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Posted by: Kavia.8249

Kavia.8249

At this point I think it is mostly speculation. I just thought I’d throw out a few things I’d like to see customizable and hear your thoughts

-match size
-point limit (i.e. make it 1000 for longer games)
-match time limit
-turn cap points on/off
-turn resurrection on/off
-change resurrection timer (hotjoin style vs tourney style, longer, shorter, nonexistent etc)
-points per kill
-time to neutralize/time to cap
-manipulate secondary mechanics (NPC spawn times, repair kit on/off, buff spawn times, point value for secondary objectives)
-scale cap point size
-class restrictions
-amulet restrictions (or even stat restrictions – i.e. no toughness > or < some threshold)
-utility, weapon swap on/off
-map rotation

Any other ideas?

Kavia Kael
Champion Illusionist
Stormbluff Isle

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Posted by: Socram.6587

Socram.6587

I foresee that there will be quite a gap between “what will be” and “a few things” you’d “like to see” ;-)
My guess at what we can modify with the initial release of custom matches:
- Amount of players
- Map rotation

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Posted by: Lukin.4061

Lukin.4061

Hmm, well judging by anet pvp development, I would guess:

- Amount of players
- Amount of maps in the rotation and rotation itself
- The name of the server you rent

Is it just me or the amount of gold pvp players obtain over time is ~1000 times lower than pve players? It is interesting what does anet think about the prices of “renting”…

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

Is it just me or the amount of gold pvp players obtain over time is ~1000 times lower than pve players? It is interesting what does anet think about the prices of “renting”…

I’m not sure if the currency for renting was confirmed yet but I would like them to make Glory Points a form of currency for these custom arenas.

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: shaolin.9716

shaolin.9716

I’d definitely like to see class restriction implemented.

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

What we know.
1. can make it 2vs2 to 8vs8.
2. pick map.
3. can password protect it.

Outside of that its speculation-unless theyve mentioned other things that i have not heard.

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Posted by: Zinwrath.2049

Zinwrath.2049

they did say something about the options people will turn on/off will help them decide what direction to take the game

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

What we know.
1. can make it 2vs2 to 8vs8.
2. pick map.
3. can password protect it.

Outside of that its speculation-unless theyve mentioned other things that i have not heard.

2 and 3 are basic, Point 1 is actually kinda neat…

Here’s what I would need to get excited about Custom Maps:

1) Choose how Points are gathered: set a percentage from 0% to 200% on Kills, Node-Control per Second and secondary Objectives where 100% is the Amount of Points it currently gives.

2) Length of Match and Points needed for win: Pretty Self-Explanatory.

3) a few other Modificators: Respawn-timer, DMG received (maybe ranging from 50% more than now to 50% less) and I guess if Players will not only use this service to play against other teams they know well, it would be beneficial to make Options to restrict certain Classes or make some sort of a Rank-requirement etc.

If they really wanna blow me out of the water, they give us some sort of a “Mapmaker”. It can for example only be one were you could put Objectives on the Maps we already have: Placing 1-5 Nodes (with 2 or maybe 3 Sizes) and placing one or multiple Secondary Objectives on the Map (Set NPC’s, Guild Lord, Spawn for the Relic, Treb, Shrines etc.) And maybe the ability to put down destructable/indestructable Walls…

It would probably cost a lot of ressources to make sth. like this happen, but who knows – maybe thats what they’ve been working on so hard!

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Posted by: evilapprentice.6379

evilapprentice.6379

Is it just me or the amount of gold pvp players obtain over time is ~1000 times lower than pve players? It is interesting what does anet think about the prices of “renting”…

I’m not sure if the currency for renting was confirmed yet but I would like them to make Glory Points a form of currency for these custom arenas.

Lets be fair here – Anet is still a company, and they’ve got bills. PvE players have tons of stuff they can spend real money on – PvP players, not so much. They don’t ask a monthly fee to play the game, so if I’ve got to lay down a bit of real cash for a server rental, thats ok by me (assuming their pricing structure isnt asinine)

If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

Is it just me or the amount of gold pvp players obtain over time is ~1000 times lower than pve players? It is interesting what does anet think about the prices of “renting”…

I’m not sure if the currency for renting was confirmed yet but I would like them to make Glory Points a form of currency for these custom arenas.

