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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

A week before april 15th i started playing a necro in spvp.
before that i played ranger and warrior (now i play all 3 of them).
now that im good enough with the necro im also playing my ranger an war again.

basiclly after april 15th bunker build light armor classes are all superior to the warrior bunker builds.
now imnt talking about HAMBOW here.
when i write bunker i mean the amulet you are using and the rune.

necro:
ill be honest when im on my necro (bunker/power) i fell like the war doesnt threathen me at all sure he has CC and i have no stability, but a power necro goes into DS and just crits for 2.5k+ per second, sometimes i can take on two wars alone, cuz in ds 1, 4 and 5 can hit multi targets + 3 is fear.

ele:
i have never played it, but i know that ele has the lowest hp and lowest armor, yet now days it survives longer then the class that has the highest of both.

mesmer:
i have never played it, but the mesmer has the same armor and hp as the ele yet it also has stealth and various other ways that dont require skill rather just fast clicking on all the skills.

why is that?

my point:
the HAMBOW warrior did deserve to be nerfed, yet after april 15 it is now the most viable warrior spvp build(still), while taking down builds that were decent.
nerfing healing sig hurt all the bunker builds except the one that it was supposed to,
if you have a longbow and a hammer you will still get enough room to heal more then enough and now you can even share might which makes this build the only build that is looked for by teams(who wouldnt want 15-20 stacks of might?).

summary:
i am annoyed.
i dont want to play HAMBOW.

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Posted by: Arcturus.8109

Arcturus.8109

So why “light” classes should have less surviability again? Do they have more damage or more range as mages in other games? Doesn’t seems so. An if you’ll play all the classes you didn’t played you’ll see that their defence is heavy based on active application of personal skill, not healing signet, tons of armor and hp and godmode stances. Bad ele is instantly dead ele, bad warrior is slightly different from good warrior.

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Posted by: Maverick Holix.1382

Maverick Holix.1382

soooo…..are you qq-ing because you can’t play braindead bunker warr to AFK home and be completely useless?

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Posted by: Redg.9807

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Bunker mesmer ? Dat troll . . .
Play banner bunker if you want to bunker.

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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

So why “light” classes should have less surviability again? Do they have more damage or more range as mages in other games? Doesn’t seems so. An if you’ll play all the classes you didn’t played you’ll see that their defence is heavy based on active application of personal skill, not healing signet, tons of armor and hp and godmode stances. Bad ele is instantly dead ele, bad warrior is slightly different from good warrior.

did i write that they should have less?
yes necro and mesmer have more dammage then war.
ele does not.

war is heavy on stances which last 8-12 seconds and have recharges of 40-60 seconds,
theres nothing “god mode” about them, necro can have 22k DS which can last 25+ seconds if he uses 25% run speed (thats what i do on my necro).
ele actully can go what you call “god mode” and so does mesmer for a short while.
healing sig has a hard counter, poison, there isnt a single class that does not have acsses to poison.

warrior is geared with personal skills which you need to activate like the stances and physical skills (stomp and such), so i didnt understand this argument of yours, ive explicitly wrote that this is not about HAMBOW.

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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

soooo…..are you qq-ing because you can’t play braindead bunker warr to AFK home and be completely useless?

do you think it is a good thing that HAMBOW was supposed to be the one build that gets nerfed but remains the most viable build, and in the process of nerfing it, all other bunker builds except banners (no more braindead no skill play then this one) get nerfed.
and HAMBOW actully didnt get nerfed becuse you can share might now, and guess whos the number one might stacker of all war builds(ok number two after longbow and shield or sword if you go fire aura, but those arent viable aginst groups like the almightey HAMBOW)?

i can see your point, 80% of wars being HAMBOW would make it really easy and predictable from my necro and ranger, but when ill want to play my war (not HAMBOW and not banners) what should i do?

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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

Bunker mesmer ? Dat troll . . .
Play banner bunker if you want to bunker.

you play it and tell me who much skills it requiers and if it is fun to play.
you know exactlly what i mean when i say bunker mesmer, all mesmers do and so do you.

