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Posted by: Rejerh.1784

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I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

Morwath.9817

Ranger is a bit UNDERPOWERED, no need to nerf.

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Posted by: Lazaar.9123

Lazaar.9123

I swear, there seems to be a thread for each class that says they are overpowered.

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Posted by: Elegy.2159

Elegy.2159

Rangers can be annoying, but they’re not overpowered. Fighting them takes some spatial awareness since they’re at a huge advantage from above and at range. Reflection is your friend.

you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen…

Yep. Their pets are an important mechanic for the profession. Pets can eat cc and remove conditions. But if the pet is dead, it can do neither of those things, and the ranger is SOL.

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Posted by: BlackTruth.6813

BlackTruth.6813

The only thing that needs to be toned down is the fact that Ranger is just an easy profession no matter what build you play.

They’re not that strong ATM but you can’t buff something that’s just flat out easy mode without reworking it into something that’s a little bit harder.

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Posted by: Rejerh.1784

Rejerh.1784

I am gonna make a wild guess about Morwath and Lazaar… you both play Ranger…

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

Morwath.9817

The only thing that needs to be toned down is the fact that Ranger is just an easy profession no matter what build you play.

They’re not that strong ATM but you can’t buff something that’s just flat out easy mode without reworking it into something that’s a little bit harder.

How Ranger is easy? Why Ranger is easy? Since it’s not, playing Ranger properly isn’t easy.

I am gonna make a wild guess about Morwath and Lazaar… you both play Ranger…

I play all classes since knowledge is power.
However my most played are: Necro > Guardian > Warrior > rest.

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Posted by: Rejerh.1784

Rejerh.1784

The only thing that needs to be toned down is the fact that Ranger is just an easy profession no matter what build you play.

They’re not that strong ATM but you can’t buff something that’s just flat out easy mode without reworking it into something that’s a little bit harder.

How Ranger is easy? Why Ranger is easy? Since it’s not, playing Ranger properly isn’t easy.

Agreed it is not, but it does way too many things well imo

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

Morwath.9817

The only thing that needs to be toned down is the fact that Ranger is just an easy profession no matter what build you play.

They’re not that strong ATM but you can’t buff something that’s just flat out easy mode without reworking it into something that’s a little bit harder.

How Ranger is easy? Why Ranger is easy? Since it’s not, playing Ranger properly isn’t easy.

Agreed it is not, but it does way too many things well imo

Too many things? Like?
If I play Power Ranger, all I can do is spike (2), good at nuking from distance (1500m). No condis around.
If I play Condi Ranger, all I can do is condi spam (900m) & evade. No burst around.
If I play Spirit Ranger, all I can do is support. Since no matter if I pick Power or Condi route I sacrifice traits and utilities for supportive stuff.

If you think about it, Ranger usualy does only one thing depending on what kind of Ranger it is.

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

I swear, there seems to be a thread for each class that says they are overpowered.

Warriors/eles/engis are good at everything – OP nerf pls
Thieves can stealth – OP nerf pls
Mesmers can ‘shutdown’ for 10s with moa – OP nerf pls
Engis and necros have AI that require no skill – OP nerf pls
DPS guard has too many blocks considering its damage – OP nerf pls
And now power rangers that can supposedly do everything with no skill – OP nerf pls

Surely if everything is OP, then everything is balanced right?

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Posted by: Valentin.2073

Valentin.2073

this thread is a joke, right?

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Posted by: Dredrum.2563

Dredrum.2563

Immobilize stacking is pretty op though. Rangers not so much.

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Posted by: sminkiottone.6972

sminkiottone.6972

I swear, there seems to be a thread for each class that says they are overpowered.

Even classes that arent playable yet :

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Revenant-OP-needs-nerf/first

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Posted by: oneply.9586

oneply.9586

I am gonna make a wild guess about Morwath and Lazaar… you both play Ranger…

general consensuses amongst experienced players is that rangers are an average to below average class. its also not a “noob” class, just like with every class there is some really cheesey builds that are really simple to play and will do well against newer players. really the only place they do well in is roaming in wvw and getting the drop on a solo player, and even then if you evade or interrupt their burst theyre dead meat.

