Guild Wars 2

Jon Peter’s thinks so too, just look at his great build.

5 signet pro right there.

No banners? I’m disappointed :/
Incoming signet nerfs…

Chicks dig signets.

Oh wow… Yeah, I’m done. I quit lol

All hail Jon Peters, gleaming beacon of passion, pillar of the community, harbinger of glorious Signet dominance

big deal

HAHAHAHA, nice XD Someday I’ll fight against/beside a dev too

I don’t get it, do you not want devs to explore builds that are not up to par in spvp and try to figure out how to make them better?

Follidus.8027:

I don’t get it, do you not want devs to explore builds that are not up to par in spvp and try to figure out how to make them better?

8 months later: they’re still trying to figure out why builds like that one doesn’t work.

Boy, my faith in the devs has been restored.

Haha, made my day! Thanks m8!

No (buff) update for the warrior? Okay, fine, so more weeks without gw2. maybe I should just delete the game?! A-net has no plan anyway. Hope dies last.

Follidus.8027:

I don’t get it, do you not want devs to explore builds that are not up to par in spvp and try to figure out how to make them better?

8 months later: they’re still trying to figure out why builds like that one doesn’t work.

Boy, my faith in the devs has been restored.

hardcore pwnage gg wp

Follidus.8027:

I don’t get it, do you not want devs to explore builds that are not up to par in spvp and try to figure out how to make them better?

Folly, he has been using them signets for a while, and I can appreciate the fact that devs don’t run what we do. Maybe he is on meta 2016 or something who knows. GW1 kinda went in a circle of gvg metas.
The weakness of the signet is two fold and simple. No team play and no instant effects. If they make signets instant active on wars, it would actually be a good build imo.

I had a dream last night that warriors got some love. Kinda ended bad though……dang ele dumped a bucket of water all over me.

5 signet is op. You guys just haven’t discovered it yet.

This… explains a lot.

Harbinger.8637:

5 signet is op. You guys just haven’t discovered it yet.

Yeah I heard it’s dominating in the African meta.

Follidus.8027:

I don’t get it, do you not want devs to explore builds that are not up to par in spvp and try to figure out how to make them better?

I’m going to give you a break because I believe you really care about this game but these sorts of fairyland comments from the top players actually hurts the game long term because A-net goes out of there way to put extra stock in your comments and generally dismisses balances concerns from the average player. Maybe I should explain why its a fairyland comment? Because he should know why it doesn’t work long before now already and not be wasting time on closed arguments. This isn’t some scientist out in the field this is a clueless pvp dev wasting his time on something that has been looked at before and deemed unworthy by players much better then him have explaimed why it is unworthy many times before.

Trying to figure out why 5 signet build doesn’t work? It’s not rocket science. The first problem is that the healing signet is awful in comparison to the two other heals and just against every heal ever, the ticks are too low and if u’re getting bursted the heal on use it too low to buy you time. The second is that signet of stamina, while a nice condi removal can’t be your only condi removal, the cd is too long. The third is that you have no stun breaker. All together that means any heavy condi and/or high burst class, specially with a stun/knockdown, will kitten on you. Which is another way of saying pretty much everyone will kitten on you.

How to fix: Replace the useless “Furious Speed” trait with a trait that makes the warrior remove a condi every time it crits on a 10 sec internal cd (that would be a balanced, class appropriate trait that would help warriors all around). Increase the healing signet passive healing by 50%, make the on use heal 4900, but increase the cd to 30 sec to compensate. Make dolyak signet instant cast and a stun breaker, but increase the cd to 80 sec to compensate. And just like that you could actually run an all signet build.

All the hate lulz…

At least the guy is playing the class…

Although I would have liked to burst kill him on my thief!

As if we had trouble believing they have no idea what they’re doing

So let me get this straight….
They buff banners yet he’s using 5 signets?…..something is wrong here

so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

zone.1073:

Follidus.8027:

I don’t get it, do you not want devs to explore builds that are not up to par in spvp and try to figure out how to make them better?

8 months later: they’re still trying to figure out why builds like that one doesn’t work.

Boy, my faith in the devs has been restored.

lol

I bet his rank is 5%

JonathanSharp.7094:

Lukrath.6982:

so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yay buffs to more specs no one likes to play! WHoooooo! passives! so fun!

!

I guess Jon Peters has been testing his signet build since beta then. Haven’t ever seen him using anything but that. But hey, at least warriors will get more buffs.

Are you sure this isn’t an attempt to save face by someone who’s just not very good at his own class?

Unstoppable beasts.

Maybe J kitten o OP he only needs to run Signet War.

Would explain the lack of Warr buffs

Linnes.2678:

Jon Peter’s thinks so too, just look at his great build.

The greatest irony of this post is that the OP’s ability line up is also god awful.

Julius.1094:

Linnes.2678:

Jon Peter’s thinks so too, just look at his great build.

The greatest irony of this post is that the OP’s ability line up is also god awful.

He’s a warrior why should he care? We are an unstoppable profession /cough

JonathanSharp.7094:

Lukrath.6982:

so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I hope that a signet buff is not restricted only to warriors. :P

Mechanically, signets have great potential for fun gameplay. The idea of sacrificing one thing for something else interests me a lot. But currently, they are mostly used for their passive effects, and only when they are worth it. I think signets need to have both meaningful passives and strong actives to make the “sacrifice” mechanic worth it, but when I look at most signets, it seems like you devs opted for a rather mediocre effect for both. Would they be too strong otherwise?

