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Posted by: Demon.7832

Demon.7832

Decided I wanted to try and post a couple guild wars 2 pvp vids so I recorded the paid tournament I did last night and put a few of the clips together. The video is only about 2 1/2 minutes long and mostly consists of me getting the kitten beat out of me by two or three people of the opposing team but whatever you gotta start somewhere I guess. Going to try and put some better videos together later which don’t include me dying so much but until then this is my first attempt.

Feel free to make reccomendations, flame, critique or whatever.

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Posted by: Ziddy.2583

Ziddy.2583

Maybe stop clicking ALL skills?

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Posted by: Demon.7832

Demon.7832

Maybe stop clicking ALL skills?

lol I thought someone would post this, not having keybinds just seems to drive people crazy and I would have stuff binded to my mouse but I need to first buy one with extra buttons.

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Posted by: nldixon.8514

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Why axe/dagger? I can’t think of a worse combination. Is the dagger just for the poison on Stalker’s Strike? You’d be better off going with axe off-hand and using the whirl finisher inside Bonfire and Healing Spring for healing bolts and burning bolts.

I applaud you for thinking outside the box and trying something different, but you’d probably have some more success using different weapons. Sword/torch is kind of an odd setup, since you really only get flame aura from the leap, which is useful, but can be applied just as easily by going axe/torch while closing into melee range (or while someone is closing in on you) and swapping to sword/axe, sword/dagger, or greatsword once they’re in melee range. That way you could lay down Bonfire right before they close in on you, put burning on them with axes and Throw Torch, then swap to your melee weapon for fire aura on leap.

Also, you might get more mileage out of Troll Unguent. It can’t be stripped/stolen and you’re already using Signet of Renewal. If you’re still having trouble with conditions, you could always try Empathic Bond.

Spirit of Nature is kind of “bleh” in PvP. I’d swap it out for Rampage as One, mainly for the stability. Protect Me is kind of “bleh” too, in my opinion. Killing your pet to stay alive is kind of a catch 22, since you lose damage and survivability.

What build are you running?

[Edit: About the clicking, it didn’t seem to affect you too much, which is why I didn’t mention it, but if you spend a few hours training yourself to use hotkeys instead of clicking, you’d probably improve your game play significantly.]

[Edit 2: I forgot to mention your use of Spirit of Nature at the end. The self res was pretty clutch.]

(edited by nldixon.8514)

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Posted by: Chesire.9043

Chesire.9043

At least no one can say he’s just spamming Crossfire.

You’re a brave one, and for this I support you.

I personally stopped playing Ranger after the Nov patch and just hating it altogether in WvW. Always keep an eye on my Ranger brethren though.

I say keep experimenting.

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Posted by: Jason Segel.2908

Jason Segel.2908

dude. use a sword main hand dagger off hand = 3 evades, 2 from sword one from dagger. switch to shortbow = 1 evade, lightning reflexes = 1 evade + 2 natural endurance dodge rolls = total of 7 complete evasions of enemy attacks. not sure why u wouldnt want to run a ranger the way i just said if u are going to run in liek that.

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Posted by: tiboi.3108

tiboi.3108

Maybe stop clicking ALL skills?

lol I thought someone would post this, not having keybinds just seems to drive people crazy and I would have stuff binded to my mouse but I need to first buy one with extra buttons.

umm not really, 1-5 is doable with left-hand only while controling AWSD

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Posted by: condiments.8043

condiments.8043

Hey I’m all for making videos, but could you slow the speed a bit next time? Its difficult to tell whats going on.

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Posted by: garethh.3518

garethh.3518

Axe/dagger is decent.
Axe offhand is just terrible.

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Posted by: nldixon.8514

nldixon.8514

Axe/dagger is decent.
Axe offhand is just terrible.

Care to elaborate?

Dagger brings a ranged cripple to the table and an evasive attack with poison. Neither of which do a particularly high amount of damage.

Axe brings a column attack that hits everything on its way out and on its way back in for significantly more damage than either dagger attack and a defensive attack that causes significant damage and vulnerability to all targets in melee range as well as reflecting all projectile attacks for five seconds.

I’m not saying that dagger is worse than axe (I personally use sword/dagger in PvP), I just don’t understand why dagger is being chosen as an off hand. I just picked axe as an example because it’s generally considered the “worst” off hand by most Rangers. There are better arguments for axe and warhorn over dagger.