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Posted by: oneply.9586

oneply.9586

I swear, there seems to be a thread for each class that says they are overpowered.

Even classes that arent playable yet :

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Revenant-OP-needs-nerf/first

ya i couldnt believe that already.
maybe it comes from a LoL player that is used to every champ coming out being OP to sell them(sans Azir…does he still suck?). who knows? people be haters

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

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I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

TL:DR mostly, but I do think the pet regen while downed is a bit out of hand and OP. I think the pet can regen whether its alive or dead.

Maybe if the pets dead, and it can’t regen when the ranger is downed, it wouldn’t be so bad. but that pet heal while down is crazy fast heal

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Posted by: Serdoc.7261

Serdoc.7261

Ranger is the least represented profession in high tier PvP right now, watch the last months worth of ESL tournaments, Rangers are at the bottom. They don’t need a nerf.

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Posted by: Dramen Maidria.1034

Dramen Maidria.1034

I wreck Rangers all the time, they are far from OP. If they are a problem for you it’s because they are either a counter to your own build (I mainly play medi guard so I am their counter) or its a lack of general PvP experience. They definitely don’t “do it all” with one build.

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

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I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

TL:DR mostly, but I do think the pet regen while downed is a bit out of hand and OP. I think the pet can regen whether its alive or dead.

Maybe if the pets dead, and it can’t regen when the ranger is downed, it wouldn’t be so bad. but that pet heal while down is crazy fast heal

The pet rez is fine actually. If you take care of the pet, or get in on the stomp before the pet can rez, it’s not really an issue. Plus it’s on a 20 sec CD before it can be used. If you can’t stomp a ranger within 20 sec. of downing them, something is wrong.

Also if the pet is downed, using “lick wounds” (the pet rez skill) revives the pet before it comes to heal you. But it can still be knocked back/immobilized/feared/etc. to keep it away from the ranger while he bleeds out, also giving you more time to get the stomp.

When I do play ranger, I rarely get the chance to even use “Lick Wounds” as I am usually stomped well before the skill becomes active. And if I do, I even more rarely get back up as my pet is CC’d or I get stomped before rez.

All in all though, ranger is not really OP, has a bunch of counters that can render its most powerful burst useless, and focuses ALOT on positioning to be effective.

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Posted by: Atherakhia.4086

Atherakhia.4086

One issue with Lick Wounds that does need to be fixed is how some skills don’t interrupt it properly. Fear for example. If you fear a pet, once fear ends it simply comes back to the Ranger and continues to heal. Fear is an interrupt, it should cancel Lick Wounds.

But that said, some of the complaints about the Ranger may be legitimate. Perhaps the damage on RF is too high. Perhaps the cooldown on PBS is too short. Perhaps not. What we do know is despite the supposed power of these skills, it’s still not enough to make the class relavent. Either other classes overshadow the Ranger and need to be nerfed, or the Ranger is too weak and needs to be buffed. But either way, the Ranger isn’t contributing anything to PvP or WvW currently.

It’s hard to justify nerfing a class that currently has no reason to exist. If you want to discuss how overpowered the class is, you better be prepared to discuss why no one wants the class on their team and how to improve the class to make it relvant with your suggested nerfs.

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Posted by: Conaywea.5062

Conaywea.5062

yeah they are op , i made a ranger to try it and its ridiculous how easy is to kill people with rapid fire and if they get near just use Gs 2 to deal 5k+ dmg

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

pdavis.8031

yeah they are op , i made a ranger to try it and its ridiculous how easy is to kill people noobs with rapid fire and if they get near just use Gs 2 to deal 5k+ dmg

Fixed for you.