P.S. Would love to see elementalist’s Signet of Earth passive give a flat 10% damage reduction like Guardian’s defensive signet and Signet of Air being a stunbreaker.

Yay buffs to more specs no one likes to play! WHoooooo! passives! so fun!

Let me tell you a shocking revelation. Signets have an activated effect as well. Maybe that’s what needs buffing?

Make signet mastery keep passive s of signets!!

DiogoSilva.7089:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Lukrath.6982:

so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I hope that a signet buff is not restricted only to warriors. :P

Mechanically, signets have great potential for fun gameplay.

Yes.
Signets need a wee bit more though.
Like eles have to go 20-30 water for cleansing since they have TERRIBLE cleansing utilities and no other cleansing traits and low health… that pretty much cuts out any chance at being able to invest any noteworthy trait points into signets (fire shield, protection, fury/swiftness)…

Well, there are two signets, which are okay:
signet of rage
signet of stamina (50% more dodging, plus cleanses all conditions, pity the long cooldown)

However healing signet’s activation time is too long and it’s active healing effect is way too low(among the weakest heals in the game). I think healing signet should remove 1 condition and its activation time should be reduced to 1/2 s. That would promote its active use.

Signet of might, Signet of fury and Dolyak Signet scale badly to level 80. Especially if you compare them with the banners, which gives higher stats to all nearby allies as well. I think signet’s passive effect should be as strong as the equivalent banner (+170), especially considering it takes one slot and affects only only the player character.

Looks like warriors are going to get another useless buff at this patch.

peter.9024:

Make signet mastery keep passive s of signets!!

like a pro gamer!

JonathanSharp.7094:

Lukrath.6982:

so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I love you J.Sharp but please don’t give any false hopes like that lol

JonathanSharp.7094:

It’s important we play all classes, even less popular specs on less popular classes.

Speaking of popular, when can we see another “popular professions” chart again?

I enjoy playing the least popular ones… makes me think I’m somewhat rare and valuable!

JonathanSharp.7094:

Sometimes, as devs, we play bad builds on purpose as we look at ways to improve them.

It’s important we play all classes, even less popular specs on less popular classes.

Also, he’s running that build because of yolo, obvs.

But he’s been running the same build since release, I’ve seen him multiple times. Also, “running it for yolo” is a disrespect towards your team. He may as well have ran in there naked saying “lol don’t attack me, I’m a dev!”

Julius.1094:

Linnes.2678:

Jon Peter’s thinks so too, just look at his great build.

The greatest irony of this post is that the OP’s ability line up is also god awful.

Not even my pic mate, got it from someone else who found him and sent it to me.

It’s okay guys, Jon Peters is going to deliver. Big OP buffs to signets.

Patch notes:
passive effect of Signet of Might gives +95 Power, up from 90.
Healing Signet passive heals for 250 HP per tick, up from 200

Another 8 months later, in 2014:

Jon Peters: “We feel like warriors don’t quite have that sturdy body we envisioned. So,”

Patch notes:
Warrior’s base toughness increased by +10 than before.

zone.1073:

It’s okay guys, Jon Peters is going to deliver. Big OP buffs to signets.

Patch notes:
passive effect of Signet of Might gives +95 Power, up from 90.
Healing Signet passive heals for 250 HP per tick, up from 200

Another 8 months later, in 2014:

Jon Peters: “We feel like warriors don’t quite have that sturdy body we envisioned. So,”

Patch notes:
Warrior’s base toughness increased by +10 than before.

Lol @ zone. The only signet buff that you need is traits. Change the signet cd reduction to include signets have instant cast time. That way dolyak becomes a stun breaker and all of a sudden you are back in the game.

Oh and increase heal sig base healing. Its so bad, even on 16 sec cd because during those 16 sec you do not get any regen.

I still believe Jon Peters dominated the battle with his Signet Warrior because he knows how to play

JonathanSharp.7094:

Sometimes, as devs, we play bad builds on purpose as we look at ways to improve them.

It’s important we play all classes, even less popular specs on less popular classes.

Also, he’s running that build because of yolo, obvs.

Allow me to help you test…

KoS 4 LIFE!

Same team?

spawn camps someone till they rage quit, > Swap teams

KoS 4 LIFE!

Lol

Thundar.3910:

JonathanSharp.7094:

Lukrath.6982:

so…. does tht mean hes gonna buff signets?

MAYYYYYYYYYYYYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yay buffs to more specs no one likes to play! WHoooooo! passives! so fun!

You guys complain about a lack of build diversity.

And then complain about them buffing things that people don’t use.

What…

I really don’t think anyone is really that up in arms, I presume most of the people her are just poking fun.

Hur hur admin using kitten build = why sPvP needs so much work. Ect ect.

1. I have no stun breaker.
2. I have no team utility.
3. No instant abilities (all prone to interruption).
4. I have only 1 condi cleanse, on a 45 second cooldown.
5. My healing signet heals for nothing.

Five reasons why that build doesn’t work. One for each signet!

Community realized this 3 hours into launch. 8 months later, devs are still using it. Hm..

zone.1073:

1. I have no stun breaker.
2. I have no team utility.
3. No instant abilities (all prone to interruption).
4. I have only 1 condi cleanse, on a 45 second cooldown.
5. My healing signet heals for nothing.

Five reasons why that build doesn’t work. One for each signet!

Community realized this 3 hours into launch. 8 months later, devs are still using it. Hm..

You forgot Compassionate Banner tooltip bug. It doesn’t heal for the full amount. It only heals very minimum.