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Posted by: Panther Chameleon.8465

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This is why I roll longbow/greatsword and I think that it’s the only viable build for pvp because you never want to be in melee with how squishy Rangers are. If they do come at you try and defend with gs and switch to longbow for a knockback, aoe cripple, and rapid fire. I did the trapper/torch cond thing for a while and it’s fun, but stopped after they patched the traps. OP you should try and defend a point with a guardian and stick to high ground. Use guard to place your pet near the cap and you can switch guard with another utility once the cd is done. Your pet will remain guarding and you can use something else like Quickening Zephyr. Also, try experimenting with Siamoth because “plasma” gives you all boons plus combine it with RaO and runes of lyssa which can be very useful in any situation.

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Posted by: nldixon.8514

nldixon.8514

This is why I roll longbow/greatsword and I think that it’s the only viable build for pvp because you never want to be in melee with how squishy Rangers are. If they do come at you try and defend with gs and switch to longbow for a knockback, aoe cripple, and rapid fire. I did the trapper/torch cond thing for a while and it’s fun, but stopped after they patched the traps. OP you should try and defend a point with a guardian and stick to high ground. Use guard to place your pet near the cap and you can switch guard with another utility once the cd is done. Your pet will remain guarding and you can use something else like Quickening Zephyr. Also, try experimenting with Siamoth because “plasma” gives you all boons plus combine it with RaO and runes of lyssa which can be very useful in any situation.

If my computer wasn’t a total piece of junk, I’d gladly take video of my Ranger crushing pretty much every profession in melee combat. I have to run everything on the lowest settings to even play, so if I was running Fraps in the background too, I’d probably be getting like 5 FPS. Hehe.

Ranger is surprisingly durable in melee combat. I very rarely lose one on one fights.

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Posted by: Panther Chameleon.8465

Panther Chameleon.8465

If my computer wasn’t a total piece of junk, I’d gladly take video of my Ranger crushing pretty much every profession in melee combat. I have to run everything on the lowest settings to even play, so if I was running Fraps in the background too, I’d probably be getting like 5 FPS. Hehe.

Ranger is surprisingly durable in melee combat. I very rarely lose one on one fights.

All depends on the build and I should have been more specific. I prefer going glass cannon with zerkers to maximize Longbow damage. Hits for around 1900 on squishy targets. Plus, if you take Beastmaster signet and Save me you can technically have 12 seconds of invulnerability. Don’t get me wrong. You can fight melee and do very well, but I don’t think it’s worth going into every melee skirmish.

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Posted by: Demon.7832

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Why axe/dagger? I can’t think of a worse combination. Is the dagger just for the poison on Stalker’s Strike? You’d be better off going with axe off-hand and using the whirl finisher inside Bonfire and Healing Spring for healing bolts and burning bolts.

I applaud you for thinking outside the box and trying something different, but you’d probably have some more success using different weapons. Sword/torch is kind of an odd setup, since you really only get flame aura from the leap, which is useful, but can be applied just as easily by going axe/torch while closing into melee range (or while someone is closing in on you) and swapping to sword/axe, sword/dagger, or greatsword once they’re in melee range. That way you could lay down Bonfire right before they close in on you, put burning on them with axes and Throw Torch, then swap to your melee weapon for fire aura on leap.

Also, you might get more mileage out of Troll Unguent. It can’t be stripped/stolen and you’re already using Signet of Renewal. If you’re still having trouble with conditions, you could always try Empathic Bond.

Spirit of Nature is kind of “bleh” in PvP. I’d swap it out for Rampage as One, mainly for the stability. Protect Me is kind of “bleh” too, in my opinion. Killing your pet to stay alive is kind of a catch 22, since you lose damage and survivability.

What build are you running?

[Edit: About the clicking, it didn’t seem to affect you too much, which is why I didn’t mention it, but if you spend a few hours training yourself to use hotkeys instead of clicking, you’d probably improve your game play significantly.]

[Edit 2: I forgot to mention your use of Spirit of Nature at the end. The self res was pretty clutch.]

Thanks for all the ideas. I’ve tryed a lot of weapon combinations and pretty much all of them have potential but I think you might be surprised at how well what I’m using can work if you gave it a shot, to be honest my only complaint is the lack of an on demand stun which is why I often times switch up my build to where I am using either sb/sword torch or gs/lb. All of the ranger elites can be pretty powerful in pvp and rampage as one works really great if you are trying to hold or take a point 1v1 but when you are doing paids you will hardly ever see a 1v1 as most of the teams have great teamwork which is why im running spirit of nature now. I do kinda agree that it might help me to practice with hotkeys though.

Oh and I think any of the rangers healing skills have potential but healing spring is just too good with the lV trait in wilderness survival along with the fact that it grants a crazy amount of regen to your allies especially if you have + boon duration

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Posted by: Recently.1043

Recently.1043

Thank god your not playing with ground targeted aoe skills lol……..

Call me when this game gets fixed…. if it ever does….

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Posted by: Aragiel.6132

Aragiel.6132

too fast to watch. Next time dont speed it up that much please.