Guild Wars 2

Hello.

Ive seen 3/4 necro and occasial brokenant too strong posts, and ofc warri thief whines…

BUT..

pure conquest wise, these are the pillars of bacteria.

No power class can touch them, and the unlimited reset potential makes bfor boring gameplay. thoughts?

CC.

Have fun again.

Maby because necro is so much more OP and everyone plays them. And the scrapper is OP thread is going for full in the engineer section.

Maybe bc ppl gave up. Also they wasnt stackes in esl so everyone focus on rev now and reaper due to their numbers in ranked.

Why would there be many posts on engi and druid when those are the 4th and 5th best classes in PvP? Rev, necro, and bunker ele are 1-3 in whichever order you want.

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Maby because necro is so much more OP and everyone plays them. And the scrapper is OP thread is going for full in the engineer section.

I’ve beaten more necroes than engis though, I only beat two engis this season one on druid (of course) and one on tempest.

style.6173:

Why would there be many posts on engi and druid when those are the 4th and 5th best classes in PvP? Rev, necro, and bunker ele are 1-3 in whichever order you want.

Thats what im asking…

Necor and rev are top2 without a doubt…But no matter how stronger necro is, a rev is still the better one to be stacked cz necro has simply too many weaknesses, while rev is the braindead dodger.

Same for ele, it heals for a ton more, but its rezz power is way weaker and its not preferd to be in 1v1.

Meanwhile
Scrapper and druid cover 80% of the support needs you can wish for in a 2v2, better rezzpower,
while they want 1v1s and can live 2v1s way longer.

Tldr
3 druid 2 scraper beats 3 necro 2 eles,
and they do it with the good old boring outstalling….so why are pitchforks raised against necro ?

Flumek.9043:

style.6173:

Why would there be many posts on engi and druid when those are the 4th and 5th best classes in PvP? Rev, necro, and bunker ele are 1-3 in whichever order you want.

Thats what im asking…

Necor and rev are top2 without a doubt…But no matter how stronger necro is, a rev is still the better one to be stacked cz necro has simply too many weaknesses, while rev is the braindead dodger.

Same for ele, it heals for a ton more, but its rezz power is way weaker and its not preferd to be in 1v1.

Meanwhile
Scrapper and druid cover 80% of the support needs you can wish for in a 2v2, better rezzpower,
while they want 1v1s and can live 2v1s way longer.

Tldr
3 druid 2 scraper beats 3 necro 2 eles,
and they do it with the good old boring outstalling….so why are pitchforks raised against necro ?

My man

Flumek.9043:

style.6173:

Why would there be many posts on engi and druid when those are the 4th and 5th best classes in PvP? Rev, necro, and bunker ele are 1-3 in whichever order you want.

Thats what im asking…

Necor and rev are top2 without a doubt…But no matter how stronger necro is, a rev is still the better one to be stacked cz necro has simply too many weaknesses, while rev is the braindead dodger.

Same for ele, it heals for a ton more, but its rezz power is way weaker and its not preferd to be in 1v1.

Meanwhile
Scrapper and druid cover 80% of the support needs you can wish for in a 2v2, better rezzpower,
while they want 1v1s and can live 2v1s way longer.

Tldr
3 druid 2 scraper beats 3 necro 2 eles,
and they do it with the good old boring outstalling….so why are pitchforks raised against necro ?

Is that the reason why there is only 1 druid in the finals and was useless other than ressing?

Necro is the only class you consistently see teams have 3-4 of them and still not only win, but dominate. Scrapper and druid are whatever…. Honestly druid wouldn’t be so bad if it were not for search and rescue.

We better complain about Revs, Scrappers and Druids then or else Reapers will be nerfed into the ground and the rest will be buffed.

Druid doesnt seem OP to me, scrapper could use some shaving along with rev, and necro. No buffs needed for any class. (minus maybe warrior)

People want to complain about them, but they got CCed

well someone said Druid is OP
inb4 anet nerfs us into oblivion again lol
What will it be this time? More Pet Nerfs? More Shortbow Nerfs? More WHAO Nerfs? or More Trait Removal/ relocation to lines that can not synergies.

StickerHappy.8052:

Is that the reason why there is only 1 druid in the finals and was useless other than ressing?

the roles they take are almost identical, one is just preffered in the toptop finals level. Same as why for dmg teams take 2 power or even condi revs over carrying 2 necros.

Wolfey.3407:

well someone said Druid is OP
inb4 anet nerfs us into oblivion again lol
What will it be this time? More Pet Nerfs? More Shortbow Nerfs? More WHAO Nerfs? or More Trait Removal/ relocation to lines that can not synergies.

Necro and rev are crazy dmg dealers
Druid and scrapper are crazy supporters AND stallers

Theyre all 4 sticking out 2 tiers above everything else and id love for anet tomstop powercreeping and go shaving.

Whats bothering me, is that theres majorly complains about the first two only

Cause people hate dying to condis more than anything in this game. Perhaps sans DH traps that is.