RF has been “nerfed” with a huge tell, and easier to see projectiles. A player can dodge out of the way, evading a huge chunk of damage, can block it, or reflect it. It sucks to take your own RF if it’s been reflected. A good player knows what to look out for, understands when it’s on CD and generally when such a skill is used. (Most rangers spam it, making it easier to deal with.)

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Posted by: gaspara.4079

gaspara.4079

Wait this wasn’t a joke thread? The ranger finally is a viable class in sPvP and already have multiple people thinking its op?

-Someone who has never played a Ranger in GW2 PvP

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

TL:DR mostly, but I do think the pet regen while downed is a bit out of hand and OP. I think the pet can regen whether its alive or dead.

Maybe if the pets dead, and it can’t regen when the ranger is downed, it wouldn’t be so bad. but that pet heal while down is crazy fast heal

The pet rez is fine actually. If you take care of the pet, or get in on the stomp before the pet can rez, it’s not really an issue. Plus it’s on a 20 sec CD before it can be used. If you can’t stomp a ranger within 20 sec. of downing them, something is wrong.

Also if the pet is downed, using “lick wounds” (the pet rez skill) revives the pet before it comes to heal you. But it can still be knocked back/immobilized/feared/etc. to keep it away from the ranger while he bleeds out, also giving you more time to get the stomp.

When I do play ranger, I rarely get the chance to even use “Lick Wounds” as I am usually stomped well before the skill becomes active. And if I do, I even more rarely get back up as my pet is CC’d or I get stomped before rez.

All in all though, ranger is not really OP, has a bunch of counters that can render its most powerful burst useless, and focuses ALOT on positioning to be effective.

in comparison to other classes down skills i think its much better

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Posted by: Domino.1359

Domino.1359

Lol, go home OP. L2P.

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Posted by: twhite.9310

twhite.9310

Thanks for my daily forum post giggle. Rangers aren’t Overpowered and do not need to be nerfed.

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Posted by: pdavis.8031

pdavis.8031

I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

TL:DR mostly, but I do think the pet regen while downed is a bit out of hand and OP. I think the pet can regen whether its alive or dead.

Maybe if the pets dead, and it can’t regen when the ranger is downed, it wouldn’t be so bad. but that pet heal while down is crazy fast heal

The pet rez is fine actually. If you take care of the pet, or get in on the stomp before the pet can rez, it’s not really an issue. Plus it’s on a 20 sec CD before it can be used. If you can’t stomp a ranger within 20 sec. of downing them, something is wrong.

Also if the pet is downed, using “lick wounds” (the pet rez skill) revives the pet before it comes to heal you. But it can still be knocked back/immobilized/feared/etc. to keep it away from the ranger while he bleeds out, also giving you more time to get the stomp.

When I do play ranger, I rarely get the chance to even use “Lick Wounds” as I am usually stomped well before the skill becomes active. And if I do, I even more rarely get back up as my pet is CC’d or I get stomped before rez.

All in all though, ranger is not really OP, has a bunch of counters that can render its most powerful burst useless, and focuses ALOT on positioning to be effective.

in comparison to other classes down skills i think its much better

True, but that doesn’t mean that it’s OP.

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Posted by: Novuake.2691

Novuake.2691

LB2 is OP, the rest of their kit is actually pretty underpowered.

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Posted by: tom.7468

tom.7468

Its just easymode. Im feeling bad when im playing this because its so easy i would say its cheesiest build after minnion master If you learn to use terrain to you’re advantage , kite you’re enemy and snipe the targets you’re party mark its really strong. Its doing better on maps with less structures blocking you’re line of sight. I got champion hunter from sniping players with longbow using sword/dagger on swap its not a joke.

