Guild Wars 2

I would love to see Anet, separate the Pips and MMR systems, either have a

-Pure MMR style system with an MMR reset
Or
- Pure Pip system without and safety nets.

And
-Coiple that with stricter Class stacking Algorithm, since the algorithm currently doesn’t prevent stacking.

I have had matches with no players swapping where one team has 2-3 of one class and the other does not.

Wasn’t season one a pure MMR system, but without the MMR reset?

Wasn’t season two a pure pip system with safety nets?

Isn’t season three both without an MMR reset and with safety nets?

I’m probably mistaken. But if not, they did what you suggested, but only forgetting the most important details that actually make it all work.

Season 1 was pip and MMR but had exploits able to be used, Seaon 2 was both but was set to favor everyone with high MMR more so than season and still had safety nets with a pip range enforced and season 1 exploit removed

They need to have separate systems, they have tried fusing both in different ways to no avail

They need just an MMR system. No reset needed. Tie rewards to your MMR (either current at the end of the season or highest MMR during)

The pip system is flawed to its core. The only way the pip system works is for good players to beat bad players and take their pips. However, pips can’t be zero-sum (only pip transfers), otherwise no one could progress. This is why you need safety nets and win streaks; they create pips. As more pips are added to the pool, players can progress further by transferring pips up the food chain.

MMR would need a reset if they switched to a pure MMR based system due to the horrible matchmaking they introduced with the current leagues and over 2 years of the stale pvp before the leagues, it’s apparent when you roll an alt acct and can skim through the divisions with more ease and speed on a f2p acct vs your main acct if the MMR is ranked, and I’m not even that great of a player.

Exedore.6320:

They need just an MMR system. No reset needed. Tie rewards to your MMR (either current at the end of the season or highest MMR during)

The pip system is flawed to its core. The only way the pip system works is for good players to beat bad players and take their pips. However, pips can’t be zero-sum (only pip transfers), otherwise no one could progress. This is why you need safety nets and win streaks; they create pips. As more pips are added to the pool, players can progress further by transferring pips up the food chain.

EXACTLY. Pips system is just nonsense and needs to be abolished.

Just have MMR system with leaderboard like we had before and you’re good to go.

Are people forgetting the failed pure MMR system that’s been around since launch until the test leaderboards? This system is 3x better believe it or not :/

Saiyan.1704:

Are people forgetting the failed pure MMR system that’s been around since launch until the test leaderboards? This system is 3x better believe it or not :/

The MMR based leaderboards were cool though. You had people actually tryharding, 5 man queueing with TS and playing actual competetive games in normal queues.

If it would have had permanent decay so people couldn’t have played one match a week and stayed on top of the leaderboards it would have been perfect.

Maybe I’m biased though since I liked seing my name on the first page back then. :<