Flumek.9043:

Wolfey.3407:

well someone said Druid is OP
inb4 anet nerfs us into oblivion again lol
What will it be this time? More Pet Nerfs? More Shortbow Nerfs? More WHAO Nerfs? or More Trait Removal/ relocation to lines that can not synergies.

Necro and rev are crazy dmg dealers
Druid and scrapper are crazy supporters AND stallers

Theyre all 4 sticking out 2 tiers above everything else and id love for anet tomstop powercreeping and go shaving.

Whats bothering me, is that theres majorly complains about the first two only

You’ve clearly never met a bunker ele which is better than both druid and scrapper at team support + holding a point.

Kuya.6495:

Cause people hate dying to condis more than anything in this game. Perhaps sans DH traps that is.

Pretty much. I’m not defending Reapers, I’m actually a bit disappointed with the direction of “fixing” necromancers that they took, however, yes. People HATE seeing their condition bar fill up.

Next to that, traps are just super obvious and one of the few things in the midst of all the chaos that really sticks out. They bring notice to themselves, so when you hit it, you know and it probably kittenes you off.

Scrappers/Druids in my opinion are sort of subtle. They’re super strong, especially Scrapper, but frankly, outside of maybe Hammer 5, they’re just not flashy enough to pull the same kind of hate. They’re also not as gimmicky-one shot, which is another thing that gets under peoples’ skin. (See: Traps) Hell, some of the skills on Scrapper have garbage animations, such as Acid Bomb’s lingering effect.

There’s sort of two types of balance stances (in my eyes). There’s Low-Tier balance, which focuses on gimmicks such as one-shots, high CC, “unkillable” builds, and condition stacking. They tend to focus on specific skills and skills that stand out more tend to get more focus.

Then there’s High-Tier balance based on an overall package/toolset, position in teams, total performance and effectiveness (ability to do something consistently). Much of this doesn’t really pass through a lot of people’s minds, especially if they only ever solo-que (not hating on solo quers).

Sometimes they cross boundaries, like Necromancer which has decent placement and effectiveness and a niche that adds to a team’s overall kit and at the same time fills a condition bar and freaks people out with a second life bar.

Other things, like Engineer, don’t stick out as much because they’re not one shotting you like 3 DH traps on a point might. They get some muttering about being “too sustainable”, but people don’t seem to have the same amount of angst against something that survive too well as they do something that kills too well. The sense of failure is much greater when you die rather than watching a victim squirm away (just to pop back a moment later with the upper hand).

I just don’t understand why slick shoes isn’t effected by stability. On my Rev, I can dodge, get stab, but still get knocked down from slick shoes, and yes, I was watching my stacks. They were still on me as I was kitten first on the ground.

Agemnon.4608:

EdgarMTanaka.7291:

Maby because necro is so much more OP and everyone plays them. And the scrapper is OP thread is going for full in the engineer section.

I’ve beaten more necroes than engis though, I only beat two engis this season one on druid (of course) and one on tempest.

I havent played much this season but I have beaten over 30-40 Necroes this season and I have beaten around 3-5 engie/Scrappers this season but I think I have only fought about 8 scrappers this season.

Also I main scrapper(Not meta build) so I may be corrupted :P But for me I have the most problems with Necroes and Revenants, all other classes I can beat with ease (if I am not up against realy good players).

On the other hand when I fight any class 1vs1 I mostly win as it is easier to predict the fighting pattern but once in a team fight a necro can spew all AoE conditions all over and well bb game over. And if there are 2 or 3 Necroes it is like fighting 3 DH trappers but you can not predict, block or avoid the AoEs.

BTW Druids OP? I think they are just mostly cowards as they where when they where the usuall LB rangers…
Ranger – Pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pewpew.
Me- “Reflect”
Ranger – Pewpewpepwepwewpewewpewepwepwepwew.
Ranger – dies.
Ranger – ‘Hey OP reflect skills!’

If they are good players they are hard to kill but not impossible, Eles with healing spec on the other hand is impossible to kill and can heal like crazy and will require 2-3 players to kill, if they had a good rez skill like rangers have or like Mesmers had last season then they would have been the new bunker meta.

(I havent played condition damage build during this season so I don’t know if Eles goes down easy to conditions…)

Anomaly.7612:

I just don’t understand why slick shoes isn’t effected by stability. On my Rev, I can dodge, get stab, but still get knocked down from slick shoes, and yes, I was watching my stacks. They were still on me as I was kitten first on the ground.

I don’t use slickshoes so I don’t know but that is a skill that I really want Anet to go through. I don’t think it is OP in a way but there are things that bugs me…

As you said sometimes it feels like stab isn’t helping, there is no tell when the skill is deployed an engie can just deploy it right under you and studdenly you are stuck in one spot for a pretty long time, complaining about DH elite skill? Well IMO this is worse, the only difference is that you can see the slickshoes puddles.