Guild Wars 2

Hi,

i came back after many months and played sPvP before i left gw2 for a while.

Not sure when and why it changed to that, but why are there sPvP’s, where nearly “all” players from both teams do absolute nothing for objectives or winning and just “dueling” each other, while the rest of both teams stands around the and watches.
As a “comebacker” or “new-player” this is anything else then appealing to do sPvP, as you may as well just stand around, nobody gives a kitten about winning it anyway.

What did i miss in sPvP in GW2 nowadays?

I don’t see a problem with that. To be honest I find Conquest a boring game mode that encourages the burst vs bunker meta, which IMO is not only boring but restricts build variety. I think many would agree with me, people are generally more interested in fighting other people with real builds in PvP, not stand in circles and play the how-long-can-the-bunker-survive/how-quickly-can-I-burst-down-the-bunker game.

Hopefully Anet will take note of the number of Dueling servers in hotjoin and start introducing more interesting PvP game modes. And no, by more interesting game modes I don’t mean Conquest with some other stuff slapped on.

Aio.5430:

Hi,

i came back after many months and played sPvP before i left gw2 for a while.

Not sure when and why it changed to that, but why are there sPvP’s, where nearly “all” players from both teams do absolute nothing for objectives or winning and just “dueling” each other, while the rest of both teams stands around the and watches.
As a “comebacker” or “new-player” this is anything else then appealing to do sPvP, as you may as well just stand around, nobody gives a kitten about winning it anyway.

What did i miss in sPvP in GW2 nowadays?

A-Net refuses to implement dueling, and while I find it pointless when the game’s objective is node control, the general populus wants it enough that they’ve become a mainstay in hotjoin. The main problem is that 8v8 is terrible, and so those of use who don’t want to do tPvP anymore because we don’t have a team and get pubstomped by premades, can’t even find 5v5 matches anymore that easily because they’ve been taken over by duelers.

There’s a select niche of the PvP society in GW2 that is slowly being squeezed out of the game alltogether… the middle ground players. It feels like PvP at the moment is either super casual drop in, drop out, duel a little or premade vs. pug pubstomp action. The upper mid to good players who aren’t super good or elite have no place in the current META without getting frustrated a lot.

In short, I guess what I’m saying is, this dueling thing is a direct result of the game polarizing itself in two directions, you can only enjoy the game’s PvP fully if you are hardcore PvP, or so casual that you don’t even try for match objectives and just fight for some fun with friends.

If you want to play serious and accomplish things with random people, and are a good but not fantastic player, but still want to have a good time while being competitive, currently, this game is doing a very good job of running those players off.

Conquest is a boring game type so players do what they can to have fun.

aydenunited.5729:

A-Net refuses to implement dueling, and while I find it pointless when the game’s objective is node control, the general populus wants it enough that they’ve become a mainstay in hotjoin. The main problem is that 8v8 is terrible, and so those of use who don’t want to do tPvP anymore because we don’t have a team and get pubstomped by premades, can’t even find 5v5 matches anymore that easily because they’ve been taken over by duelers.

There’s a select niche of the PvP society in GW2 that is slowly being squeezed out of the game alltogether… the middle ground players. It feels like PvP at the moment is either super casual drop in, drop out, duel a little or premade vs. pug pubstomp action. The upper mid to good players who aren’t super good or elite have no place in the current META without getting frustrated a lot.

In short, I guess what I’m saying is, this dueling thing is a direct result of the game polarizing itself in two directions, you can only enjoy the game’s PvP fully if you are hardcore PvP, or so casual that you don’t even try for match objectives and just fight for some fun with friends.

If you want to play serious and accomplish things with random people, and are a good but not fantastic player, but still want to have a good time while being competitive, currently, this game is doing a very good job of running those players off.

…that makes rather “sad” sense… its a pitty, as i did quite liked it in beta and early days.
you still do find the odd “normal” match, but if you get one of the duel’o rama ones, it is really off-putting…
cants see issue with not allowing duels like in wow.. yes i said it..

Larynx.2453:

Conquest is a boring game type so players do what they can to have fun.

some may actually like it, but its fully ruined by others… although those that like it dont ruin the duelers game, as its arena’s “fault?”

There are duels only in hotjoin, which is not true pvp.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

There are duels only in hotjoin, which is not true pvp.

pvp = Player versus Player… right?
so, what is “untrue” pvp?

joke a’side, not everyone is doing full-time pvp and still enjoy the odd match, he might be even good in it(tactics, reviving, calling etc…)… i do even go that far and say, that those are the bigger percentage of spvp players…

True PvP consists of tournaments (competitive PvP), if you want to avoid duels, go in these. Hotjoin is subpar PvP and as you said is mostly used for duels, testing and farming rather than competitive PvP.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

True PvP consists of tournaments (competitive PvP), if you want to avoid duels, go in these. Hotjoin is subpar PvP and as you said is mostly used for duels, testing and farming rather than competitive PvP.

I find it silly that people try to define what “true” PvP is. I have heard the argument that Guild Wars 2 will never be true PvP because you can’t gank someone while they are leveling a character in the open world. Hotjoin is a terrible format but it is still PvP.

Can’t really wonder why PvP in this game is so unpopular when duels wont be implemented. The engine of this game is pretty amazing but the game design decisions are pretty poor when it comes to PvP.

Miku Lawrence.6329:

True PvP consists of tournaments (competitive PvP), if you want to avoid duels, go in these. Hotjoin is subpar PvP and as you said is mostly used for duels, testing and farming rather than competitive PvP.

Lol tPvP is competitive ? ahah

It’s nothing but empty right now. (boring also)

Boring yes, empty, no. You’re expecting too much from the game, it won’t attract loads of people, but some sure do play tPvP and sPvP.

So what you’re saying is you joined a game and saw this happening?

Well Im about to BLOW YOUR MIND KID!!! Heres a tip: change the kittening server you are in. OMG INCREDIBLE!!! Yes I know, this concept is impossible for an idiot like you to conceive, but trust me just try it out.

EaGrimdarK.7849:

So what you’re saying is you joined a game and saw this happening?

Well Im about to BLOW YOUR MIND KID!!! Heres a tip: change the kittening server you are in. OMG INCREDIBLE!!! Yes I know, this concept is impossible for an idiot like you to conceive, but trust me just try it out.

Found the dueler.

You know, it’s just like “find the vegan” except with duelers.