WTS: The Abjured vs Orange Logo Analysis
“rampage warrior” is not quite an accurate build description.
All we wanted was a GvG.
very good analysis and great effort
imo it’s worth to take a deeper look at the different comps because they had a huge impact on the tournement – just some notes/thoughts
Abjured:
-after balance patch abjured played their standard comp again which they’re fimilar with
-using: nec/ele/ele/engi/thief
-necromancer got buffed and ele got buffed hard
-duable ele is super strong on temple because of mobility which is needed to fight on 5 objects
-stronger against oRNGs comp than against TCGs
oRNG
-after balance patch oRNG had to play sth. new which they weren’t very fimilar with
-using: warr/guard/guard/ele/thief
-offguard got nerfed warrior got nerfed hard (old shoutbow > warrior post patch)
-bunkerguard is extremly weak on temple because of no mobility, only 2 classes who can fight eles 1v1
-stronger against TCGs comp than against Abjureds
TCG
-after balance patch TCG played a comp they were fimilar with but they didn’t play that long togeather (merged with rank55)
-using: warr/mesmer/thief/ele/engi
-mesmer got buffed ,warrior got nerfed
-comp has not an important disadvantage on any map
-stronger against abjureds comp than against oRNGs
(edited by dominik.9721)
rampage warrior just means GS/hammer + rampage warrior, no?
Yes, that’s what I was referring to. Sorry if it was unclear. Very good points @dominik!
I don’t think Fraelin was accustomed to dealing with Signet Necros.
It takes a special kind of skillset to make Burn Guardian work against a class that can transfer conditions back. That’s not to say it wouldn’t have worked, he was just ill prepared to go against that type of team composition who can not just out rotate a team, but who can also single them out thanks to Toker.
Abjured adapted very well under these uncharted waters. Abjured were able to efficiently cut ties from Rom’s Bunker Guardian by out rotating them both. Toker’s excellent ability to burst down either Fraelin or Rom, lead to oRNG getting outplayed.
Orange Logo should have stuck with what they’ve been doing best.
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Orng would be doing much better if they have a good mesmer on the team.
Their main weakness is that both guardians have low mobility and they need to create chance of teamfight to gain advantage.
In small scale fights, the extra elementalist Abjured has is too hard to handle. Orng’s best option is to have their burn guard and thief 2v1 the ele. However, as Abjured’s two eles getting adapted to the burn guard. They were able to survive that 2v1 pretty well. In addition, ele has the mobility to easily outrotate a burn guard.
A mesmer/thief combo would be much better. It has better mobility to keep up with elementalist and can use portal to get the bunker guard to better position.
Toker might be the best player in the world when playing thief and they use 2 of the a strongest class. Not knocking them because they are great players but lets not over-analyze stuff too much.
immagine those top teams running a RANGER ah ah.
Remember guys, mesmer is overpowered, but 2 of the top 3 teams aren’t running one. Time to get mesmers nerfed some more.
All of them had thieves. All of them had eles. 2 out of 3 had engineers.
Clearly mesmer was a problem class.
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your comment is in so many different ways just nonsense.
Nobody claimed or complained about mesmer being op in this thread.
The reason why oRNG didn’t play mesmer was that nobody was able to do this successfully.There are not many top tier mesmer – that’s it. But thats not an indicator for saying mesmer is up/op.
Thank you for this instructive analysis.
I was thinking that there is a huge problem for gw2 to be an esport. Result is by far too much tied to power of the class.
Let’s face it: a team do not change drastically its composition two month before a competition.
Thus with the poor balanced noticed in the past months Anet is in the end the king maker.
Very efficient cele ele and engi with surprisingly good medi guard and very powerfull shout bow made it possible for orange logo to win in Boston.
God mode ele and nerf to shout bow and medi guard led to a win of abjured in Cologne.
The big surprise was in fact the win of orange logo vs abjured in the first round.