What the kitten is up with shortbow rangers?

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Posted by: Aether McLoud.1975

Aether McLoud.1975

All they do is spam their kittening autoattack all day long, maybe use their haste to SPAM AUTOATTACK WAY HARDER. There is not a single class that can cleanse bleeding fast enough to counter them. Oh and also they have 1500 range.

How the kitten are you supposed to counter that? Oh and of course their pet attacks you too all the while. At least the other OP classes need to do something besides running around not even using buttons because AUTOATTACK.

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Posted by: Stu.2841

Stu.2841

I’m pretty sure ranger’s shortbow had an undocumented nerf in the last update..

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Posted by: teviko.6049

teviko.6049

All they do is spam their kittening autoattack all day long, maybe use their haste to SPAM AUTOATTACK WAY HARDER. There is not a single class that can cleanse bleeding fast enough to counter them. Oh and also they have 1500 range.

How the kitten are you supposed to counter that? Oh and of course their pet attacks you too all the while. At least the other OP classes need to do something besides running around not even using buttons because AUTOATTACK.

giggles OMG this is funny! Is this a serious post???

You do realize that rangers are by and far one of the weakest (not worst) but weakest pvp classes?? That stupid pet you refer to (and every ranger in the game) doesn’t deal damage if you move. gasp that should be an exploit, how dare you move when the pet is attacking.

And QZ+ crossfire is teh only burst a ranger gets.

Btw, what class/rank are you? Can I get your name. I’ll see you in game.

On my ranger…

But it won’t be the shortbow you QQ about when we meet.

licks her lips

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Posted by: teviko.6049

teviko.6049

All they do is spam their kittening autoattack all day long, maybe use their haste to SPAM AUTOATTACK WAY HARDER. There is not a single class that can cleanse bleeding fast enough to counter them. Oh and also they have 1500 range.

How the kitten are you supposed to counter that? Oh and of course their pet attacks you too all the while. At least the other OP classes need to do something besides running around not even using buttons because AUTOATTACK.

btw, sb rangers do not have 1500 range. Only traited longbows do.

Oh, that would be the life!

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Posted by: Hammerheart.1426

Hammerheart.1426

Look at the shortbow skill set. The only attack on there that does decent damage is the auto attack. The rest are just support skills.
2 spreads poison wooOOOoOOo
3 is nice for a quick speed buff,
4 cripples n bleeds
5 dazes/stuns

I almost never hit 2, and only hit 4 on fleeing enemies. But 3 and 5 are fantastic, 5 especially since you flank→5→pop quickness and back to auto attack for great damage.

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Posted by: teviko.6049

teviko.6049

Look at the shortbow skill set. The only attack on there that does decent damage is the auto attack. The rest are just support skills.
2 spreads poison wooOOOoOOo
3 is nice for a quick speed buff,
4 cripples n bleeds
5 dazes/stuns

I almost never hit 2, and only hit 4 on fleeing enemies. But 3 and 5 are fantastic, 5 especially since you flank->5->pop quickness and back to auto attack for great damage.

…..

This is as full of fail as the OP.

SB 2* is amazing. If you don’t use it right, its just a spread shot that applies poison. WHOOP-DEE-DOO

If you use it when they are at 50% health and about to pop their heal…You’ve just kittened their heal. Especially useful on guardians.

3* does not give quickness. It fires a shot that deals damage and you evade backwards. Useful for PW thieves or HB warriors, or just in general to make a nusiance of yourself.

4* is great to cripple them so they can’t run away or stall them from closing.

5* you muct behind them for the stun, you get daze for free. Daze is far more useful. Stun breakers galore, I’d rather postpone your actions.

1* Apply bleeds only on flanking attacks. Far too many people knwo not to turn their back on a ranger, not unless they know they can live and get away. The weakest point is that the bleed stacks can all get stripped.

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Posted by: Animosity.5231

Animosity.5231

The “shortbow nerf” referred to is the speed nerf, I assume? That was actually a buff. Due to the incredible speed of the shortbow pre-patch, many shots weren’t even registering. They fixed that by slowing it down, and now all of your shots hit, and QZ is even better with it.

Yeah, the shortbow AA is funny. Eles with Water traits can definitely deal with the bleeds just fine, though. Personally, I have more problems with the Power SB than the condition SB, though the bleeds hurt either way.

Man, if Ele AAs were half as good as that skill we’d have a great condition build haha.

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Posted by: Irascible.8210

Irascible.8210

Yay people complaining about something new! Next lets complain about Engineer survivability! Or… Guardian Hammer knockback! Or… Elementalist downing trebs! Or… Necro condition spreading!

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Posted by: teviko.6049

teviko.6049

Yay people complaining about something new! Next lets complain about Engineer survivability! Or… Guardian Hammer knockback! Or… Elementalist downing trebs! Or… Necro condition spreading!

you forgot warrior eviscerate

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Posted by: cainejw.7142

cainejw.7142

So, the responses here are, “Crossfire is all we have, so it’s OK!”

No, it’s not OK. Anet needs to bring things up so that Rangers have actual options. Being complacent in Crossfire spamming is the problem.

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Posted by: Velisong.9543

Velisong.9543

He meant that the shortbow gives swiftness on skill 3, if it hits something: it pushes you back and gives you swiftness. No where in the post did he say quickness; he said “quick speed buff”.

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Posted by: Jordan.9132

Jordan.9132

Shortbow just got nerfed and does 20%+ less damage then it did before…
It now does mediocre damage at best, I don’t know why you are complaining.
Sure a hasted shortbow will hurt, but it does not even close to the same damage as an axe/greatsword/dagger/entereverweaponinthegamehereexceptlongbow

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Posted by: teviko.6049

teviko.6049

Not true Jordan

Sb is still a great boost for rangers. the utility alone is worth its weight in gold.
The increase in attack speed, as someone posted actually helped us, since now all our attacks land reliably.

It ‘feels’ slower and less reliable than it did, but I assure you, no harm there

Rangers do have options. And the good ones use them. Oftentimes, the reason Ranger continually uses sb 1* is because he’s maintaining range and ifyou blow the CD’s on all the rest of your skills, your left with weapon 1* to spam overt and over.

Its like this with all classes.

A good ranger tho, you’ll never see it coming until its killed you

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Posted by: Bowflex.4502

Bowflex.4502

Rangers are incredibly weak right now in pvp. They rely on auto attack because every other skill tied to the shortbow is about control, movent, or debuffs. number 1, crossfire is the only direct reliable damage skill.

That and
the longbow is kittening awful.

Anyone telling you otherwise is terrible, and thinks too highly of themselves.

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Posted by: Kaniro.7809

Kaniro.7809

What’s up with shortbow rangers? p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-pew. BLEEDS DEAD.

But seriously tho, nothing’s wrong with them.

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