Guild Wars 2

Hmm, given that PVP is already pretty seperate, it would have been interesting if ANet split off PVP into an entirely seperate product, supported by a completely different dev studio. Make the PVP into a free-to-play downloadable game, like so many of its competitors.

ANet creates the art assets, maps, and engine for PVE/WvW, and the PVP dev studio gets to cherry pick and adapt those assets to use in the PVP game.

The PVP studio is carefully chosen to have a good history of supporting online competitive games. They are also smaller and more nimble. PVP balance changes are rolled out quickly and without consideration for PVE, and changes that ANet likes can be rolled back into the main game.

The PVP studio is responsible for its own PVP Cash shop, and revenue earned there is use to fund development of the PVP game.

The PVP game might also be simpler when it comes to non-essential features. Perhaps the only supported language is English, and there is no voice acting. This makes it easy and quick to change content without having to wait for localisation.

Anyways, it seems like such an structure is ideal for this kind of hybrid game. MMOs are massive projects that move very slowly, yet competitive games demand quick and nimble developers. (one reason why so many of the most successful competitive games were originally mods of other games.)

Small and nimble developers can make feature and balance changes quickly, but don’t have the resources to make lots of high quality art/sound assets. Mods overcome this by basing themselves on another game, but having a small studio with the ability to work directly with the parent game developer should yield even better results.

Anyways, I doubt GW2 will ever do this… but I’ll pray for some future game to do so. My next target is Dark Souls 2 :P

I like the idea of making the sPvP section F2P, and make it separate like how GW1 was. I think that’s a really big barrier for GW2 atm. They can’t make really large changes to how classes work or whatever because they don’t want new players to be confused. They don’t want to redesign the warrior or ranger because of their current performance in the PvE world.

Personally, I don’t give a kitten about how different PvP is from PvE anyways, but that’s ArenaNet’s stance. Further separating the two would only be beneficial at this point.

Could say that for any MMO game “Make it seperate”
Only advantage I’d see is we could then remove all the other races and just have humans fighting it out. The main reason the cash shop is currently neglected is probably because we have 5 races instead of 1 which also affected partially why pve can be quite Meh.

This game has a huge install base, if you get 3 million people, and two thousand play your pvp, then it’s not a f2 kitten ue going on here and all it’ll do is create a temporary surge, that will again decrease and be decried by the game “dying”.

Somehow it censored F2p…..Issue, censors are hilarious.

I agree and have been saying this for months. They need to make a separate free to play version for SPvP.

Before they do this though they need to actually release the features they keep talking about.

Earthacis.3862:

I agree and have been saying this for months. They need to make a separate free to play version for SPvP.

Before they do this though they need to actually release the features they keep talking about.

not sure if youre aware or not, but the entire game is f2p…

digitalghost.7891:

Earthacis.3862:

I agree and have been saying this for months. They need to make a separate free to play version for SPvP.

Before they do this though they need to actually release the features they keep talking about.

not sure if youre aware or not, but the entire game is f2p…

not sure if YOUR aware or not, but the game is BUY to play. Click the shop at the top right, look at the 60 dollar price of gw2…..right about now embarrassment should be setting in.

League of legends is f2p, Planetside 2 is f2p, gw2…is not.

digitalghost.7891:

Earthacis.3862:

I agree and have been saying this for months. They need to make a separate free to play version for SPvP.

Before they do this though they need to actually release the features they keep talking about.

not sure if youre aware or not, but the entire game is f2p…

Free doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Also; anet would never allow someone to use their engine. If someone made the game popular then anet would look so stupid that it’s not worth it.

if they made their engine and media public. I can only imagine how long it would take till someone came along and made a 3d moba style map similiar to Smite.

Only ya know, with really good graphics, dodging, no gold/item progression.

Could make several champions you could choose between, each that would get 5 unique weapon skills, 3 unique utility skills, and an elite, with a speacial skill (like adrenaline, death shroud etc).

Each with its own unique look and play style and stats.

Then took one step further and put in an arena system for careless fun, for people to beat on each other and perhaps learn the champions better and settle petty “i could kick your butt” disputes…

Who would still be playing this if they did that?

Zinwrath.2049:

digitalghost.7891:

Earthacis.3862:

I agree and have been saying this for months. They need to make a separate free to play version for SPvP.

Before they do this though they need to actually release the features they keep talking about.

not sure if youre aware or not, but the entire game is f2p…

not sure if YOUR aware or not, but the game is BUY to play. Click the shop at the top right, look at the 60 dollar price of gw2…..right about now embarrassment should be setting in.

League of legends is f2p, Planetside 2 is f2p, gw2…is not.

thats not what f2p means… f2p games just mean no sub..

digitalghost.7891:

Zinwrath.2049:

digitalghost.7891:

Earthacis.3862:

I agree and have been saying this for months. They need to make a separate free to play version for SPvP.

Before they do this though they need to actually release the features they keep talking about.

not sure if youre aware or not, but the entire game is f2p…

not sure if YOUR aware or not, but the game is BUY to play. Click the shop at the top right, look at the 60 dollar price of gw2…..right about now embarrassment should be setting in.

League of legends is f2p, Planetside 2 is f2p, gw2…is not.

thats not what f2p means… f2p games just mean no sub..

not actually its an arguement of semantics. infact a gw2 head in a recent interview had to correct the host when the host said Gw2 was free to play, saying “well…you still have to buy it, its not completely free to play”. If you wanted to freely use the term f2p as only subscriptionless games in todays market 99.99% of games are. F2P now generally refers to no purchase necessary (IE. free to download and play). Gw2 however is not free, you can not just play it without purchasing initially. Which is why several game sites are not listing it as such as the market has shifted and f2p business model is now evolved to completely f2p with micro transations for premium content.

Games that are considered F2p.

Team fortress 2.
League of legends.
Dota 2.
Planetside 2 (an mmo 100%)
Everquest 2 (offers premium content for sub)
(soon mmo) Everquest next (100% free)
. …realisticly the mass majority of mmo’s slated for the end of this year next year will NOT require you to purchase a game, so will be TRUE f2p…at that point GW2 will no doubtedly also come out saying “gw2 now completely f2P”. And thats what people are asking for gw2 to do, atleast in regards to the spvp side of things.

Yes, I too wish that a seperate set of developers (ones who weren’t bad at their jobs) were responsible for designing PvP content.