What should we expect from future PvP balances?

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Posted by: emtwo.4058

emtwo.4058

Are the developers actually going to play PvP themselves, practice with many different classes, and arrive at rational and thoughtful conclusions about what skills work and don’t work,

Or are they just going to respond to whomever cries the most on the forums, and nerf Heartseeker again?

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Posted by: okplayer.8510

okplayer.8510

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Posted by: Duckzor.4327

Duckzor.4327

Lol mad thief obviously since you can’t spam heartseeker pre-50% and do massive damage.

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Posted by: emtwo.4058

emtwo.4058

I’m not sure what you’re trying to show me here, aside from a Dev stating that “we will change something at some point in the future, but we’re not going to tell you what or when.”

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Posted by: okplayer.8510

okplayer.8510

Lol mad thief obviously since you can’t spam heartseeker pre-50% and do massive damage.

this.
bro they said they are waiting for the meta to balance, thats perfectly acceptable, how about you make more constructive posts illustrating what you think should be balanced instead of just giving the middle finger to anet

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Posted by: emtwo.4058

emtwo.4058

I think it was fairly balanced, then they nerfed HS simply to respond to unwarranted crying. The move was never OP, and I actually never “spammed” it on my thief. It was a utility skill that was only worth the initiative cost because it also did some decent damage. Now it’s not worth the initiative cost because it does very low damage.

But that’s a different topic. My concern here is not about the HS ability, it’s about the apparently knee-jerk reactionary balancing. If you’re just going to let the most vocal whiners balance the game for you, then PvP in GW2 is going to be a hot mess of unplayability.

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Posted by: okplayer.8510

okplayer.8510

I think it was fairly balanced, then they nerfed HS simply to respond to unwarranted crying. The move was never OP, and I actually never “spammed” it on my thief. It was a utility skill that was only worth the initiative cost because it also did some decent damage. Now it’s not worth the initiative cost because it does very low damage.

But that’s a different topic. My concern here is not about the HS ability, it’s about the apparently knee-jerk reactionary balancing. If you’re just going to let the most vocal whiners balance the game for you, then PvP in GW2 is going to be a hot mess of unplayability.

i think its belittling to think that arena net is not aware that whiners are prevalent on the forums, and that games in the past have made this mistake. i think htey are too smart to ruin their game by listening to a bunch of baddy whiners.

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Posted by: emtwo.4058

emtwo.4058

i think its belittling to think that arena net is not aware that whiners are prevalent on the forums, and that games in the past have made this mistake. i think htey are too smart to ruin their game by listening to a bunch of baddy whiners.

Yet the only PvP balance change they’ve made so far is in direct response to “baddy whiners.”

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Posted by: okplayer.8510

okplayer.8510

i think its belittling to think that arena net is not aware that whiners are prevalent on the forums, and that games in the past have made this mistake. i think htey are too smart to ruin their game by listening to a bunch of baddy whiners.

Yet the only PvP balance change they’ve made so far is in direct response to “baddy whiners.”

thieves should not be able to crit somebody with full hp for 6k with one move that is also a gap closer.

and thiefs are still perfectly playable…

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Posted by: Duckzor.4327

Duckzor.4327

People wouldn’t whine about it if it was absurdly strong.

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Posted by: Thundar.3910

Thundar.3910

i think its belittling to think that arena net is not aware that whiners are prevalent on the forums, and that games in the past have made this mistake. i think htey are too smart to ruin their game by listening to a bunch of baddy whiners.

Yet the only PvP balance change they’ve made so far is in direct response to “baddy whiners.”

Or they made the change due to the ability being far to strong, far to easy to use causing an overly simplistic play style for an already simplistic spec. Maybe, just maybe it was changed because it was in reality to strong. I can see those that would wail a cry over the nerfing of an ability if said ability was the crutch of their class, propping them up far beyond what their normal skill levels should entail.

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Posted by: Wolfe.3097

Wolfe.3097

whether the ability was too strong or not, there reason for nerfing it was forum outcry. why? cuz the game hasnt been out long enough for the meta to mature, and even without that HS spam specs only dominated the lowest common denominator, the bad player (tho many assume they are above avg). a good player stomped them, it was rolled endlessly in tournament play, and it was near useless in wvwvw, it had ONE area where it worked, and that was hotjoin spvp.

Anet quite simply are responsible for nerfing too soon due to bad players complaints. i HAD faith in them, it is now shaken, tho not completly gone.

and no im not a bad thief that spammed HS, i personally enjoy backstab builds

edit: and the post alcopaul linked is sad to read, as that is exactly the OPPOSITE of what they did with HS.

say one thing, do another

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Posted by: doko.3276

doko.3276

do if i have one deathtouch skill that kill to one person and cant be evaded it must not be nerfed because it is early on thegame?
this isnt real but it is your reasoning.sorry dude teh thief HS is a finisher and if thiefs can use it out of finisher range and it is good then must be nerfed

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Posted by: Wolfe.3097

Wolfe.3097

do if i have one deathtouch skill that kill to one person and cant be evaded it must not be nerfed because it is early on thegame?
this isnt real but it is your reasoning.sorry dude teh thief HS is a finisher and if thiefs can use it out of finisher range and it is good then must be nerfed

you didnt read my post, or if you did, didnt understand it. im not gonna bother explaining it to you either way, re-read, if you still dont get it, then i guess just keep on trucking with that big case of misunderstanding you ahve there.

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Posted by: doko.3276

doko.3276

whether the ability was too strong or not, there reason for nerfing it was forum outcry.

sorry dude but i only can read to the typical thief that only could kill people with the one bottom spam that teleport him to teh target so he dnt need learn to move and now he cant killing to better players than him.
If one skill is overpower is here on the forums with the cry of people where we can see it.
oh sure im sure that many crys are false and are learn to play case but when the general opinion is that one ksill is OP 90 % of the time is because it is overpower and the forum is good for that

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Posted by: Wolfe.3097

Wolfe.3097

whether the ability was too strong or not, there reason for nerfing it was forum outcry.

sorry dude but i only can read to the typical thief that only could kill people with the one bottom spam that teleport him to teh target so he dnt need learn to move and now he cant killing to better players than him.
If one skill is overpower is here on the forums with the cry of people where we can see it.
oh sure im sure that many crys are false and are learn to play case but when the general opinion is that one ksill is OP 90 % of the time is because it is overpower and the forum is good for that

first it doesnt teleport, it leaps. and lol at arbitrary %, no really its not, not even close, its more hit or miss then that.