Guild Wars 2

The matchmaking is unacceptably poor. I’ve just come from two matches in a row with quitters and the same teammate who refuses to fight on point.

I cannot take this seriously as a measure of skill. That’s too bad, but it’s the reality. S8 has lost it’s credibility in my eyes.

MM over 5 matches will be trash in any game. There is an international player by the name of dendi who went on a 14 game losing streak as an 8k mid player. Your average only matters across 150+ games.

I always hate when someone yells out to fight on point in a match. If the point is covered in aoe circles, don’t fight on point. If you are the target of a focus, don’t fight on point, seek to break LoS. The only acceptable reason to yell at your team to fight on point is when they’re off chasing a thf across half the map for no reason.

In my experience I’ve been frustrated more by teammates nose diving into a point and blowing up in seconds than off point fighters.

Kuya.6495:

I always hate when someone yells out to fight on point in a match. If the point is covered in aoe circles, don’t fight on point. If you are the target of a focus, don’t fight on point, seek to break LoS. The only acceptable reason to yell at your team to fight on point is when they’re off chasing a thf across half the map for no reason.

In my experience I’ve been frustrated more by teammates nose diving into a point and blowing up in seconds than off point fighters.

It depends the situation, especially when close scores. When you’re 490-490, it can be better to run in circle in the point , surviving x seconds, and giving 5 points ( and that isn’t even sure) instead of giving more than 5 points upon x seconds.

Sure, that’s a very specific circumstance where holding unto the point for dear life makes sense, but it doesn’t happen very often. Meanwhile, some peope seem to have the idea that it’s better to contest the point for 5 seconds, then die to focus fire and red circles, give the enemy 5 points for your death, leave your team down one member, only to give the enemy the point anyway since they have a chance to team wipe you now.

Kuya.6495:

I always hate when someone yells out to fight on point in a match. If the point is covered in aoe circles, don’t fight on point. If you are the target of a focus, don’t fight on point, seek to break LoS. The only acceptable reason to yell at your team to fight on point is when they’re off chasing a thf across half the map for no reason.

In my experience I’ve been frustrated more by teammates nose diving into a point and blowing up in seconds than off point fighters.

This. A million times this.

It’s only trash players who think they’re too good to lose as often as they do that would yell this for no good reason. Sure, if the entire team is chasing and giving up caps left and right, that’s one thing; but more often than not the “fight on point” philosophy doesn’t fly. It’s better to give up the point, for instance, and stay alive long enough for help to arrive and 2v1; or give up the point in a 1v2 but stay alive long enough to troll those same two players, giving your team an advantage in the rest of the field.

As a scrapper, I regularly decap and cap a point, only to lose it to a 1v2 a few seconds later as I troll and kite them as long as I can, only to retake the point a few seconds later when one of them leaves and I kill the remaining player, only to give it up to another 1v2 a few seconds later, and so on so forth. And this is much, much, much more beneficial than dying on point to a 1v2. Also as LB ranger, I regularly let people decap or even full cap a point only to kill em a few seconds later and retake it for my team, as opposed to “fighting on point”, aka “dying on point” for no good reason.

Savvy.3258:

Kuya.6495:

I always hate when someone yells out to fight on point in a match. If the point is covered in aoe circles, don’t fight on point. If you are the target of a focus, don’t fight on point, seek to break LoS. The only acceptable reason to yell at your team to fight on point is when they’re off chasing a thf across half the map for no reason.

In my experience I’ve been frustrated more by teammates nose diving into a point and blowing up in seconds than off point fighters.

This. A million times this.

It’s only trash players who think they’re too good to lose as often as they do that would yell this for no good reason. Sure, if the entire team is chasing and giving up caps left and right, that’s one thing; but more often than not the “fight on point” philosophy doesn’t fly. It’s better to give up the point, for instance, and stay alive long enough for help to arrive and 2v1; or give up the point in a 1v2 but stay alive long enough to troll those same two players, giving your team an advantage in the rest of the field.

As a scrapper, I regularly decap and cap a point, only to lose it to a 1v2 a few seconds later as I troll and kite them as long as I can, only to retake the point a few seconds later when one of them leaves and I kill the remaining player, only to give it up to another 1v2 a few seconds later, and so on so forth. And this is much, much, much more beneficial than dying on point to a 1v2. Also as LB ranger, I regularly let people decap or even full cap a point only to kill em a few seconds later and retake it for my team, as opposed to “fighting on point”, aka “dying on point” for no good reason.