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Posted by: Valentin.2073

Valentin.2073

i can easily beat a hambow 1v1 on my zerker ranger but only if i have Rampage as One available. they can stun and interrupt me all they want for 22 sec to no avail. lol

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Posted by: Ryld.1340

Ryld.1340

Bunker mesmer ? Dat troll . . .
Play banner bunker if you want to bunker.

you play it and tell me who much skills it requiers and if it is fun to play.
you know exactlly what i mean when i say bunker mesmer, all mesmers do and so do you.

Are you talking about PU Mesmer? Because if so, that’s hilarious.

Honestly, I really hope you’re complaining that PU mesmers are holding nodes against you.

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Posted by: a t s e.9614

a t s e.9614

this is true, necro became the new DPS tank

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Posted by: Nausicca.6038

Nausicca.6038

mesmer:
i have never played it, but the mesmer has the same armor and hp as the ele yet it also has stealth and various other ways that dont require skill rather just fast clicking on all the skills.

I like this part.
We have moa too !

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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

Bunker mesmer ? Dat troll . . .
Play banner bunker if you want to bunker.

you play it and tell me who much skills it requiers and if it is fun to play.
you know exactlly what i mean when i say bunker mesmer, all mesmers do and so do you.

Are you talking about PU Mesmer? Because if so, that’s hilarious.

Honestly, I really hope you’re complaining that PU mesmers are holding nodes against you.

i dont care about your mesmer ok? can you stop talking about him?
the topic is about HAMBOW not geting nerfed but all other war builds geting nerfed and the boost light armor classes got which is now superior to the war, id say that the boost is mostly fair, but if you compare them to war they seem alot.

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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

mesmer:
i have never played it, but the mesmer has the same armor and hp as the ele yet it also has stealth and various other ways that dont require skill rather just fast clicking on all the skills.

I like this part.
We have moa too !

as annoying as it is you can avoid it.

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Posted by: Ryld.1340

Ryld.1340

Bunker mesmer ? Dat troll . . .
Play banner bunker if you want to bunker.

you play it and tell me who much skills it requiers and if it is fun to play.
you know exactlly what i mean when i say bunker mesmer, all mesmers do and so do you.

Are you talking about PU Mesmer? Because if so, that’s hilarious.

Honestly, I really hope you’re complaining that PU mesmers are holding nodes against you.

i dont care about your mesmer ok? can you stop talking about him?
the topic is about HAMBOW not geting nerfed but all other war builds geting nerfed and the boost light armor classes got which is now superior to the war, id say that the boost is mostly fair, but if you compare them to war they seem alot.

No, no, let’s talk about you losing nodes to PU mesmers again.

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Posted by: nemka.1803

nemka.1803

Bunker mesmer ? Dat troll . . .
Play banner bunker if you want to bunker.

you play it and tell me who much skills it requiers and if it is fun to play.
you know exactlly what i mean when i say bunker mesmer, all mesmers do and so do you.

Are you talking about PU Mesmer? Because if so, that’s hilarious.

Honestly, I really hope you’re complaining that PU mesmers are holding nodes against you.

i dont care about your mesmer ok? can you stop talking about him?
the topic is about HAMBOW not geting nerfed but all other war builds geting nerfed and the boost light armor classes got which is now superior to the war, id say that the boost is mostly fair, but if you compare them to war they seem alot.

No, no, let’s talk about you losing nodes to PU mesmers again.

i usally dont lose to mesmers, espically to PU, they all have the habbit of walking backwards unlike thier AI’s.
actully im so confident i can beat your PU mesmer i invite you to a duel

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Posted by: Swim.6830

Swim.6830

Yeah try fighting the endless stunlock warrior… so much fun to be locked out for 10 seconds if you only have 1 stunbreaker and one stability source…

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Posted by: Todd.6573

Todd.6573

Honestly, its about kitten time that the heavy classes take the backseat for a while. So tired of bullkitten warriors and guardians.

Then again, i play an ele, so im basically dead no matter what… But still, less warriors pretty please!

(Inb4: “but, but, but warriors have always been perfectly balanced! How dare you?!”)

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Posted by: Pyroathiest.4168

Pyroathiest.4168

Let me restate what the OP said:

Necros are strong.

I’ve never played ele, but here’s my opinion.

I’ve never played mesmer, but let me state a couple incorrect facts and then complain.

….wow.