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Posted by: Eurantien.4632

Eurantien.4632

This is a question that can only be answered by first asking, who does Anet wish to balance for? The reason I say this is because ranger is a relatively low skill floor class that can be INCREDIBLY effective when it’s two new players facing each other. It can do good damage from range or be almost unkillable with close quarter conditions all while this AI that uses its skills on its own is hitting surprisingly hard. That being said, ranger has a skill ceiling just as high as any class. We flash forward to the top tier and all of a sudden ranger goes from being super good to non-existent. Players learn how to stand behind terrain and how to dodge so they don’t eat rapid fire after rapid fire. They learn how to cleanse conditions at the right times and how to time their skills at the end of the ranger evades that leave them vulnerable during the after-cast. They learn how to dodge the pet skills and how to keep moving so the pet autos go from landing 18/20 to 1/20. All of a sudden, the ranger is at a disadvantage and is required to take his play to a whole other level that he didn’t have to before. The ranger has to learn to master his terrain, be in places that his opponent can’t get to easily. The ranger has to learn to skill cancel his pet in order to guarantee his CC lands. He has to learn when to use his pets and when to use EVERY cool down efficiently because if he doesn’t, he will lose the fight. When in a 2 v 2 the ranger can’t just AoE cleave both people on the node, the ranger has to swap target over and over and over to interrupt that guy, damage this guy, pet cc the other guy. There is a reason there aren’t rangers at top tier.

So, is ranger overpowered? Are you a noob? Yes? Then yes. Probably everything is overpowered then.

Is ranger overpowered? Are you good at this game? Yes? Then no, you might need to learn to be better.

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Posted by: Jaxom.7310

Jaxom.7310

I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

TL:DR mostly, but I do think the pet regen while downed is a bit out of hand and OP. I think the pet can regen whether its alive or dead.

Maybe if the pets dead, and it can’t regen when the ranger is downed, it wouldn’t be so bad. but that pet heal while down is crazy fast heal

The pet rez is fine actually. If you take care of the pet, or get in on the stomp before the pet can rez, it’s not really an issue. Plus it’s on a 20 sec CD before it can be used. If you can’t stomp a ranger within 20 sec. of downing them, something is wrong.

Also if the pet is downed, using “lick wounds” (the pet rez skill) revives the pet before it comes to heal you. But it can still be knocked back/immobilized/feared/etc. to keep it away from the ranger while he bleeds out, also giving you more time to get the stomp.

When I do play ranger, I rarely get the chance to even use “Lick Wounds” as I am usually stomped well before the skill becomes active. And if I do, I even more rarely get back up as my pet is CC’d or I get stomped before rez.

All in all though, ranger is not really OP, has a bunch of counters that can render its most powerful burst useless, and focuses ALOT on positioning to be effective.

in comparison to other classes down skills i think its much better

True, but that doesn’t mean that it’s OP.

Fair enough, i can agree w/ that

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

Im feeling bad when im playing this because its so easy i would say its cheesiest build after minnion master

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Posted by: runeblade.7514

runeblade.7514

If you think Ranger is OP, play it.

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Posted by: oneply.9586

oneply.9586

Its just easymode. Im feeling bad when im playing this because its so easy i would say its cheesiest build after minnion master If you learn to use terrain to you’re advantage , kite you’re enemy and snipe the targets you’re party mark its really strong. Its doing better on maps with less structures blocking you’re line of sight. I got champion hunter from sniping players with longbow using sword/dagger on swap its not a joke.

s/d is very very easy to counter, especially when that person doesnt now how to manage the animation locks.

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

Its just easymode. Im feeling bad when im playing this because its so easy i would say its cheesiest build after minnion master If you learn to use terrain to you’re advantage , kite you’re enemy and snipe the targets you’re party mark its really strong. Its doing better on maps with less structures blocking you’re line of sight. I got champion hunter from sniping players with longbow using sword/dagger on swap its not a joke.

s/d is very very easy to counter, especially when that person doesnt now how to manage the animation locks.

Auto attack chain is very repetitive and obvious, slash slash leap.