Lets be fair here – Anet is still a company, and they’ve got bills. PvE players have tons of stuff they can spend real money on – PvP players, not so much. They don’t ask a monthly fee to play the game, so if I’ve got to lay down a bit of real cash for a server rental, thats ok by me (assuming their pricing structure isnt asinine)

Actually, I think that if the Custom Servers would cost Money (Gems), it could be highly beneficial for PvP and I’d gladly pay for it, if it gives us enough Choices.

In my opinion, ANet shifted their Focus from PvP to PvE, because they make more Profit there. If they could see, that PvP-Players also have Money they are willing to spend, they may put more effort into PvP.

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Posted by: evilapprentice.6379

evilapprentice.6379

Is it just me or the amount of gold pvp players obtain over time is ~1000 times lower than pve players? It is interesting what does anet think about the prices of “renting”…

I’m not sure if the currency for renting was confirmed yet but I would like them to make Glory Points a form of currency for these custom arenas.

Lets be fair here – Anet is still a company, and they’ve got bills. PvE players have tons of stuff they can spend real money on – PvP players, not so much. They don’t ask a monthly fee to play the game, so if I’ve got to lay down a bit of real cash for a server rental, thats ok by me (assuming their pricing structure isnt asinine)

Actually, I think that if the Custom Servers would cost Money (Gems), it could be highly beneficial for PvP and I’d gladly pay for it, if it gives us enough Choices.

In my opinion, ANet shifted their Focus from PvP to PvE, because they make more Profit there. If they could see, that PvP-Players also have Money they are willing to spend, they may put more effort into PvP.

Yeah, that works (because there’s always the option to purchase gems with real money). It doesn’t need to be a cash-only system, it just can’t be based on glory.

If you’re a thief and haven’t
pre-ordered HOT at this point,
save yourself the money and don’t bother.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

Is it just me or the amount of gold pvp players obtain over time is ~1000 times lower than pve players? It is interesting what does anet think about the prices of “renting”…

I’m not sure if the currency for renting was confirmed yet but I would like them to make Glory Points a form of currency for these custom arenas.

Lets be fair here – Anet is still a company, and they’ve got bills. PvE players have tons of stuff they can spend real money on – PvP players, not so much. They don’t ask a monthly fee to play the game, so if I’ve got to lay down a bit of real cash for a server rental, thats ok by me (assuming their pricing structure isnt asinine)

Actually, I think that if the Custom Servers would cost Money (Gems), it could be highly beneficial for PvP and I’d gladly pay for it, if it gives us enough Choices.

In my opinion, ANet shifted their Focus from PvP to PvE, because they make more Profit there. If they could see, that PvP-Players also have Money they are willing to spend, they may put more effort into PvP.

Yeah, that works (because there’s always the option to purchase gems with real money). It doesn’t need to be a cash-only system, it just can’t be based on glory.

Exactly, and it would actually be something that wouldn’t lead to a pay-to-win Scenario and it wouldn’t diminish the enjoyment of the game. Because Players that don’t wan’t to pay, could always join Guilds that have some ppl that pay, they could join Open Servers without PW-Protection and if ANet doesn’t completely fail at making the Custom Arenas, it also wouldn’t allow the ppl paying for them to gain certain Advantages (other than the freedom of choice and maybe knowing better how to play on their respective Settings).

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Posted by: Irenicus.9801

Irenicus.9801

While I can see them go with gems for custom servers, making every custom server require rent in form of gems would most likely make any competitor to this game giggle out of sheer delight. If there was one point where the pvp in this game could be brought back to life, that move would definitely destroy it.

Want to stream scrims? Well you better hope someone in the two teams ponied up for the priviledge of providing Anet with free ads on the internet.

I would however applause the marketing genius behind depriving pvp players of so much hope that they are willing to pay for proper ways of facing other teams.