This man gets it!

And you’re right. It’s usually the trash player who thinks he’s good that yells this out to the rest of the team when all he does is die repeatedly on mid cause he can’t seem to stay out of the melee ball.

Funny, I’ve been having a darn good time.

Syktek.7912:

Funny, I’ve been having a darn good time.

Like I said, welcome back to S1. Every one of those wins are on guardian and I suspect with a duo partner.

This kind of disparity is exactly what made S1 so awful.

Ithilwen.1529:

Syktek.7912:

Funny, I’ve been having a darn good time.

Like I said, welcome back to S1. Every one of those wins are on guardian and I suspect with a duo partner.

This kind of disparity is exactly what made S1 so awful.

Hearing a DH brag about doing well is more than just a little annoying. Congrats you can place traps on a point and pull people into them. I mean, maybe they aren’t running that build but that seems unlikely.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Ithilwen.1529:

Syktek.7912:

Funny, I’ve been having a darn good time.

Like I said, welcome back to S1. Every one of those wins are on guardian and I suspect with a duo partner.

This kind of disparity is exactly what made S1 so awful.

Hearing a DH brag about doing well is more than just a little annoying. Congrats you can place traps on a point and pull people into them. I mean, maybe they aren’t running that build but that seems unlikely.

I play an off meta burn guardian. And I duo with another person running the same build.

Traps are dumb.

I’m pretty sure S1 was plagued by unkillable bunkers and being able to smurf for lower division wins. Since it’s known the Duo queue players get faced against higher rated players/teams since it’s baked into the matchmaker. But those pesky facts are often pushed aside because they get in the way.

Syktek.7912:

BurrTheKing.8571:

Ithilwen.1529:

Syktek.7912:

Funny, I’ve been having a darn good time.

Like I said, welcome back to S1. Every one of those wins are on guardian and I suspect with a duo partner.

This kind of disparity is exactly what made S1 so awful.

Hearing a DH brag about doing well is more than just a little annoying. Congrats you can place traps on a point and pull people into them. I mean, maybe they aren’t running that build but that seems unlikely.

I play an off meta burn guardian. And I duo with another person running the same build.

Traps are dumb.

I mean, even while it’s true Burn Guard has greater weaknesses than trap spam, it’s pretty easy to destroy with because of how fast the damage ramp up is. Of course this is from a Warrior so you can understand my annoyance. Sure core War with Might Makes Right as a focus is decent, but man do you have to fight for your kills compared to a lot of other classes. Also, while your sustain is good it requires making sure you miss as few of your attacks as possible.

Then you swap and try out another build and you find yourself going “wow, I have to work so much less for everything.” Of course if you kill anyone as War you get told how easy your class is.

BurrTheKing.8571:

Syktek.7912:

BurrTheKing.8571:

Ithilwen.1529:

Syktek.7912:

Funny, I’ve been having a darn good time.

Like I said, welcome back to S1. Every one of those wins are on guardian and I suspect with a duo partner.

This kind of disparity is exactly what made S1 so awful.

Hearing a DH brag about doing well is more than just a little annoying. Congrats you can place traps on a point and pull people into them. I mean, maybe they aren’t running that build but that seems unlikely.

I play an off meta burn guardian. And I duo with another person running the same build.

Traps are dumb.

I mean, even while it’s true Burn Guard has greater weaknesses than trap spam, it’s pretty easy to destroy with because of how fast the damage ramp up is. Of course this is from a Warrior so you can understand my annoyance. Sure core War with Might Makes Right as a focus is decent, but man do you have to fight for your kills compared to a lot of other classes. Also, while your sustain is good it requires making sure you miss as few of your attacks as possible.

Then you swap and try out another build and you find yourself going “wow, I have to work so much less for everything.” Of course if you kill anyone as War you get told how easy your class is.

Pretty much. Easy to play, not much thinking past your first burst. Just keep spamming symbols and things die.

Equally frustrating is when you get a team of folks and everyone’s plan is to be the guy who sits on the ledge and doesn’t stand on point.

Usually when I’ve seen fight on point yelled out it’s because the team saying it has fewer points and is currently engaged with 3 or more folks in the middle of the map and nowhere near a point.