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Posted by: uberkingkong.8041

uberkingkong.8041

You must be talking about rapid fire.
All you do is block for 2 seconds and there goes that attack.
I love having good rangers on my team, because it makes me worry less about those tanky kitten hp warriors eles and engineers.
I’ll kittening own all those necros thieves, mesmers for you, just take out those tanky motherkitteners for me is all I ask.

kittening warriors all I see is 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
kittening eles all I see is hp goes down, and comes back up constantly, goes down to 60%, back to full hp.
kittening engineers, get them to 70%, something happens I’m stuck, I get them to 40%, something happens I’m stuck again, they get back to 80%, I get them to 70% something happens I’m stuck, get them to 20%, he runs in circles and uses terrain and makes me get stuck again and has too much utilities to reset himself and back to 80% hp again.

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

You must be talking about rapid fire.
All you do is block for 2 seconds and there goes that attack.
I love having good rangers on my team, because it makes me worry less about those tanky kitten hp warriors eles and engineers.
I’ll kittening own all those necros thieves, mesmers for you, just take out those tanky motherkitteners for me is all I ask.

kittening warriors all I see is 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
kittening eles all I see is hp goes down, and comes back up constantly, goes down to 60%, back to full hp.
kittening engineers, get them to 70%, something happens I’m stuck, I get them to 40%, something happens I’m stuck again, they get back to 80%, I get them to 70% something happens I’m stuck, get them to 20%, he runs in circles and uses terrain and makes me get stuck again and has too much utilities to reset himself and back to 80% hp again.

You appear to have a rather unhealthy obsession with kittens. You should see someone about that.

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Posted by: SobeSoul.6910

SobeSoul.6910

I don’t think rangers should be nerfed. However, I do feel like rangers are polarized and need to be worked on to make them more well rounded instead of one trick ponies that they are currently.

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Posted by: Aomine.5012

Aomine.5012

Poor ranger always got unnecessary nerf because of QQers like the OP.
They already got nerfed at least 3 times. (SB nerf, Spirit nerf, Pet nerf)
What more can you ask?

Of course there’s some recent buff that brings ranger back to scene, but it’s still not quite comparable to how strong Celestial Ele, War, and condition Engineer are.

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Posted by: Random Weird Guy.3528

Random Weird Guy.3528

I don’t think rangers should be nerfed. However, I do feel like rangers are polarized and need to be worked on to make them more well rounded instead of one trick ponies that they are currently.

It’s possible, just hardly anyone ever runs it. Dump 6 points into wilderness survival and/or nature magic, play about with utilities and have you a nice hybrid build. I see it occasionally in 1v1 servers.

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Posted by: oneply.9586

oneply.9586

I don’t think rangers should be nerfed. However, I do feel like rangers are polarized and need to be worked on to make them more well rounded instead of one trick ponies that they are currently.

It’s possible, just hardly anyone ever runs it. Dump 6 points into wilderness survival and/or nature magic, play about with utilities and have you a nice hybrid build. I see it occasionally in 1v1 servers.

hybird builds are great for 1v1, but as soon as you have a team or they have a team its useless in comparison.

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Posted by: mulzi.8273

mulzi.8273

the real problem with rangers, and RF specifically, is the fact that unranked is littered with them..usually 2+ per team. Thats what makes them seem over powered.

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Posted by: Exedore.6320

Exedore.6320

You can’t only consider balance for the very top players. What the average player experiences should be taken into consideration as well. For the average player, longbow ranger is extremely frustrating to play against, mostly because of Rapid Fire and their long range. Though condi rangers with entangle can also be frustrating. So yes, I agree that ranger needs to change, but in doing so it needs to be made more viable at the top and less of a one-trick-pony for the general player.

Kirrena Rosenkreutz

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Posted by: Valentin.2073

Valentin.2073

Let’s look back at how rangers were OP as kitten.

Anet, we’ve suffered enough. It’s already time to buff the hell out of us.

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Posted by: Morwath.9817

Morwath.9817

You can’t only consider balance for the very top players. What the average player experiences should be taken into consideration as well. For the average player, longbow ranger is extremely frustrating to play against, mostly because of Rapid Fire and their long range. Though condi rangers with entangle can also be frustrating. So yes, I agree that ranger needs to change, but in doing so it needs to be made more viable at the top and less of a one-trick-pony for the general player.