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

What a sad state we are in when we ask to be charged for custom arenas lol. They can do it IDGAF but I’ve never known a game to charge for it. Will prob backfire Luke paid in that respect.

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

While I can see them go with gems for custom servers, making every custom server require rent in form of gems would most likely make any competitor to this game giggle out of sheer delight. If there was one point where the pvp in this game could be brought back to life, that move would definitely destroy it.

Want to stream scrims? Well you better hope someone in the two teams ponied up for the priviledge of providing Anet with free ads on the internet.

I would however applause the marketing genius behind depriving pvp players of so much hope that they are willing to pay for proper ways of facing other teams.

They could always just give out a free Version with less Options and a Deluxe-Version with all the Features (there should be many though).

I see that stuff like that should be free, unless there truly are some amazing Options, but I also see that ANet will continue to spend very few ressources on PvP if they don’t see any money coming in from that end.

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Posted by: Dardamaniac.1295

Dardamaniac.1295

Imo a custom arena with all the things OP said and more will totally make this game the top esports game in a few weeks.If you give a lot of options to ppl they will soon find the right combination.Even if its not in balance terms it will be defenlty in fun terms.And i believe that this customization must be free for anyone.If you raise the population you can lure more new players.If your population is low and its dropping day by day no matter what you do ppl will keep leaving.Do you think that games like LoL or WoW are perfect or have great mechanics?They have balance?Diversity?
GW2 is right now the best game,just need to raise his population.These games need a high population more than anything and 3 ele nerfs and 5 buffs here and there wont raise the population

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Posted by: Irenicus.9801

Irenicus.9801

While I can see them go with gems for custom servers, making every custom server require rent in form of gems would most likely make any competitor to this game giggle out of sheer delight. If there was one point where the pvp in this game could be brought back to life, that move would definitely destroy it.

Want to stream scrims? Well you better hope someone in the two teams ponied up for the priviledge of providing Anet with free ads on the internet.

I would however applause the marketing genius behind depriving pvp players of so much hope that they are willing to pay for proper ways of facing other teams.

They could always just give out a free Version with less Options and a Deluxe-Version with all the Features (there should be many though).

I see that stuff like that should be free, unless there truly are some amazing Options, but I also see that ANet will continue to spend very few ressources on PvP if they don’t see any money coming in from that end.

They have to spend some money to earn some money. PVP is the badly abused step-child at the moment and it shows. Those that are left might be willing to spend some money on the actual ability to scrim properly, but those who have left will most likely not be lured back by the allure of what would in essence be pay-to-play. Now, if they would do an options way of making stuff fun … letting you skin arenas, skin characters, skin weapons, create awesome logos, buy voice packs that the enemy can hear, special effects, particle effects for skills in various colors, texture packs, rent out space for the teams to put their own commercials on, definitely … the core custom arena availability tho? the pvp-gaming world will make them into an even bigger laughing stock.

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Posted by: Tyler Bearce

Tyler Bearce

Game Designer

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Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

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Posted by: Vena.8436

Vena.8436

Respawn Time
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)

Death match.

(Please let the timer have inf as an option!)

Vena/Var – Guardian/Thief
[Eon] – Blackgate

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

^ Lul what you’re really asking for is to toggle off gaining pts on capturing nodes.
Since if that Score Limit, is “25 pts = game win” then 5 kills is game.

Anyways TY Tyler looks like the options are quite good. I hope the infrastructure allows you to at a later date select “game mode” if others become present in the future so it’s all cohesive.

The great forum duppy.

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Posted by: Ithir Darkleaf.7923

Ithir Darkleaf.7923

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

It’s really nice to hear that, you made my day Tyler

Anyway, I have to point out something that worries me a lot: rank points in custom will be the same that on hot-join for example?
Because if the answer is affirmative we will have a problem with people farming PvP ranks on their private servers with friends/guildies.

~ The light of a new day

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Posted by: Chaos Archangel.5071

Chaos Archangel.5071

Holy crap please tell me this is in the Tuesday patch!?

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

Anyway, I have to point out something that worries me a lot: rank points in custom will be the same that on hot-join for example?
Because if the answer is affirmative we will have a problem with people farming PvP ranks on their private servers with friends/guildies.

