait line more buids would certainly be viable the choice to make it a grandmaster trait in discipline hold back any hope that it would help warriors at all.

Warlord.9074:

They’re still not viable. Maybe almost viable. What good is HB without GS passives? What good is crit power without chance to crit. YOU could have 200 Crit power but if you had zero precision it doesn’t help you. Obviously thats not thostally the case, you still have som precision and fury but Its not enough in my opinion. Becasue your trading guaranteed damage for hypothetical damage regulated by an RNG.

Boon hate theoretically would boost your damage considerably, but when your not criting and you have traded weapon passives and strength in precision it doesn’t come close to even breaking even.

Of course it doesn’t deal as much DPS as a Glasscannon 100b War, but in return, it has insanely good Teamsupport, good sustain and of course almost 5 Second-Immobilizes.

And if 8-10k guaranteed DPS (without the opponent using a defensive CD) with a almost 5 sec Immobilize every 8 seconds isn’t enough for you on a heavy support-class with insane movement, then I don’t know what you’re looking for.

It really shouldn’t be played like a glasscannon 100b-War that just went in and out every 60 seconds and hoped the opponent has no CD’s, which was a stupid build IMHO to begin with. This one is a Teamfight pressure build with strong killing-potential – just a very strong allrounder.

Don’t try it if you don’t want, but I’m sure we’ll see more of the War very soon, because the Buffs were actually very good. Ppl just have to get away from the thought that the War needs to be a quick-burst glasscannon and realize that he’s better at high pressure, CC and Teamsupport.

And in case you’ve never played anything but a glasscannon. With Fury (easily 100% uptime on this build) you get 35% crit-chance, which is actually very very strong for any build that doesn’t use a high precision-Amu.

I don’t want to be rude but it seems like you don’t know how to play spvp and make builds. You are putting points into trait lines that don’t even have any synergy in the attribute department and focusing on shouts way way too much.

You can’t just put 30 points into crit damage and have 0 precision/crit chance. You can’t just take 3 shouts and have no stun break/invincibility or cc whatsoever. I mean why are you not wearing condition damage runes and taking some banners into spvp? That also makes no sense and has no synergy or viability.

Godofallu.2935:

I don’t want to be rude but it seems like you don’t know how to play spvp and make builds. You are putting points into trait lines that don’t even have any synergy in the attribute department and focusing on shouts way way too much.

You can’t just put 30 points into crit damage and have 0 precision/crit chance. You can’t just take 3 shouts and have no stun break/invincibility or cc whatsoever. I mean why are you not wearing condition damage runes and taking some banners into spvp? That also makes no sense and has no synergy or viability.

Yes, the 30 Points in crit-dmg are a bit harsh, but it’s worth it because Burst-Mastery is so strong. Besides, 35% crit-chance isn’t low. Have you guys only played Glass-cannons? On Valk-Amu, 35% crit-chance is soooo much – most Ele’s on Valk need to get away with 15-25% at absolute Max.

But you can test out the build with another Amu or more points in Precision, but if you go Zerker-Amu, you have no Support and no Sustain and if you invest into precision-traits, you loose viable Traits and you get Condition-DPS, which really does nothing for the build…

Same goes for the Thief, 22% is solid if you add up the little bit of Fury and the +7% from behind. These are no glasscannons and if you go for sustain, there’s always a trade-off between DPS and Tankyness/Teamsupport and you need to find a good balance.

I haven’t been really active besides Solo-q, but I’ve played on a high level and I plan to do again, but there’s really no reason to believe me other than the curiosity to find out if these new builds work.

Besides, the War has Stunbreakers and “Fear me!” can be used defensively to counter certain bursts as well.

Warlord.9074:

They’re still not viable.

The patch has been out for a day.

Also, the game will drastically change when people are in coordinated teams vs pugs.