For average player Thieves and Mesmers are for sure more ‘frustrating’ since they deal more dmg out of nowhere and stealth/port away after. So you suggest to nerf Thieves and Mesmers?

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

Zenos Osgorma.2936

Two Power rangers working together to time both Rf’s before the target notices just burns hp so you have to spot them before they spot you, its pvp so make sure you have your graphical Line of sight on max , click on the incomming targets check its class if its a ranger get ready for the Range opening.

I had two power rangers hunting me down on henge the other day while i was home defending with our guild group , all i did was dodge>evade+f2 soimoth> pick up feathers > dodge towards the dual rangers blinded both of them > planted two traps and used my Carrion+krait runes RAO 6,20,6 build to trigger fury and Bursted them down with Condis because they kitten trigged Signet of stone , then i just planted traps again after repeating the Defence cycle above.

get the jump on them and use condis or blinds and you won.

just don’t let them get the jump on you , since rangers can’t sneak up on you keep a eye out.

and these Rf kittens can’t Even hurt Kittens.

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Posted by: Zero Day.2594

Zero Day.2594

I swear, there seems to be a thread for each class that says they are overpowered.

Every class is OP to the scrub that dies to it.

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Posted by: Wintersnight.3061

Wintersnight.3061

I think that sums it all…
The Ranger does it all, including crits down a whole life bubble half way through the map… maybe someone should have done something by now…
It seems logic that a profession that is very (i think this is a complete understatement) good from afar should be mediocre or bad at cac, well no, it hits as hard remove all conditions and more. On top of it, it gets stability for some crazy long time, gets most of the boons and puts down all (or almost) conditions. And if that was not enough, when you are 1vs1 on the ground cause of a close fight, you cannot kill him/her cause of the pet regen… Sure they are killable sometimes, but maybe too much is just too much and someone should say something.
Most of the maps are widely open and you can just get spanked (or at least mid life) from a ranger before even getting to him/her.
Personally, I think this is enough and things should change, I am not enjoying this anymore, sure the regen of the war and the elem is over powered but at least you get to survive and play.
Thank you for doing something about this.

This is completely true. The Abjured asked me 5 times to be on their team so they could enjoy my LEET Power Ranger dominance. I said no, because they only play boring, non-OP Cele DDs and kitten like that. Their scrubs and not good enough to keep up with my OP greatness.

TCG even asked me to move across the pond to join their team…begged me in fact. Alas, I said no because I’m too lazy to move over there. And besides…I could most likely win EU from over here….the range on my Ranger is just that good.

DoD …well….they don’t have any popular/skillful players so no way.

The Dankening I turned down because I don’t have time time to Danken anymore, so they picked up Euratien, the only other Power Ranger in the game. And they now have moved up to 2nd place every week….obviously carried by Eura. He just tells them to sit in mid and #2s ( I mean that both ways) all over the Mid point and Far point at the same time.

Since these teams are playing for real money, they know that the Power Ranger is key to their victory and making money in the game….that is why they are so desperate to have either Eura or Me, the greatest Who in Whoville to play on their team.

Maybe someone else can learn Power Ranger…I heard ROM after finding out I wouldn’t play with them is starting to try out Power Ranger so his team can findly win a match.

Cindy Lou Who, Retired Ranger
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Posted by: Archon.6480

Archon.6480

Whew, I thought you were going to complain about our recent stealth buff. Thankfully, this is more about LB spike. I do believe the most competitive ranger builds have less to do with LB and more to do with other… Things.

I personally enjoy it when I see the enemy has a spiky LB ranger. My enjoyment goes down when I see they are using celestial, drops to concern when they are using conditions, turns to worry when I see spirits.

I smile inside when I see them using Sentinel Ammy.

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Posted by: Gabriell.4856

Gabriell.4856

Lol, go home OP. L2P.

Oh really. So Hail Mary needs to L2P vs Dankening’s LB ranger?