That happens in all games, with these kind of systems tbh, actually it’s somewhat common to see even now in 5v5 Hot-joins rooms.

The great forum duppy.

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Posted by: Vena.8436

Vena.8436

Holy crap please tell me this is in the Tuesday patch!?

Its not, but in the SotG they said they are at the point of testing so… soooOOoon.

Vena/Var – Guardian/Thief
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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

@tyler is there any possibility of including other game types into custom arenas, such as keg brawl or other minigames as you add them to the overall game?

Delarme
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Posted by: SAtaarcoeny.8476

SAtaarcoeny.8476

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

It’s really nice to hear that, you made my day Tyler

Anyway, I have to point out something that worries me a lot: rank points in custom will be the same that on hot-join for example?
Because if the answer is affirmative we will have a problem with people farming PvP ranks on their private servers with friends/guildies.

i play this game to beat ppl not get glory ranks. i couldnt fathom going into one of these with ppl saying “ok now we get on node, ok now you get on node” for days at a time. i maybe have 30 min of actual hotjoin play out of my 3k hours on this game. there might be a few ppl that abuse it but i dont think the majority will.

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Posted by: Tyler Bearce

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Anyway, I have to point out something that worries me a lot: rank points in custom will be the same that on hot-join for example?
Because if the answer is affirmative we will have a problem with people farming PvP ranks on their private servers with friends/guildies.

I wouldn’t worry about this too much. This is something we’ve already accounted for.

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Posted by: ensoriki.5789

ensoriki.5789

@tyler is there any possibility of including other game types into custom arenas, such as keg brawl or other minigames as you add them to the overall game?

Would like to see the legendary Keg Brawl as an option. Option: Only 1 Keg out at a time.

The great forum duppy.

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Posted by: Levistis.8356

Levistis.8356

@tyler is there any possibility of including other game types into custom arenas, such as keg brawl or other minigames as you add them to the overall game?

Would like to see the legendary Keg Brawl as an option. Option: Only 1 Keg out at a time.

Yes. Yes. I love keg brawl, especially the first couple of points when I go against a good team.

Magummadweller

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Posted by: daydream.2938

daydream.2938

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

Umm. spectators toggle? Does that mean you have spectator mode ready to come out when custom arenas do?

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Posted by: Rerroll.9083

Rerroll.9083

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

It seems you have the most part done. How is the development going?

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Posted by: Tyler Bearce

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Tyler Bearce

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Umm. spectators toggle? Does that mean you have spectator mode ready to come out when custom arenas do?

That’d be the ideal case, though it’s also conceivable that we’d release Custom Arenas by themselves, if Spectator Mode wasn’t ready at the same time.

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

i don’t wanna seem ungrateful for the update, but it is very depressing to not see anything about node toggling.

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Posted by: AlietteFaye.7316

AlietteFaye.7316

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

i don’t wanna seem ungrateful for the update, but it is very depressing to not see anything about node toggling.

He said that was what they had working currently. Hope that there are other things that they currently don’t have working, but are things they’d like to also add.

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Posted by: milo.6942

milo.6942

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

i don’t wanna seem ungrateful for the update, but it is very depressing to not see anything about node toggling.

He said that was what they had working currently. Hope that there are other things that they currently don’t have working, but are things they’d like to also add.

yes i’m aware of what he said, and that’s why i’m worried.

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Posted by: AlietteFaye.7316

AlietteFaye.7316

yes i’m aware of what he said, and that’s why i’m worried.

Just trying to give you some hope. You didn’t say anything about being “worried” that it wouldn’t be implemented. You said it was depressing that it wasn’t listed, making it sound as though that were the definitive list of all the options they would have. They will more than likely add more, so just wait for it to actually be released and see how you feel then.

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Posted by: dreztina.4820

dreztina.4820

Anyway, I have to point out something that worries me a lot: rank points in custom will be the same that on hot-join for example?
Because if the answer is affirmative we will have a problem with people farming PvP ranks on their private servers with friends/guildies.

I wouldn’t worry about this too much. This is something we’ve already accounted for.

