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Posted by: PSILO.4068

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Hey Anet, if you’re seriously asking what the difference between ranked and unranked is then I have to kittening wonder if any of you actually play this game. I’m pretty sure we can have ranked without a season. It’s happened before.

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Posted by: Ramoth.9064

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Hey Anet, if you’re seriously asking what the difference between ranked and unranked is then I have to kittening wonder if any of you actually play this game. I’m pretty sure we can have ranked without a season. It’s happened before.

This. Please play something like Dota 2. People play unranked to test builds, and they get serious when its ranked matchmaking. Theres not even really any difference in rewards or what not; the moment you assign a visible value to someones win loss, its serious business.

I also don’t get this insistence from Arenanet to reinvent the wheel. Leaderboards, matchmaking, pips, all that stuff, there are heaps of tried and workable system out there, yet we end up with all these convoluted systems that get people raging all the time.

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Posted by: Alooren.9326

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What about Ranked do you enjoy more than Unranked during off-season?

Is it that you prefer climbing a ladder all the time? Or are there other particular reasons.

The least you can do is lower the amount of time between the Seasons. I feel like a month between Seasons is an incredibly long time. I understand that you guys might need time for balancing and such but it seems like its something that can be worked around during the seasons instead of putting the seasons off completly for an entire Month +

Ranked is a much more enjoyable experience than Unranked. Unranked is the place you go to theorycraft, while Ranked is the place you’d go for competitive fun, and that’s what youre aiming for with Structured PvP Right? Competitive play, with your ESL And all that. You have probably noticed people taking breaks inbetween seasons just because unranked is not enjoyable for them.

Ranked gives something Unranked doesnt, not only is it rewards. But its a sense of accomplishment, teamwork and opposition. This sense of accomplishment is an incredibly vital part of a progressing game. It makes up so much of a players happiness to be able to jump into ranked, try their best to win and then feel good about themselves when they do because they’re moving further and further towards their goal. This does not happen in Unranked, there is no goal to push for. Most people like I myself tend to watch movies while playing Unranked because its so boring and tedious. Ranked encourages people to associate with eachother and to work together and rewards them for doing such and that is the greater feeling, is the feeling that youre doing something better and youre going somewhere while doing it.
Ranked is also the place to improve because you go up against equally matched players or sometimes even better players and that pushes you to learn more and that way you Improve, while Unrankeds mostly are pubstomps

So atleast, please try to lower the amount of time inbetween seasons and you’ll notice an incredibly large amount of the PvP Playerbase be happy and coming back faster. Because lets face it, most of the players that go to Structured PvP are there for the competitive aspect, most casual players go to WvW.

I’m not attacking you guys in any way or telling you that what youre doing is insignificant or bad towards the playerbase. But as for someone whos been playing games purely for PvP for 14 years now, I do feel like this would be the best route and I’m only here in an attempt to help you guys make an already amazing game, even better.

Thanks for hearing me out.

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Posted by: Cyanon.1928

Cyanon.1928

Solution:

1. Bring Ranked back using same MMR from last season played, then reset MMR when next season starts.
2. Reduce pip range from +/-15 to +/-10
3. Nerf Moa (less duration)
4. Avoid class stacking

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Posted by: Wolfric.9380

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What i want to know is if its per class played. There are huge diffrences between classes and the player mastering it. I am a good example. When i play my main i trained i am quite competative. When i play something else and get paired due to my main sucsess rate i get a lot of rants … If i play against below average with my main i can whipe them 1:3 ….
So whatever you do please do it per class and player. (and then donĀ“t allow class swap after map roll)

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Posted by: Mysticjedi.6053

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I’d assume off-season ranked would use unranked/pre-league matchmaking. There we be no pips or division matchmaking at all.

If we used the same mmr, we would know for sure if people’s rating are borked if they change drastically during the off-season.
If we used a different mmr, we could start fresh (bad matches for a while) or copy over the current ranked mmr and let it deviate from there.

If you’ll know for sure by using the same mmr. Please do it. I want to know if perception matches reality with firm numbers. Please.

I suppose what I said isn’t entirely true. We can compare split off-season mmr with on-season mmr just fine and probably much easier. It just may take longer to get another settled mmr that’s accurate opposed to letting a possible inaccurate mmr correct itself.

For any purpose is the league ranking system is accurate it should be similar. In honesty, I feel a lot of things in pvp are in beta. I see no problem with his live test to see ranked really is accurate. You get two benefits from this. First, you see if league is accurate. Second, you give people ranked, which they are asking for.

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Posted by: Classic Perception.2507

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What about Ranked do you enjoy more than Unranked during off-season?

Is it that you prefer climbing a ladder all the time? Or are there other particular reasons.

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Posted by: Terrorsquad.4802

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Between seasons have “Pre-Seasons” so ppl not belonging to Amber etc will be Ruby or w/e at the start.

Or.. Have Solo-Q with Leaderboard between seasons.

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Posted by: aggelos r.5387

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just stop this system with the leagues start to ladders one for solo and one for teams and let the mmr choose the opponets( for team) and opponets and teammeats ( for solo) betewen 100 and 200 place in the ladder (srry for my english.

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Posted by: Seiroxena.6350

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You know why ranked queues has been removed ?? I mean the true reason ??

Well the legend says one night a no name queued in ranked arena and managed to beat veteran players from a well known guild. These guys have had their MMR drop so low and their ranking even lower that they had to close ranked queues to save their honour and stop the outlaw.

Then, they jailed the outlaw in their system and made him fight over and over and over again against the same people he had previously defeated until they get their revenge and try to burn out the outlaw.

Now that the history lesson is done,

Bring back ranked arena queues right away because not only this allows to have better team mates / opponents but this also allows to queue for a cause and prevent clowns and kitten s infesting the games

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Posted by: Seiroxena.6350

Seiroxena.6350

You know why ranked queues has been removed ?? I mean the true reason ??

Well the legend says one night a no name queued in ranked arena and managed to beat veteran players from a well known guild. These guys have had their MMR drop so low and their ranking even lower that they had to close ranked queues to save their honour and stop the outlaw.

Then, they jailed the outlaw in their system and made him fight over and over and over again against the same people he had previously defeated until they get their revenge and try to burn out the outlaw.

Now that the history lesson is done,

Bring back ranked arena queues right away because not only this allows to have better team mates / opponents but this also allows to queue for a cause and prevent clowns and kitten s infesting the games

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Posted by: msalakka.4653

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What about Ranked do you enjoy more than Unranked during off-season?

Is it that you prefer climbing a ladder all the time? Or are there other particular reasons.

In my case, it’s the Unranked I used to enjoy.

Unlike WvW where crafting ascended means I am locked into one build or playstyle for weeks on end, the reason to play sPvP was the freedom in trying out crazy ideas which in WvW would require too high a monetary risk. The Practice and Unranked modes allowed me to try out these builds and play just for the fun of it.

I have 533 matches played, and 0 of these in Ranked. I stay away from it because I am not a competitive-minded player and I want as little to do with the salt and ego as Ranked wants to do with a scrub like me.

Sure, the premades would sometimes come to farm Unranked, but for the most part it was a good place to play. If someone raged after a loss in map chat, people would just say “It’s unranked, what do you expect? Go Ranked if you want flawless.”

Disabling Ranked brings the experts, streamers, and other “pro” players into Unranked and ruins the fun for us and for them.

Then again I play a Mesmer and I don’t like Chrono all that much and the condition build even less, so there’s little reason for me to step foot in sPvP anyway. I see from your signature that you don’t play it either. I don’t blame you.

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