Does that mean you have measures to prevent farming, or you’re just greatly reducing the glory gained in customs?

Also, are you going to give an option to turn off points gained from circles?

Out of Attunement – D/D Ele
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Posted by: chrisk.4320

chrisk.4320

Has it been explained how one will find a custom game?

Will there be a browser for custom games similar to hot joins?

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Posted by: Sprawl.3891

Sprawl.3891

cost to “rent”?

Sprawl – Necro – Eredon Terrace

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Posted by: Valkyriez.6578

Valkyriez.6578

I think you should be able to perma buy a custom server, like a character slot. That way 3rd parties can own thier own server, like GW2guru for example.

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Posted by: waka.9826

waka.9826

Can I make a server just for Role-Playing? I’ve always wanted to have intimate relations with a sylvari.

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Posted by: ChyrosNX.1834

ChyrosNX.1834

And a “Cancel” button please so I can join different servers faster and don’t have to wait 10 secs if the server I joined is full.

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Posted by: Xolo.3580

Xolo.3580

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

I’d just like to see what would happen if you added “Downed State Toggle”.

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Posted by: KrisHQ.4719

KrisHQ.4719

Custom Arenas sound very nice!
Thanks for taking the time giving us some information about them, Tyler!
With the new WvW-patch that is pretty much going to ruin any small-scaled fights / roaming i’ll be looking forward to custom arenas, that is for sure!
Although i dont really care, it would seem like a nice idea to have “Node Toggle” as well. Should be kinda easy to implement and i think a lot would be very grateful!

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Posted by: PowerBottom.5796

PowerBottom.5796

Pretty nice to see Devs comment more on Threads – keep it up guys.

But what I’m a bit concerned about is that I have the feeling that Custom Arenas won’t be ready next Patch. Also, plz include an Option where you can modifiy the amount of Points gained from Kills, Nodes and secondary Objectives. This would really greatly improve the Custom Arenas!

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Posted by: KrisHQ.4719

KrisHQ.4719

But what I’m a bit concerned about is that I have the feeling that Custom Arenas won’t be ready next Patch. Also, plz include an Option where you can modifiy the amount of Points gained from Kills, Nodes and secondary Objectives. This would really greatly improve the Custom Arenas!

Dont want to sound too sure here, but i think it is safe to say that Custom Arenas will NOT be in this patch.
They would have announced it with the other features AND made a blog post, since it is a pretty huge deal for the competitive community.
That is also what i hear Tyler say in his post, so i would be overly surprised if they were released before the April Patch.

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Posted by: Duncanmix.5238

Duncanmix.5238

I just hope for two things:
- it will be free (no way I’m paying to play, and for sure many other players feel same way).
- custom games should not give any glory or rank points. This should be place for top teams to get some proper training, as well as other players who want to improve. This should also be place for friends to have some fun in more relaxed pvp place. This should not be about farming glory and rank.

Gunnar’s Hold

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Posted by: Fnix.5608

Fnix.5608

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

I’d just like to see what would happen if you added “Downed State Toggle”.

Would love this one!

http://nox.no – Norse Oil eXpedition

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Posted by: Gallrvaghn.4921

Gallrvaghn.4921

Options that we have working internally, so far, include:
Name
Password
Message of the Day
Max Players
Minimum Players
Respawn Time
Score Limit
Team Size
Time Limit
Respawn Type (Wave or Individual)
Autobalance Toggle
Lock Gear Toggle
Lock Skills Toggle
Ready Button Toggle
Spectators Toggle
No Stats Toggle
Map selection

i don’t wanna seem ungrateful for the update, but it is very depressing to not see anything about node toggling.

i too would love this to be possible. it would really really give the freedom of creating their own type of pvp matches outside of conquest without making new maps. the secondary objectives of the current maps will become the primary ones. i mean, i don’t think there’s any negative effect of having this option in custom arenas, is there?

“The boss you just killed respawns ten minutes
later. It doesn’t care that I’m there.”

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Posted by: Rerroll.9083

Rerroll.9083

What about

  • toggle: forbid double class
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